It's an act of balancing, really.
--
within this context, I don't think that things benefit from micro-loop
sampling, or production decisions made with DJing in mind. DJ sets just
don't seem to be the series of little trips that they used to be.
maybe I'm just used to it all.
-
Hmmm.
Why no license fee waiver? Was it even an issue? Seems unlikely the
ISP/website would even be anywhere near being sued for airing the
tracks.
Odd.
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From: J.C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:08 AM
To: 313 Mailing List
Subject: Re:
On 8 Sep 2008, at 10:18, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Hmmm.
Why no license fee waiver? Was it even an issue? Seems unlikely the
ISP/website would even be anywhere near being sued for airing the
tracks.
Odd.
They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and they do
close people down
Thanks Andy, always good to hear Mike.
m
On 7 Sep 2008, at 22:56, Andy Mitchell wrote:
Mad Mike was in New Zealand with UR's DJ Skurge last week to do some
community work with at risk youth, including a lunchtime show for high
school kids!
Mike was interviewed on state-owned broadcaster
Did anyone see Norm Talley, Shake, and Derrick May this weekend?
Sadly, I slept through it all...I blame motherhood :)
Denise
--
Denise MM Dalphond
PhD Candidate
Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology
Indiana University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
Hello Chicago-area 313 friends!
Our JACKSON residency is back full force this month and we've packed a
monster bill this time. Very special guests include DAEDELUS (Los
Angeles), who is touring the world in support of his brand new NINJA
TUNE full-length album. Also, on the double headlining
On Sep 7, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Kowalsky wrote:
Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich compulsive
knob twister is doing something creative these days, in this list
opinion?
Surgeon.
On 8 Sep 2008, at 15:42, Garrett McGrath wrote:
On Sep 7, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Kowalsky wrote:
Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich compulsive
knob twister is doing something creative these days, in this list
opinion?
Surgeon.
Rob Hall, Regis, Kraftwerk, Kero, James
Do you really think that Kraftwerk fits into this? Why?
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:29 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
On 8 Sep 2008, at 15:42, Garrett McGrath wrote:
On Sep 7, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Kowalsky wrote:
Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich compulsive
knob twister is doing
On 8 Sep 2008, at 17:40, Kowalsky wrote:
Do you really think that Kraftwerk fits into this? Why?
Laptops, Controllers, 3 Octave keyboard no different to what most
people use.
m
I know that.
But they're playing their own music, not just spinning loops/djing.
Kw
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
On 8 Sep 2008, at 17:40, Kowalsky wrote:
Do you really think that Kraftwerk fits into this? Why?
Laptops, Controllers, 3 Octave keyboard no different to what
On 8 Sep 2008, at 17:51, Kowalsky wrote:
I know that.
But they're playing their own music, not just spinning loops/djing.
Most of the artist I listed play their own music or appear live as
well as DJing - what's the difference when you boil it all down really?
m
There's no big difference, except for Kraftwerk, don't you think?
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
On 8 Sep 2008, at 17:51, Kowalsky wrote:
I know that.
But they're playing their own music, not just spinning loops/djing.
Most of the artist I listed play their own music or
On 8 Sep 2008, at 18:06, Kowalsky wrote:
There's no big difference, except for Kraftwerk, don't you think?
Not really, they've moved with the times just like all the people
listed.
m
Maybe i'm not being totally clear: they play their songs, in the same
form they were once recorded, with minor changes here and there. They
don't re-arrange the songs in a freeform knob twisting style. Their
shows, in a tour, have a script they follow – what means that a show
in paris will
On 8 Sep 2008, at 18:15, Kowalsky wrote:
Maybe i'm not being totally clear: they play their songs, in the
same form they were once recorded, with minor changes here and
there. They don't re-arrange the songs in a freeform knob twisting
style. Their shows, in a tour, have a script they
Sorry to intervene and probably get things totally wrong but I think K's point
was not so much who's using laptops and controllers
but who's doing something different with this gear in, say, the way
apparently RH says he is in the vid (haven't had time to watch
it, sorry).
