hey,
I know europe has numerous internet records stores to choose from - time
and money depending - but i'm short in seeing quality US stores. Is there a
cheaper alternative for those in the southern hemisphere to get US vinyl
through EU stores?
Help would be great. I'm finding that if we order
... well you're all my friends really but ...
Due to my recent low-six-figures contribution to the coffers of the
State of Iowa and the good old U S of A, and impending major surgery
for my wife, I will not be making it to DEMF.
313 seems the place to let all the people I'd likely want to
sonic groove, dancetracks, and sattelite in new york all have fine internet
ordering (not as good as some european sites) but postage from the states
always seems more expensive.
if you want to buy vinyl there really isn't any cheaper alternative than
ordering from europe.
but at $20 a record, it
You'll like this -
telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
For the less technical people -
Just type in the sentence 'telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl' at the Run prompt
in the Start Menu, and just sit back and watch! I don't think Macs have a
telnet application, so sorry!
All the best,
Andrew
Very cute - and of course there is telnet for the Mac! (I use MacTelnet) :)
lisa
Andrew wrote:
You'll like this -
telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
For the less technical people -
Just type in the sentence 'telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl' at the Run prompt
in the Start Menu, and just sit back
Oh sure, I meant there's no native telnet app - at least I think that's
true. I'm a Mac fan!
Cheers,
Andrew
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From: lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 3:44 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Something amusing
Very
There is a native telnet app in Mac OS X now :-)
Andrew wrote:
Oh sure, I meant there's no native telnet app - at least I think that's
true. I'm a Mac fan!
Cheers,
Andrew
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From: lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday,
Did anyone make it out to this ? If so how was it ? Its friday and I
have seen no reports? :(
Regards,
Ramon
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Ramon Crespo wrote:
Did anyone make it out to this ? If so how was it ? Its friday and I
have seen no reports? :(
Considering the fact that it's in ann arbor and ran until 2 (35 minutes
ago), most in the area who attended are just about now getting back to
their keyboards.
hahahahhaha its only 303am eastern time.
the party is just getting good I imagine.
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From: Ramon Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 2:31 AM
Subject: (313) minus pre-demf party?
Did anyone make it out to this ? If so how was
Oh sure, I meant there's no native telnet app - at least I think that's
true. I'm a Mac fan!
The Mac OS X Terminal has telnet built-in...
Cheers,
Tom
i had fun.
magdas set was really good and i think i enjoyed it the most tonight. se played
a couple of good acid house track like jesus loves the acid and a jackmaster
track think it's called debasser? it's on the bang the box ep. and here usual
minimal techno. excellent mixing
rich came out
Radio Jatkoaika 19:00 - 23:00 (+2h GMT/UT)
http://byrokratia.org/radio/
The automatic log book of the cargo ship Antero Vipunen.
Date 23.05.2003. Status of the ship is normal. Navigation
computer checked. Course optimized. The crew is in the
stasis chambers, state is normal.
Abnormal activity
For those of you at home or work, instead of being on their way to Detroit
:-(
there are some nice and interesting mixes, including Keith Tucker's set in
Rome at www.technoseeker.com/djsetlive.html
fab.
vinyl has pretty much priced itself out of the market for me i australia.
final scratch and broadband seem the only way to go here. or cd djing.
james
That's a shame ... there's an opportunity in that for someone though ...
Well now I stand corrected! If I'd taken a little more time in my post I
might not have exposed myself like that, my personal geek rating has
plummetedyou live and learn.
Andrew :-)
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From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
wow i look forward to this, i'm surprised we've not seen more of this type
of mix (there's scion and de2 and that 2 many djs) around as there's
several packages that can do this now.
so is this approach the logical progression of the megamix wher you use a
multitrack tape?
and is this likely to
twas good...my feet kill...nuff said
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: (313) minus pre-demf party?
i had fun.
magdas set was really good and i think i enjoyed it the most tonight. se
played
a couple of
I look forward to it too - well done to Alex, by the way, who I notice
has one of his OurTime tracks on the compilation! :)
Anyway, on the point of this being a new form of mix - I think it is the
logical progression on from the Hotmix 5 style megamix, and I am
prepared to argue the point.
First
For me, I don't feel we've even scratched the surface of what could be done
live with ableton or final-scratch.
