Re: [Zope3-Users] zc.buildout with Zope 2
Martin Aspeli wrote: ... This may not be the right place for this question, but I'm wondering if anyone has experience or examples using zc.buildout with Zope 2. I don't. I'm using the immediate predecessor of zc.buildout for zope Zope 2 projects though. It seems a useful solution and one that will increase in importance, though so far I've not yet fully grasped what it does or how I use it in my brief encounters with it. buildouts are about automating application assembly and installation. They are somewhat like make in that regard, although they tend to work at a higher level. (In fact, our earlier buildouts were built using make.) A secondary benefit of zc.buildout is that it provides tools for leveraging eggs in a much more controlled way that is allowed by easy_install. This will be helpful to Zope 2 in the future especially as Zope 3 is split into eggs. I'm wondering whether it is something I should pursue further in the context of Plone development (targeting primarily Zope 2.10 for now), but I don't know if it's even relevant to that platform or if this is unchartered territory. Suggestions? The predecessors of zc.buildout have been used for Zope 2 applications for several years at ZC. BTW, if you want to learn more about zc.buildout, then a good way would be to attend the minitutorial I'll be giving at PyCon nect month: http://us.pycon.org/TX2007/TutorialsAM#AM7 Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] zc.buildout with Zope 2
Jim Fulton wrote: This may not be the right place for this question, but I'm wondering if anyone has experience or examples using zc.buildout with Zope 2. I don't. I'm using the immediate predecessor of zc.buildout for zope Zope 2 projects though. Is this internal only? It seems a useful solution and one that will increase in importance, though so far I've not yet fully grasped what it does or how I use it in my brief encounters with it. buildouts are about automating application assembly and installation. They are somewhat like make in that regard, although they tend to work at a higher level. (In fact, our earlier buildouts were built using make.) A secondary benefit of zc.buildout is that it provides tools for leveraging eggs in a much more controlled way that is allowed by easy_install. This will be helpful to Zope 2 in the future especially as Zope 3 is split into eggs. Would it be helpful at the moment as well? Or are there too many rough edges in terms of lacking egg-ification $SOFTWARE_HOMEs and $INSTANCE_HOMEs that make it non-trivial to use this in Zope 2 projects? BTW, if you want to learn more about zc.buildout, then a good way would be to attend the minitutorial I'll be giving at PyCon nect month: http://us.pycon.org/TX2007/TutorialsAM#AM7 Bit far for me to travel, but good luck :) Martin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/zc.buildout-with-Zope-2-tf2962956.html#a8297926 Sent from the Zope3 - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] zc.buildout with Zope 2
Martin Aspeli wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: This may not be the right place for this question, but I'm wondering if anyone has experience or examples using zc.buildout with Zope 2. I don't. I'm using the immediate predecessor of zc.buildout for zope Zope 2 projects though. Is this internal only? No, we put a version in the sandbox (http://svn.zope.org/Sandbox/zc/buildout/trunk/) a little over a year ago, and I could update that version if you want, but I doubt you will; it is woefully under-documented and not that easy to get into. You'd probably be better off digging into zc.buildout. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
[Zope3-Users] zc.buildout with Zope 2
Hi guys, This may not be the right place for this question, but I'm wondering if anyone has experience or examples using zc.buildout with Zope 2. It seems a useful solution and one that will increase in importance, though so far I've not yet fully grasped what it does or how I use it in my brief encounters with it. I'm wondering whether it is something I should pursue further in the context of Plone development (targeting primarily Zope 2.10 for now), but I don't know if it's even relevant to that platform or if this is unchartered territory. Suggestions? Martin ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users