I.e. you watch or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry to intervene and probably get things totally wrong but I think K's point was not so
much who's using laptops and controllers
but who's doing something different with this gear in, say, the way
apparently RH says he is in the vid (haven't had time to watch
it,
Kowalsky wrote:
I agree with you.
But what you're saying now has nothing to do with what i was asking in
first place.
OK, Let me reverse it and as you a question. which DJ do you know who
can do what's possible with 4 decks in Trakor or Ableton?
m
Oh for goodness sake, if this argument bores you why are you trying so hard
to have it?
No one said it had to be different to be great. Doing things this way can be
100% fine. use as little or a much as you need yes,
agreed. On Kraftwerk I thought they were their last live show was the best
Well, hawtin seems to do what's possible. But i didn't like, as i said
previously. Sandrinho, a brazilian DJ/producer, does it quite well.
And he uses a MPC on top of it.
My question was: who does the loop frenzy twisting knobs-o-rama good?
On Sep 8, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
BMG / Ectomorph.
His DJ sets are more like on the fly mashups of Prince, Dan Bell,
Carl Craig, P Funk, Laid Back, Kraftwerk and B-52s.
2 Many DJs wish they could hold a torch to what he does with Live
with their sets.. but thankfully, everything's already sync'ed
within Live.
as for
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, hawtin seems to do what's possible. But i didn't like, as i said
previously. Sandrinho, a brazilian DJ/producer, does it quite well. And he
uses a MPC on top of it.
My question was: who does the loop frenzy twisting
Well put.
I found that all of the tricks he showed in that video lack any sort of
musicality at all.
I'd have rather heard the tracks in their original format on 2
turntables or cd players, mixed well, rather than with the faux
breakdowns.
Chris
-Original Message-
From: Kowalsky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh for goodness sake, if this argument bores you why are you trying so hard
to have it?
Get out of the wrong side of the bed did we?
I don't see why who is using this exciting new technology in an interesting way,
who's getting the most out of this gear is
being
Kowalsky wrote:
Well, hawtin seems to do what's possible. But i didn't like, as i said
previously. Sandrinho, a brazilian DJ/producer, does it quite well.
And he uses a MPC on top of it.
My question was: who does the loop frenzy twisting knobs-o-rama good?
Kero is one of mine favs, Tim Exile
That's a good analogy! I was never very into his sound, but he works
in the same way of operations, looping beats and pieces, but he seems
to achieve better results, be it in the matter of moods or ambiences.
On Sep 8, 2008, at 4:32 PM, Wojtek wrote:
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:23 PM,
me :)
My question was: who does the loop frenzy twisting knobs-o-rama good?
Ronny Pries wrote:
me :)
Another one, but he also uses boxes has to be the fantastic Neil Landtrumm.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/music/connect/2008/artist/neil_landstrumm/?video003#video
m
I see 2 many djs the same way i see girl talk. The worst thing is that
they go to a more demagogic arena thrill. They emulate a rock show by
cutting off the boring parts or the non-top charting tunes and filling
the spaces with all the climax moments an arena rock show would have.
On Sep
Man, Richie Hawtin is 313's third rail.
I don't have anything to add, really, except to say that the best DJ
sets I've seen were done with two turntables and a mixer without
effects. If you play the right records, in the right order, and mix
them right, magic happens. No reason not to experiment
This thing blows on Wednesday - hope to see you Thursday :)
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/08/the_large_hadron_collider.html
http://www.lhc.ac.uk/
m
On Sep 8, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
I don't see why who is using this exciting new technology in an
interesting way, who's getting the most out of this gear is
being viewed as something other than a positive topic and twisted
into something else. I thought the Surgeon answer was
Thankyou for that. Well said, you beat me to the punch.