People are still more or less mp3-ing doing whole tracks, not really messing
with interesting short elements in themselves, which could be used to create
something different in
Another question, a few years ago ( i think around 1994/1995) I had a tape
with a mix cd from Kirk Degeorgio on it, with tracks from Herbie Hancock
f.i..
I lost this tape and don't know the title anymore, can anybody help me with
this?
Remco
It was called Check One and, IMNSHO is absolutely stunning in the way it mixes
jazz with techno - you can appreciate the comparisons after hearing that!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 10:50 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject:
Surgeon played at Tfunkshun a couple of weeks ago, and I know Scott is on
this list, any chance of a report Scott?
23/5/03 10:49 AM Odeluga, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For me, I don't feel we've even scratched the surface of what could be done
live with ableton or final-scratch.
People are still
Here is the tracklisting:
1 T'Raenon (Version) Photek Photek 00:07:17
2 Air Bag Local Zero
3 Solina Jedi Knights 00:11:04
4 Utopia Planetia Stasis 00:08:28
5 Las Palmas Joe Henderson 00:00:27
6 Prologue / Love, Love Julian Priester / Pepo Mtoto
Weird - this appeared in my box twice but I only sent it once.
Herbie Hancock's Nobu is on this - now that is techno!
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From: Robert Taylor
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Fw: Dex and FX with
oh my god my 2nd favourite photek tune of all time!
i thought this was the 313 list!
ab
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From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 9:32 PM
To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Fw: Dex and FX with Kirk
i agree with brendans post below. the software approach only becomes
invalid when the mix is presented in a trad 2x1200 and a mixer way (like a
lot of these main stream protooled juke-box style mixes)
i was listening to the megamix on the techno 1 - the new dance sound
compilation the other day
because you sent it to yourself and the list :)
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From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: (313) Fw: Dex and FX with Kirk Degiorgio
Weird - this
Doh!
Anyway - it was worth posting twice cos that listing is phenomenal!
That Jedi Nights track is beautiful
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From: ::) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 11:13 AM
To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Fw: Dex and FX
Thought a few people here may be interested in this link...
http://www.intuitivemusic.com/technoguidetimeline.html
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Robin
i see there's another article in Jockey Slut this month saying that mixing
records together is an out of date approach. i beg to differ.
I beg to differ too. Of course the advent of Final Scratch and Ableton Live
is exciting, but for f**ks sake.
More than 75% of the punters in the club
i'll be seeing Surgeon tomorrow night at house of god, birmingham. hopefully
it'll be a final scratch set.
If i'm in a fit state i'll post some feedback but the highlight will be
seeing Scion arrange and process tomorrow, I am seriously looking forward to
this :-)
Stuart
Date: Fri, 23 May
Scion - dribble!
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From: Stuart Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 11:38 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Fw: Dex and FX with Kirk Degiorgio
i'll be seeing Surgeon tomorrow night at house of god, birmingham. hopefully
it'll be a
i see there's another article in Jockey Slut this month saying that mixing
records together is an out of date approach. i beg to differ.
I know a couple of DJ's who don't mix and I find it OK actually. Take The
Pho-KU Sound System for example, Ian doesn't mix but his programming is
brilliant
we have two extremes here. looped bangers all night, same tempo, boring as
hell. and then we have the approach where selection rules and there is a
lot more variety and mixing is secondary...(if there is just one or the
other i prefer the second, simply because this approach allows a dj to
read
...I have got to say I am a bit disappointed in the
choice of schedule for the festival this
year...specifically, the fact that mills is going on
at 10pm Monday night. What about all the out of
towners who need to work the next morning in a
different city and leave before the festival ends?
I
Spare a thought for Jeff who has to fly back from the UK to play.
The line up looks pretty cool to me, I'll trade you?
Leave early Zach! Haven't you got to see Dr. Chuck A. Sickie on Tuesday?
Martin
23/5/03 12:54 PM Zachary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...I have got to say I am a bit disappointed in
Sorry if this has already been covered, but is anyone hosting a webcast from
the Movement fest this year?
Thanks,
Sean.
Citeren Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Thought a few people here may be interested in this link...
http://www.intuitivemusic.com/technoguidetimeline.html
Interesting, indeed.
It could be extended with this:
http://www.synthmuseum.com/magazine/time0010.html
R.
