RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-19 Thread Dan Bean
Yup, they're good guys. -Original Message- From: David Armin-Parcells [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2008 21:56 To: UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: rg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 It's true Detroit is a great city to ride in I

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2008-03-18 Thread UI Design
, they love it. Safer than London... -Original Message- From: rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 March 2008 03:57 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 Would it be safe riding a bicycle around the city during DEMF? -Original Message

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2008-03-18 Thread David Armin-Parcells
Bean; rg; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 There are a few cycle rental places starting up recently. I'll find the info for you cos I know cycling downtown is really becoming a popular thing to do. I always cycle during the summer now. It's much preferred

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread M Ng
that is an entirely different comment on a completely different issue and doesn't even belong on this 313 thread. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with MNG and Greg about

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread Michael Kuszynski
Now let's get back to issues of substance like t-shirts and candy ravers. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:27 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is an entirely different comment on a completely different issue and doesn't even belong on this 313 thread. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:34 AM,

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:27 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is an entirely different comment on a completely different issue and doesn't even belong on this 313 thread. i 3 complacency. tom

RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread Dan Bean
I know a few downtown Detroit cyclists, they love it. Safer than London... -Original Message- From: rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 March 2008 03:57 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 Would it be safe riding a bicycle around the city during DEMF

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread M Ng
, they love it. Safer than London... -Original Message- From: rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 March 2008 03:57 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 Would it be safe riding a bicycle around the city during DEMF? -Original Message- From: Frank

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread UI Design
London... -Original Message- From: rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 March 2008 03:57 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 Would it be safe riding a bicycle around the city during DEMF? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-16 Thread JT Stewart
No I completely disagree with you Greg. sorta kinda Detroit, to me, is not a festival. Uh wha? But we're talking about the festival. No one has said that Greektown, or the afterparties, or showing up at so'n'so's (insert techno namedrop) house is not great. That stuff is all great. Traveling is

RE: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-15 Thread rg
Would it be safe riding a bicycle around the city during DEMF? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:01 PM To: darnistle Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 yeah the more i look at that list that the girl

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-15 Thread Fred Heutte
I'm with MNG and Greg about this. The festival itself isn't what it used to be, and so what. I'm just glad there is something, the music is at least pretty good and sometimes excellent. I can't think of more than an hour or two over eight years when it sucked so bad on four stages that I just

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-15 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with MNG and Greg about this. The festival itself isn't what it used to be, and so what. I'm just glad there is something and this is how we get things like george bush for president. thank god there is something. tom

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-14 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
darnistle wrote: Did Akufen actually play the festival? Yes. Underground. jeff

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-14 Thread UI Design
On 3/13/08, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers over the last eight

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-14 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:32 AM, UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK... I'm sorry, but I practically choked on my morning coffee when I read this... Frank, I had such higher opinions of you than this!! You think the overall number of performers increased? They've consistently had 4

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-14 Thread m50
At 08:32 2008.03.14, UI Design wrote: On 3/13/08, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would be ideal, yes, but i'd bet that what has really happened is that the overall number of performers has increased, while the detroit representation has stayed about the same. and, realistically,

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-14 Thread UI Design
I'm sorry Tom, maybe it's my shortage of sleep or the mass amounts of coffee I had this morning... but I keep trying to comprehend what your saying with this and I can't . If its important, can you rephrase this? Make it simple so my mind thats too tired to keep up with the racing caffeine can

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-14 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:29 PM, UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry Tom, maybe it's my shortage of sleep or the mass amounts of coffee I had this morning... but I keep trying to comprehend what your saying with this and I can't . If its important, can you rephrase this? Make it

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-14 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: except that simple math shows that it is indeed very possible to have more performers by just shortening the length of each set. Also there aren't as many people doing two separate sets in later years. -- matt

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-14 Thread Michael Kuszynski
haha yea i did not get he point either. On 3/14/08, UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry Tom, maybe it's my shortage of sleep or the mass amounts of coffee I had this morning... but I keep trying to comprehend what your saying with this and I can't . If its important, can you rephrase

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-14 Thread Detroit Techno Militia
I know I didn't have all the people on there - I just gathered what I could find. I also noted that I only had a partial list and I couldn't remember what years I missed. Just giving you guys a point to start from. :) -angie On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-14 Thread darnistle
I sorta remember seeing him scheduled but I never heard his set, despite going to the area several times. Then again, the sound quality is so murky in the underground area, I might not have realized it was him playing. I hope the Paxahau group do something about the sound in that area. Its

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-14 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
darnistle wrote: I sorta remember seeing him scheduled but I never heard his set, despite going to the area several times. Then again, the sound quality is so murky in the underground area, I might not have realized it was him playing. No - you'd have known it from a ways off. They had the