On Tue, September 9, 2008 2:55 am, kent williams wrote:
Man, Richie Hawtin is 313's third rail.
I don't have anything to add, really, except to say that the best DJ
sets I've seen were done with two turntables and a mixer without
And saying Surgeon proves the point, his art is in the programming not
the way he mixes or what he uses - he twiddles very little.
yeap. save for the fact that now he can play stuff that was probably
previously impossible to match, he's really just playing tracks. his
art is definitely the
'Technolgystolemyvinyl'
On Tue, September 9, 2008 3:52 am, Martin Dust wrote:
And saying Surgeon proves the point, his art is in the programming not
the way he mixes or what he uses - he twiddles very little.
yeap. save for the fact that now he can play stuff that was probably
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'Technolgystolemyvinyl'
OK, lets tip the balance...
Hitler is a M_nus fan!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNY85iAw4b4
m
Why no license fee waiver? Was it even an issue? Seems unlikely the
ISP/website would even be anywhere near being sued for airing the
tracks.
Odd.
They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and they do
close people down for it.
This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's
Now I'm going to have to listen to techno all night at home.
LOL
MEK
P.S. - what movie is this clip originally from? I've just seen so many
versions of this I wouldn't mind seeing the original
Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/08/2008 03:59:46 PM:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can we invoke Godwin's Law now and declare this thread finished? ;-)
Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/08/2008 03:59:46 PM:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'Technolgystolemyvinyl'
OK, lets tip the balance...
Hitler is a M_nus fan!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNY85iAw4b4
m
It's from Downfall, a movie about the last days of Hittler in the
bunker, and some related events.
On Sep 8, 2008, at 6:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now I'm going to have to listen to techno all night at home.
LOL
MEK
P.S. - what movie is this clip originally from? I've just seen so
i rest my case.
On Sep 8, 2008, at 6:19 PM, kent williams wrote:
Can we invoke Godwin's Law now and declare this thread finished? ;-)
Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/08/2008 03:59:46 PM:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'Technolgystolemyvinyl'
OK, lets tip the balance...
Hitler is
Richie is like the Madonna of techno! :-)
On Sep 8, 2008, at 4:55 PM, kent williams wrote:
Man, Richie Hawtin is 313's third rail.
I don't have anything to add, really, except to say that the best DJ
sets I've seen were done with two turntables and a mixer without
effects. If you play the
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Martin Dust wrote:
And saying Surgeon proves the point, his art is in the programming
not the way he mixes or what he uses - he twiddles very little.
yeap. save for the fact that now he can play stuff that was
probably previously impossible to match, he's
They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and they do
close people down for it.
This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's controlled by local
organisation RIANZ not any American organisation. I'm guessing their fees
are equally prohibitive though, because *no-one* offers
If a catastrophic event does take place it's probable that we'll never
feel a thing, just poof.
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This thing blows on Wednesday - hope to see you Thursday :)
hmm, second time today I've discussed or referenced this paper:
Astrophysical implications of hypothetical stable TeV-scale black holes
http://lsag.web.cern.ch/lsag/CERN-PH-TH_2008-025.pdf
Steven B. Giddingsa,1 and Michelangelo L. Manganob,2
a Department of Physics, University of California,
for detroit area listmembers, placid will be making his first detroit
appearance on the 18th at oslo along with kevin reynolds (live) and patrick
russell.
$5, 10pm, 21+
oslo, detroit
There will be no other place like this – to see 313 list heads filling
in like matches in a box!
Wish i could drop by.
Kw
On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:46 PM, /0 wrote:
for detroit area listmembers, placid will be making his first
detroit appearance on the 18th at oslo along with kevin reynolds
I don't know how anyone makes a living in NZ. Even the daily
newspapers don't pay freelancers, crying poor, and won't send you
copies or tear sheets of published work. No wonder everyone worships
Peter Jackson so much - probably being an extra in Lord Of The Rings
is the one way people get
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