FW: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun

2002-11-29 Thread Edwin Houghton
oops I know I'm a little late but I sent this earlier it didn't go thru: my 2c: when I picked up SUN and read a random passage I thought it was going to be really pretentious and I also immediately thought of DJ Spooky's post-structuralist name dropping. the dif. is that where spooky

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2002-11-27 Thread Brendan Nelson
| -Original Message- | From: marc christensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 25 November 2002 22:01 | | And his attitude, which might not be great for hangin' out with, is | perfect for approaching Sun-Ra, and the Martian, or the pre-revealed | Drexciya. Who else besides Dan S. went

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2002-11-27 Thread dave cronin
I pretty much agree that the book is a fair amount of wanking, but at it's root it does a fairly good job expressing some of the (more freaked-out) aspects of techno, jazz fusion, hip-hop and funk that rarely get properly addressed by writers coming from either a more academic or pop-journalistic

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2002-11-27 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Brendan Nelson wrote: I guess that if Eshun was on this list he'd defend himself by pointing out that electronic/futuristic music is so new, comparitively, that the conceptual framework for describing it - in terms of its construction as well as of its effect on the

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2002-11-26 Thread Data General
There's a book, I think I might have mentioned it a long time ago, called What Kind of House Party is This? Berkshire, England: Mind In You Publishing, from 1995. published by a British fellow named Jonathan Fleming who had little knowledge of electronic dance music in the states, but an

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2002-11-26 Thread Tom Robbins/Magic Feet
But if you're willing to follow along, and excuse the sometimes excessive dips into self-created jargon, he has some interesting ideas. No digging for a needle in a haystack -- they're good, fairly big ideas. But they sit alongside the specialized terms he invents, and you just have to be

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2002-11-26 Thread Mike Brown
Cobert, Gwendal wrote: Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture; by Simon Reynolds. Could it be some other version of Energy Flash Yes, for the North American market, he gave the book a different title and (so I hear) edited it somewhat. No free CD came with it,

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2002-11-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
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2002-11-25 Thread Neil Wallace
Ive always avoided this book as ive seen kodwo on a few music documentaries and he always seems to be completely up his own a$$ :-Original Message- :From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 6:39 PM :To: Ron; 313 :Subject: Re: (313) books on techno

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2002-11-25 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Neil Wallace: Ive always avoided this book as ive seen kodwo on a few music documentaries and he always seems to be completely up his own a$$ Thank God it's not just me who thinks this! I never watch Newsnight Review! Having said that, he's written some excellent articles I still refer to

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2002-11-25 Thread Peter Leidy
Neil Wallace: Ive always avoided this book as ive seen kodwo on a few music documentaries and he always seems to be completely up his own a$$ I attended a guest lecture by Kodwo last year at the Art Institute of Chicago. The lecture focused specifically on Herbert's Bodily Functions, the

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2002-11-25 Thread Kim B
Thanks for pointing out some books to read on the evolution of Techno. I found that one of the most amazingly written books on electronic music from the beginning is: Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture; by Simon Reynolds. The opening chapter which he refers to as

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2002-11-25 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
Thanks for pointing out some books to read on the evolution of Techno. I found that one of the most amazingly written books on electronic music from the beginning is: Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture; by Simon Reynolds. Could it be some other version

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2002-11-25 Thread Kim B
the records lists at the end of each chapter are worth the book alone IMHO. Definately agree with that. He has written a lot of works on this subject, I think this is the best. His opinions should be taken with a grain of salt, but his commentary is flawless and it is easy to understand what

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2002-11-25 Thread marc christensen
I'm not about to defend Eshun's -- uh -- excesses in More Brilliant than the Sun. He has a tendency to throw a lot of stuff about, and frankly a lot of it is more like an academic version of scat-poetry than serious analysis. (I've always liked that he included fiction in the subtitle --

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2002-11-23 Thread dave cronin
absolutely crucial is Kodwo Eshun's More Brilliant Than the Sun: Adventures In Sonic Fiction, a freaked-out exploration of the mutations and forms of Black Atlantic Futurism from Miles to Drexcya. the book reads like how Kool Keith might lecture if he were a professor in late 20th century African

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2002-11-23 Thread Robert Taylor
PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 6:39 PM To: Ron; 313 Subject: Re: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun absolutely crucial is Kodwo Eshun's More Brilliant Than the Sun: Adventures In Sonic Fiction, a freaked-out exploration of the mutations and forms of Black Atlantic Futurism

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2002-11-20 Thread Mike Brown
Ron wrote: can anybody compile a list of book somebody has to have http://www.disquiet.com/page-spotter.html This bibliography, compiled by Marc Weidenbaum, tries to focus on ambient music, but mentions quite a few titles you'd probably be interested in seeking. - Mike

(313) books on techno

2002-11-19 Thread Ron
hi, after some people mentioned some books i got more interested in books about detroit, its music and its history can anybody compile a list of book somebody has to have...smile regards ron

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2002-11-19 Thread sean deason
deason - Original Message - From: Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:33 AM Subject: (313) books on techno hi, after some people mentioned some books i got more interested in books about detroit, its music and its history can

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2002-11-19 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
: (313) books on techno One of the best sources I know of is Techno : The rough Guide by Tim Barr. Every third page features either a Detroit techno artist or a reference to Detroit techno. Theres also The All Music Guide to Techno (which I dont have, but I have seen it couple of times

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2002-11-19 Thread Ron
313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) books on techno David Toop - Ocean of Sound is a good read for the electronic music listener... detroit centainly gets a numbers of mentions...well worth a read... -Original Message- From:sean deason [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Tuesday

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2002-11-19 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
does anybody know the book Detroit's Michigan Central Stadium by Kelli Barbara Kavanaugh ??? is it good?? That's about the Old Michigan Central Station, not stadium :) Check: http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexreq =viewarticleartid=6 For more info...

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2002-11-19 Thread Ron
thanx... i just copied the name from amazon.de so they misspelled it...lol. ron -- Forwarded Message From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:57:57 +0100 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) books on techno does anybody know the book Detroit's Michigan

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2002-11-19 Thread seth redmond
I found this a bit grating after a while. Not that the book's bad or anything, but no matter how tenuous the connection it starts every review along the lines of Whilst Derek May, Kevin Saunderson and Juan atkins were developing the cold machine stylings of their native detroit --insert

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2002-11-19 Thread Craig Harrison
PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2002 17:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) books on techno I found this a bit grating after a while. Not that the book's bad or anything, but no matter how tenuous the connection it starts every review along the lines of Whilst Derek May