I would agree that traditional DJs listening to mixes done in things
like Ableton will try to copy some of the techniques they hear, and that
this will also help the traditional form of mixing to progress and
absorb new ideas. For example, the first time I heard proper booty music
was back in 1996
Similarly when I first listened to the derrick may mayday mix I thought it
was live but soon found out it wasn't - as it happens tho I can pull off
quite a few of those tricks live now and Ive always kinda strived to push
the live mixing thing a far as I can.
Peace-out
Marc
-Original
yeah that's what i'm getting at. in fact track selection (brendan
mentions it at the end of the below post) is more important
to the hi-tech dj.
another thought:
from what i can gather the Rave Act in the US classifies a party with no
djs and just live acts as something other than a rave and
Yes, track selection is definitely more important - while the
traditional DJ might cock up track selection sometimes (by simply not
being able to find the right record in time, or having had to limit the
number of records brought to a gig for weight reasons), a high-tech DJ
has no excuse for
another point:
the hi-tech dj (third wave dj?, have i been reading too much? :)) has
to approach selection in a similar way to a ghetto-tech dj. using two
copies to do your own edit/effects, using just small snippets of some
tracks juggled over the top of a beat track to create a new one, that
Anyone heading to homelands tommorow wanting to do a 313 meet get in touch !
Jeff Mills essential mix here I come!!! [w00p!]
Peace-out,
Marc
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This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use
Be-aware that sniffer dogs will be working this event, so if you have
anything in your pockets that you shouldn't, you will be arrested.
23/5/03 2:37 PM Langsman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone heading to homelands tommorow wanting to do a 313 meet get in touch !
Jeff Mills essential mix here
Like doggy biscuits?
-Original Message-
From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 3:38 PM
To: Langsman, Marc; 313 List
Subject: Re: (313) Homelands Warning
Be-aware that sniffer dogs will be working this event, so if you have
anything in your pockets that you
I like the term third wave dj actually! :)
Lots of recorded ghetto-tech mixes are done in hotmix style, that's
true, but it kind of remains that the ghetto-tech scene is probably the
most hostile to new techniques and methods for DJing. You can just
imagine the chorus of disapproval on the
a lot of the US people
are prepping to go to Movement
Oh, Movement.
Cor - looks rubbish that.
ESG, Amp Fiddler, Theo Parrish, MM, Juan? load of rubbish
You wanna come down my pub in Salford, thats where its at this weekend.
Sometimes they play the Smiths on a saturday night and everything.
Surely that would involve them atrresting most of there punters ?
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From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 4:38 PM
To: Langsman, Marc; 313 List
Subject: Re: (313) Homelands Warning
Be-aware that sniffer dogs will be working this
Haha yeah yeah - I mentioned final scratch on the ghettotech.de forum and
got repeatedly flamed for 'non-ghettoness' :/
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From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 3:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313)
hehe, well they were on the local South Today news this morning, saying that
even if people are caught with an amount of anything which may under normal
circumstances result in a ticking off - in this case they will be escorted
off the premises.
those dogs are v.perceptive too!
have fun and be
Hey keep on it. I don't know much about the as Im not a dj or a dinner
jacket but im reading avidly...it a good subject that I hope the list will
pick up on after movement - or after all the talk of movement has died down
Rav
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From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL
does that mean the internet is 'ghetto' or not?
ab
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From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:24 AM
To: 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) RE: Third Wave DJ was RE: (313) Fw: Dex and FX with
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Robert Taylor wrote:
Like doggy biscuits?
heh, that would be choice -- fill your pockets with strips of bacon.
I wouldn't normally dare to try to understand (let alone explain) the
logic applied by a lot of the regulars on there, but I suspect that they
would say that while some parts of the internet are ghetto (eg their
forum), other parts aren't (eg the 313 list)...
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From:
At 10:09 AM 5/23/2003, Kent williams wrote:
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Robert Taylor wrote:
Like doggy biscuits?
heh, that would be choice -- fill your pockets with strips of bacon.
Albeit somewhat messy.
jeff
Im also spotting a really messy situation whereas loads of people get there
, realise they have to chuck theyre stuff away so end up necking it all on
the spot instead = large field of casualties :/
Peace-oout,
Marc
--
From homelands site
drugs amnesty has been announced for party heads at this years Homelands,
which takes place this Saturday, May 24, at Matterly Bowl near Winchester.
