wishing to exploit it and ridicule those wishing to maintain
it and thrive
from their efforts and contributions.
From: Steven Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] the race debate
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:22:34 +0100
Some of you
: (bcc: Oliver Barkovic/ObTech)
Subject: [313] the race debate
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is oh so exciting.
y'all should shut up and read this article:
http://www.city-journal.org/html/11_1_whats_holding_blacks.html
and please, post about a million more times about it. we'd like that.
OkI'll start off first. Homeboy is a
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So this article is fact??
What about this?
http://www.msnbc.com/news/548387.asp
Is this fact also?
There is no such thing as fact... Check the Flat Earth
Society for example... You can prove any opinion wrong
if you think about it long enough... Therefore
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is oh so exciting.
y'all should shut up and read this article:
http://www.city-journal.org/html/11_1_whats_holding_blacks.html
and please, post about a million more times about it.
Here's a fact Nick: I like Techno.
You're failing to realize that there is a considerable difference
between an opinion, which is necessarily based on a limited
amount of objective experience combined with subjective
judgements, and a fact, which might require no objective
] the race debate
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:12:54 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is oh so exciting.
y'all should shut up and read this article:
http://www.city-journal.org/html/11_1_whats_holding_blacks.html
and please, post about a million more times about it. we'd like
Some of you will be the first in line to buy your tickets,
but I caution
you. If this does, in fact, occur as it has been outlined to
me, the global
family...and I mean the FOR REAL mugs-- the world over-- will
respond. Try
to take over, white wash, distort, divert or dilute any of
Some of you will be the first in line to buy your tickets,
but I caution
you. If this does, in fact, occur as it has been outlined to
me, the global
family...and I mean the FOR REAL mugs-- the world over-- will
respond. Try
to take over, white wash, distort, divert or dilute
Folks find it easier to win arguments when they demonize the opposition.
Yeah, too true. Next thing you know someone will be calling me a fascist.
Talk about shooting the messenger...though KDJ doesn't need me to defend
his views. Glad I pushed a few buttons. Though I've seen some thoughtful,
of the iceberg. If you truly
believe in this music and culture perhaps you might like to join in the
fight for its defense and longevity.
From: Steven Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] the race debate
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:19:52 +0100
Some of you will be the first
and contributions.
From: Steven Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] the race debate
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:22:34 +0100
Some of you will be the first in line to buy your tickets,
but I caution
you. If this does, in fact, occur as it has been
W:
Thanks for the provocation regarding our chosen vocation :]
From: Charles Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] the race debate
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:07:48 -0400
Folks find it easier to win arguments when they demonize
to improve our own and others life.
may the force be with you
peter
- Original Message -
From: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: [313] the race debate
: With a tag line of: Ford Focus...Detroit Techno
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:40:52PM +, laura gavoor wrote:
With a tag line of: Ford Focus...Detroit Techno sponsoring a Moby
tour...what do you suggest?
Shall a Mike Banks or a Juan Atkins for example, sit back and let someone
else make his money and benefit from their efforts while
313 created what? Electronic dance music was not created in Detroit.
What if people started saying that black, American people have no business
sampling or being inspired by Kraftwerk?
or Kraftwerk having no business being inspired by James Brown.
this train of thought could go on
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 02:21:00PM -0400, Dan Sicko wrote:
What if people started saying that black, American people have no business
sampling or being inspired by Kraftwerk?
or Kraftwerk having no business being inspired by James Brown.
this train of thought could go on forever, no?
My
313 created what? Electronic dance music was not created in Detroit.
Umm, Detroit Techno.
What if people started saying that black, American people have no business
sampling or being inspired by Kraftwerk?
It would be ridiculous. Have Derrick May, Afrika Bambatta or Carl Craig
given the
this is so ridiculous. why don't you take this discussion into personal
e-mail? stop blowing up my mailbox.
From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] the race debate
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:21:00 -0400
313 created what
OK...
I guess I kinda started all this mess in a way, and now I want to clarify
what I was trying to say last night at 5:00 in the morning I was just
basically defending my, as a white kid from the suburbs of detroit, right to
give proper respect to black artists and their music I feel
What's with all the 313 - Ann Arbor residents? I knew I wasn't the only
one, but dayum!
:)
And as far as the Subject, for those who had a problem with it, I was just
saying that I was annoyed with the race and techno debate, and how it makes
me feel to be a suburban white kid who is 23 years
: RE: [313] the race debate
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 17:40:52
With a tag line of: Ford Focus...Detroit Techno sponsoring a Moby
tour...what do you suggest?
Shall a Mike Banks or a Juan Atkins for example, sit back and let someone
else make his money and benefit from their efforts while
yeah yeah, but racism/stereotyping still exists my friend and since we are a
new and smarter
generation, we shouldn't so easily sweep it to the side like other
generations did.
We can only evolve when we admit to the world's imperfections and reflect on
it
amongst ourselves even if there's
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