Re: [Zope3-dev] Cleaning up dependencies for Zope 3.4 eggs

2007-04-09 Thread Jim Fulton


On Apr 5, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Christian Theune wrote:


Hi,

we're starting work on an application that we're going to use Zope 3.4
for and that I'd like to base on the eggs. That should give me the
chance to clean up some of the egg dependencies.


Cool.


First thing that I found: ZODB 3.4 eggs just require


Zope 3.4 I assume.



ZODB3, but don't
state a version. This should currently be "ZODB3>3.7" and would  
move to

"ZODB3>=3.8" in the future, right?


Why?  Unless they depend on a particular feature, such as Blobs. I  
see no reason to be specific.


BTW, there are development releases of ZODB3 3.8 on download.zope.org.

Jim

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Cleaning up dependencies for Zope 3.4 eggs

2007-04-09 Thread Jim Fulton

Done.

Jim

On Apr 9, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Baiju M wrote:


On 4/9/07, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Apr 6, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

> Fred Drake wrote:
>> On 4/5/07, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Since we almost eggified all packages under zope.app namespace,
>>> should we keep the all-in-one zope.app egg ?
>> I've been making it a point to not depend on the zope.app egg;
>> depending on it brings in things I don't want, and that's what  
we're

>> trying to get away from in the first place.
>
> Right. The current zope.app egg also includes never-ever released
> things. It's simply the Zope3/src/zope/app directory from svn
> (which still has some old, never used and probably dangerous stuff
> in it).
>
>> I don't know that unpublishing the already-published versions is
>> needed; they can sit unused forever, and that won't break anything
>> for
>> the people who choose to depend on it.
>
> Apart from the fact that we should clean out the Zope3/src/zope/app
> directory in svn, we should also delete all traces of the zope.app
> egg. As mentioned, it contains unreleased stuff and is therefore
> not production or release material. Keeping it around would be
> misleading.

+1


I removed the cheeseshop entry and also removed it from svn.  Please
remove it from downnload.zope.org/distribution .

Regards,
Baiju M
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Cleaning up dependencies for Zope 3.4 eggs

2007-04-09 Thread Baiju M

On 4/9/07, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Apr 6, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

> Fred Drake wrote:
>> On 4/5/07, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Since we almost eggified all packages under zope.app namespace,
>>> should we keep the all-in-one zope.app egg ?
>> I've been making it a point to not depend on the zope.app egg;
>> depending on it brings in things I don't want, and that's what we're
>> trying to get away from in the first place.
>
> Right. The current zope.app egg also includes never-ever released
> things. It's simply the Zope3/src/zope/app directory from svn
> (which still has some old, never used and probably dangerous stuff
> in it).
>
>> I don't know that unpublishing the already-published versions is
>> needed; they can sit unused forever, and that won't break anything
>> for
>> the people who choose to depend on it.
>
> Apart from the fact that we should clean out the Zope3/src/zope/app
> directory in svn, we should also delete all traces of the zope.app
> egg. As mentioned, it contains unreleased stuff and is therefore
> not production or release material. Keeping it around would be
> misleading.

+1


I removed the cheeseshop entry and also removed it from svn.  Please
remove it from downnload.zope.org/distribution .

Regards,
Baiju M
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Cleaning up dependencies for Zope 3.4 eggs

2007-04-09 Thread Jim Fulton


On Apr 6, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:


Fred Drake wrote:

On 4/5/07, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Since we almost eggified all packages under zope.app namespace,
should we keep the all-in-one zope.app egg ?

I've been making it a point to not depend on the zope.app egg;
depending on it brings in things I don't want, and that's what we're
trying to get away from in the first place.


Right. The current zope.app egg also includes never-ever released  
things. It's simply the Zope3/src/zope/app directory from svn  
(which still has some old, never used and probably dangerous stuff  
in it).



I don't know that unpublishing the already-published versions is
needed; they can sit unused forever, and that won't break anything  
for

the people who choose to depend on it.


Apart from the fact that we should clean out the Zope3/src/zope/app  
directory in svn, we should also delete all traces of the zope.app  
egg. As mentioned, it contains unreleased stuff and is therefore  
not production or release material. Keeping it around would be  
misleading.


+1

Jim

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