Nope, that doesn¹t mean punters can leave planet earth whilst listening to
the likes of the Chemical Brothers, The Streets and
Can pills be sniffed by dogs???
what country are talking abt anyway? the UK? want cannabis derivatives
depenalized in the uk?
fab
ps. nice thread on the 3rd wave of djing..:)
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From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 List
i'm sure this was said of Creamfields, and while there were amnesty bins
i didn't see any sign of the dogs (well sniffer ones anyway, heh)
please don't ask why i was at creamfields as it was as crap as you'd
imagine it to be.
robin...
From homelands site
drugs amnesty has been announced for
They can be trained to sniff out anything - the only way to defeat them is to
get yourself a mutt of your own and stuff your stash up its behind, so when the
dog sniffs the other's butt, it can be put down to natural curiosity.
This is so OT but it's Friday
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From:
That's the funniest sh!t Ive read all day :D
Lol heh
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From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 5:56 PM
To: Fabrizio Nahum; Martin; Langsman, Marc
Cc: 313 List
Subject: RE: (313) Homelands Warning
They can be trained to sniff
For those not looking to party on the moderate to expensive side
tonight, might I suggest the following two parties
Acid Sonic Research party
Detroit Contemporary 5141 Rosa Parks Blvd. Detroit
Andrew Ahrendt
Steve Roy
Christian Bloch
Wraith
Kaku
Tristan Watkins
Minimalistik
$5
And for
Is it me, or are loads of the dates and facts wrong on this? e.g.
speed garage predates jungle? ministry of sound and cream on ibiza in
1997? Panasonic's 'Vakio' LP most influential experimental LP of the
90s. As the supposed result of 2 years of research, it seems kind
of sparse and
An Alan Oldman is listed as a fourth member of UR...
The description of jungle's origins kind of sounds like ghetto tech
(..mix House music and Hip Hop at 45 rpm)
Speed garage did not seriously emerge in the UK until 1996, with 1997
being the year it properly blew up. They list it at 1993...
You could pinch a few amnesty bins, take some decks with and start your own
'alternative' festival up the road :P
...take a bbq spit and you can cook up some dawg burgers too ;)
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From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 5:23 PM
To:
You could probably make enough money to not only buy more
gear, but also start your own record label. And your
ghetto credentials would be extremely high.
I think the ghetto credentials of someone hiding their drugs up a
dog's arse would be pretty high too... :)
Brendan
Trying to
For those going to other things, but still want to party afterwards, let
me just point out that we keep going till 6. if anybody is interested in
seeing a particalar performance here are the set times:
11:15-12:00 Steve Roy
12:00-12:45 Andrew Ahrendt
12:45-1:30Kaku
1:30-2:15 Kataconda
that thing is downright embarrassing
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Hyperreal. Org 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Techno Family Tree
Is it me, or are loads of the dates and facts wrong on this?
Hi folks. My shirt and slacks are all dusty... my knees are sore from
squatting to floor level, and i'm hungry from skipping lunch. However, i did
scare up a copy of kenny dixon's soul sounds EP on soul city and agent x's
in the morning EP on planet e.
I'd say it was a good lunch hour
i thought mike was going on at 11 and jim at 11:45?
or i though thats what mike said last night.
maybe i mis heard him?
either way i'm looking forward to dennis's and magda's party, your live set,
tristians set and finally putting faces to the names.
see you all tonight.
scotto
For those
Mike didn't know until 10 minutes ago :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 2:19 PM
To: Christian Bloch
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) on the cheap afterparties and a friendly reminder
i thought mike was going on at
Anyone who uses anything other than turntables and vinyl to DJ is not a DJ, just
as anyone who uses anything other than a musical instrument is not a musician
and so isn't making music.
Thank-you.
Tosh
--
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http://www.1200group.com/
is this flame bait?
i disagree.
i agree when people dj they are not making music, lost of people really dont get
that. but, if i went and sampled a bunch of sounds and then composed a track out
of them is that not music? but i didnot use an insturment. i'm also not refering
to sampling already
Yes, it's flame bait. Please let's not have this discussion again on
such a lovely Friday afternoon before an amazing weekend of music.
bvl
is this flame bait?
i disagree.
i agree when people dj they are not making music, lost of people
really dont get
that. but, if i went and sampled a
I think the guys from Detroit Encoding are looking into doing something for
it.
Eamonn - D1
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From: Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 2:06 PM
Subject: (313) movement webcast?
Sorry if this has already been covered, but
whoops, meant to type 1987, as appears in their timeline.
Aaah1987, the days when ministry and cream did not roam about
being rubbish!
ministry of sound and cream on ibiza in
1997?
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