Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What happened to the infrae.subversion and py eggs?

2008-04-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Reinout van Rees wrote:
 Wichert Akkerman schreef:
 Previously Reinout van Rees wrote:
 Tres Seaver schreef:
 Daniel Nouri wrote:
 1.0dev-r27844 seems to be gone from PyPI.
 Such a version should *never* have been released to PyPI (any egg /
 source dist with an SVN revision number in its filename is *not*
 suitable for sharing with the wider world).
 I've made it a habit *not* to enable the option in setup.cfg that adds 
 those svn revision numbers to the version. It is enabled by default in 
 all/most of the ZopeSkel-generated packages that I use.
 
 I recently started adding that option again for some of my projects. For
 a few frequently updated sites I do a lot of updates  installs without
 making full releases and it is extremely convenient to be able to see
 which exact revision number I'm currently using.
 
 Those are probably private and not on pypi, I guess? Or do you do that 
 for a few pypi'ed packages, too? I basically don't trust myself enough 
 to enable it for public packages :-)

I do that frequently for packages which are also on pypi. We do it for
all plone.* and plone.app.* packages for example. I just don't upload
those dev revisions to pypi. 

Wichert.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What happened to the infrae.subversion and py eggs?

2008-04-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Reinout van Rees wrote:
 Tres Seaver schreef:
 Daniel Nouri wrote:
 1.0dev-r27844 seems to be gone from PyPI.
 
 Such a version should *never* have been released to PyPI (any egg /
 source dist with an SVN revision number in its filename is *not*
 suitable for sharing with the wider world).
 
 I've made it a habit *not* to enable the option in setup.cfg that adds 
 those svn revision numbers to the version. It is enabled by default in 
 all/most of the ZopeSkel-generated packages that I use.

I recently started adding that option again for some of my projects. For
a few frequently updated sites I do a lot of updates  installs without
making full releases and it is extremely convenient to be able to see
which exact revision number I'm currently using.

Wichert.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: What happened to the infrae.subversion and py eggs?

2008-04-08 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 8. April 2008 21:39:14 -0400 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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1.0dev-r27844 seems to be gone from PyPI.


Such a version should *never* have been released to PyPI (any egg /
source dist with an SVN revision number in its filename is *not*
suitable for sharing with the wider world).  Pushing such distributions
out to PyPI, rather than sharing them in a more restricted / private
location, induces pain on the wrong parties (those who innocently rely
on PiPI, rather than those perpetrating the risky behavior).


Amen. Lots of people are misusing PyPI right now for uploading their broken 
packages: lots of dev-packages in some weird state, packages without 
metadata, packages without URL, packages with descriptions..that's a pretty 
big pain in the *** right now. I currently working on the buildout 
infrastructure for three of our major Zope projects (which lots of 
externals dependencies) and I am sometimes really annoyed that stuffs works 
some day and not the other day because packages appearently come and go.





I'm CCing Sylvain who I
believe made the last release.  Maybe we can even convince him to make a
proper release, not an SVN snapshot. :-)

Of course, we should also make sure that the latest version works
properly with its pinned py dependency.


Amen!


Also Amen on this.

Andreas

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