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread JT Stewart
better but I don't know if you all realise how negative you all sound, as if it was better if it wasn't happening at all. Yeah, but you know we don't actually feel that way right, because every message (except maybe Tmo's) has sad something like I'll be there anyway, or what I have said,

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Michael Kuszynski
whats fwiw On 3/13/08, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: better but I don't know if you all realise how negative you all sound, as if it was better if it wasn't happening at all. Yeah, but you know we don't actually feel that way right, because every message (except maybe Tmo's) has

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Matt Chester
on that note, putting the festival line up to one side - has there been any news of good afterparties happening yet? other than the Soul Skate one... Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: i spend all my money over festival weekend at local detroit record stores, restaurants, and clubs that support the

RE: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Odeluga, Ken
For what it's worth. Or: Friday's when it's worse. Lame I know, but I had to have a go. -Original Message- From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:08 PM To: JT Stewart; M Ng; 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) demf 2008 whats fwiw On 3/13

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Michael Kuszynski
] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:08 PM To: JT Stewart; M Ng; 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) demf 2008 whats fwiw On 3/13/08, JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: better but I don't know if you all realise how negative you all sound, as if it was better if it wasn't happening

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but some of the artists over the past 2 years have been a gigantic joke. maybe you want to go back to bad raves, but i feel like that is devoid of any culture at all in 2008. I can't the last year's lineup on

RE: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Dan Bean
Parties possibly in the pipeline from Beatdown and Rick Wilhite separately. V. Much tbc though. -Original Message- From: Matt Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March 2008 12:10 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) demf 2008 on that note

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't the last year's lineup on the site because i keep getting redirected to the photo gallery, but the press release highlights Jeff Mills, Moodymann, and Model 500?! press releases highlighting stuff isnt

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:54 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: think we can all cut Paxahau some slack and let the festival improve gradually. improve gradually? at the rate they are improving now, the festival will be completely worthless in a year or two. i love the better organization and

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread jwan allen
D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) demf 2008 on that note, putting the festival line up to one side - has there been any news of good afterparties happening yet? other than the Soul Skate one... Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: i spend all my money over

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Warning, last time I did any kind of analysis like that I was shouted down :) The archives are at http://elists.resynthesize.com/313 On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does anybody have a complete archive of the festival lineups throughout the years? i

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2008-03-13 Thread Detroit Techno Militia
A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have played at past DEMF's. I didn't sort by year but here you go if you want it. Here is a partial list of the people that have played at the festival in years past. ADULT JOHN ARNOLD A GUY CALLED GERALD JUAN ATKINS ARIL

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Southern Outpost
are u sure you got them all? ;) On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have played at past DEMF's. I didn't sort by year but here you go if you want it. Here is a partial list of the

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Greg Earle
So JT, in 2 different posts you're basically admitting that you didn't go to the festival either last year or the year before? If so, you've automatically lost your right to bitch about it. Detroit, to me, is not a festival. Detroit is a pilgrimage to Mecca. Detroit is about reuniting with

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So JT, in 2 different posts you're basically admitting that you didn't go to the festival either last year or the year before? If so, you've automatically lost your right to bitch about it. incorrect. Detroit, to me, is

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Todd Sines
actually, you didn't. I know at least Autechre, Kit Clayton, Titonton and myself played the second year at the underground stage. ;) Looks like most of 2001 was omitted; and yet Kenny Larkin is on there 4 times.. did he really play 4 times? +odd -- On Mar 13, 2008, at 7:39 PM, Southern

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Glazer
the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers over the last eight years (perhaps excluding 2001) have been from the detroit area of the 48 or so who have performed more than once, 38 have been from detroit (80%) Kevin Saunderson has played five times, and Mike Grant and Mike Huckaby

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Glazer
er i meant seven years, duh On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers over the last eight years (perhaps excluding 2001) have been from the detroit area of the 48 or so who have performed more than

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread /0
sounds good to me. 1/3 detroit, 2/3 other. - Original Message - From: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:53 PM Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers over the last eight years (perhaps excluding 2001) have been from the detroit area of the 48 or so who have performed more than once, 38 have been from

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Glazer
: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:53 PM Subject: Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008 the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers over the last eight years (perhaps excluding 2001) have been from

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Glazer
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the facts: only 114 (36%) of the 315 individual performers over the last eight years (perhaps excluding 2001) have been from the

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would be ideal, yes, but i'd bet that what has really happened is that the overall number of performers has increased, while the detroit representation has stayed about the same. and, realistically, i think the

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
found this via wayback machine line-up for 2001 (seems partial to me but maybe not) I think I might have a schedule from the very first one kicking around in a box @ home Official lineup in alphabetical order. Afronaught Alton Miller Autechre Ayro Binary Star Carl Cox Common Factor Dark River

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
this is exactly what a list of non-detroit artists should look like at a detroit festival. we dont need no booka shade! tom On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found this via wayback machine line-up for 2001 (seems partial to me but maybe not) I think I might have a

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread darnistle
Did Akufen actually play the festival? I remember seeing him at an afterparty, but not at the festival. Also, Orb, Richard Devine and Photek played, but aren't listed below. -- {}0+| Detroit Techno Militia wrote: A year or two ago, I put together a list of all the people that have played

Re: (313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Glazer
yeah the more i look at that list that the girl from DTM posted, the more i realize how incomplete it is. man, 2001 ruled. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did Akufen actually play the festival? I remember seeing him at an afterparty, but not at the

RE: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, I agree with the below. And maybe I'm not qualified to comment since I'm not going. But while it's an improvement on previous years to have it confirmed that it definitely is happening at this time surely at 73 days to go and you're trying to sell people $40 / $150 tickets would it not be

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Frank Glazer
in light of the history of the event, it's terribly unlikely that the lineup will not be worth the $40 3-day cost. besides, most people i know go regardless of who is on the lineup, many go simply to support detroit. that is, after all, what the event is all about, isn't it? On Wed, Mar 12,

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread robin
in light of the history of the event, it's terribly unlikely that the lineup will not be worth the $40 3-day cost. besides, most people i know go regardless of who is on the lineup, many go simply to support detroit. that is, after all, what the event is all about, isn't it? That last

RE: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes but my point is regarding people who are not most people i know and that in the history of the event it hasn't been financially viable. What I'm trying to say is that Paxahau are trying to make a go of it (and good on them, this is not hating). It seems that to this end they're

RE: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
in light of the history of the event, it's terribly unlikely that the lineup will not be worth the $40 3-day cost. I disagree. The first few were free and chock full of Detroit. More D-bang for your (non)bucks. Recently we've seen a decline in Detroit representation and the price going up.

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread JT Stewart
Excellent points Francis, about the commercial side. Their approach is not geared towards music lovers, and it's a shame in the eyes of people like us. I think they're already putting on all the music they like though and wouldn't consider what they're doing as making concessions. The change in

RE: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Toby Frith
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2008 16:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) demf 2008 Excellent points Francis, about the commercial side. Their approach is not geared towards music lovers, and it's a shame in the eyes of people like us. I think they're already putting on all

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without wanting to be too harsh on the organisers or the spirt of the festival, major headliners at a festival that hopes to attract international punters should be announced at least 3 to 4 months in advance at the

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Martin Dust
On 12 Mar 2008, at 16:01, JT Stewart wrote: Excellent points Francis, about the commercial side. Their approach is not geared towards music lovers, and it's a shame in the eyes of people like us. I think they're already putting on all the music they like though and wouldn't consider what

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread /0
wrong. - Original Message - From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: RE: (313) demf 2008 No. the event is about showcasing/celebrating

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Michael Kuszynski
, March 12, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: RE: (313) demf 2008 No. the event is about showcasing/celebrating the legacy and current direction of Detroit techno and the talent and contributions that the city has/have made musically throughout the years. -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: RE: (313) demf 2008 No. the event is about showcasing/celebrating the legacy and current direction of Detroit techno and the talent and contributions

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread JT Stewart
Location. Non-festival events that exist only because of the festival. DEMF is now musically indistinguishable from a number of other festivals. In fact I doubt it will have a lineup even close to as good as BLOC which starts tomorrow in Manchester. http://www.blocweekend.com/ After currency

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread /0
- From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:38 PM Subject: Re: (313) demf 2008 wrong. - Original Message - From: Stoddard, Kamal

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I can't believe, based on the bookings, that the folks organizing it see it as being tied to detroit techno as much as detroit's techno festival. totally agree with that granted I haven't been to the fest in a number of years but from the line-ups from the first three fests to today's fest

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread /0
PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:47 PM Subject: Re: (313) demf 2008 I can't believe, based on the bookings, that the folks organizing it see it as being tied to detroit techno as much as detroit's techno festival. totally agree

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 6:52 PM, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm sure it will f most of you off, but I'd rather it be this way. detroit pretty much caters only to itself, which means the festival is a rare chance to catch some of the stuff that would never get a booking or a decent

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread JT Stewart
Yes we all come to Detroit, the birthplace of more than a few distinctly American musical styles, to celebrate the music of elsewhere. Identity is important, especially in this age of omni-culture and accelerating hegemony. Identity is more important in the long run than being just another venue,

(313) lineups? Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Frank Glazer
does anybody have a complete archive of the festival lineups throughout the years? i checked the wiki and they only go as far back as 2005. i'd really like to analyze the data and break it down to percentages as to how the detroit representation has changed over time. kent - where are the

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread M Ng
i think we can all agree that it's not going to be like the first couple of DEMFs and I really think that we should all stop bitching about how it could be or why it is. IT'S NOT GOING BACK THAT WAY SO GET OVER IT. I have long given up on wishing for the old DEMF and I just look forward to use it

RE: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread Dan Bean
Enjoy pikeys We'll try our best. Thankfully it's not actually in Manchester though. Will see some of you in Detroit this year too. The non-existence of the lineup hasn't had any effect on my travel plans.

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread JT Stewart
i think we can all agree that it's not going to be like the first couple of DEMFs and I really think that we should all stop bitching about how it could be or why it is. IT'S NOT GOING BACK THAT WAY SO GET OVER IT. No one is crying about it. You don't have to abandon all critical discourse

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread JT Stewart
No one is crying about it. You don't have to abandon all critical Wah wah you sound like you're crying to me! How about you get over it and let people talk about what they want to and you don't try and shout them down? How about I wanna tell you to shut up so SHUT UP I don't think

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-12 Thread M Ng
noted. but this whole thread has been so taxing, and i feel it is the same comments on this list every year. I am over it, that's why I endured the long list of whinging that goes on this list before I posted. sure it can be improved, why not. but what I realised, esp after going last year, and

Re: (313) demf 2008

2008-03-11 Thread Michael Kuszynski
Sweeet. For however mnml these guys choose to get and give bookings to their white-late-20s-hipster friends, it's quite a miracle to my life that it happens. I'm sure there's tons of talking back and forth from one techno universe to another, but for all I care, as me and many friends have taken

Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-25 Thread Martin Dust
On 24 Feb 2008, at 19:40, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, KHJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dbx (debut of new live set) mixmaster morris those are nice. benny benassi Wonder how many people will put there hands up? ;) m

Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
On 25 feb 2008, at 11:02, Martin Dust wrote: On 24 Feb 2008, at 19:40, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, KHJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dbx (debut of new live set) mixmaster morris those are nice. benny benassi Wonder how many people will put there hands up?

Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-25 Thread Martin Dust
On 25 Feb 2008, at 10:34, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: On 25 feb 2008, at 11:02, Martin Dust wrote: On 24 Feb 2008, at 19:40, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, KHJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dbx (debut of new live set) mixmaster morris those are nice. benny

Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-25 Thread Carlos de Brito
I think I am KJ, Benassi is the can't get no satisfaction guy, that f** guy - my bad... m yes, he is. and he's also the guy who won the remix grammy a few weeks ago, instead of c2. c*

Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-25 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:40 PM Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, KHJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dbx (debut of new live set) mixmaster morris those are nice. benny benassi i hope

Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
:33 PM: when I talked to jason two months ago, he said that the demf schedule was pretty much worked out. - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:40 PM Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-25 Thread klaus boss
Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:40 PM Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, KHJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dbx (debut of new live set) mixmaster morris

Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-25 Thread kent williams
I have also heard from a friend who will be playing this year, and at least as it relates to his or her performance, things are still not set in stone. Sorry for the tortured diction but I was trying to say what I could, without divulging what I was asked not to. ;-) On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:23

Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, KHJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dbx (debut of new live set) mixmaster morris those are nice. benny benassi i hope this is a joke. also heard more vague talk of paxahau trying to book m.i.a. and girl talk. dear god, no. tom

Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-24 Thread /0
when I talked to jason two months ago, he said that the demf schedule was pretty much worked out. - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:40 PM Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings On Sun, Feb

Re: (313) demf 2008?

2008-02-15 Thread kent williams
Haha. Actually KJ, if you're coming over, it wouldn't hurt to ask around with Detroit musicians about used gear they might want to sell. Bringing back something new will incur significant tarriffs, where used gear may not. Maybe Mad Mike will sell you that 808 out of the display case ;-) On Thu,

Re: (313) demf 2008?

2008-02-14 Thread kent williams
Ah yes, the first sign of the coming spring: Someone asking about the Festival! Honestly I don't know why Paxahau doesn't start announcing line-up a little earlier, to attract overseas fans. Especially now since Bush has turned the dollar into a gum wrapper. Hey all you foreign kids! When was the

Re: (313) demf 2008?

2008-02-14 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Either that or spend it on that new Prophet '08 Module ;-) On 14 feb 2008, at 17:15, kent williams wrote: Ah yes, the first sign of the coming spring: Someone asking about the Festival! Honestly I don't know why Paxahau doesn't start announcing line-up a little earlier, to attract overseas