Frank Glazer wrote:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Thor Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To play devil's advocate, that doesn't prove that if Kraftwerk had
never existed, Detroit techno would not have existed.
That was exactly my point. If you ask me, it proves that Detroit
techno would have
Frank Glazer wrote:
all i'm saying, and all i've ever said, is that juan atkins was making
techno before he heard kraftwerk. why is that so hard to understand?
It isn't.
What makes it illogical is the notion that he somehow escaped the
influence, whether or not he had heard the band.
Frank Glazer wrote:
says a lot about dubstep if you ask me.
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep
: )
Rav
Interesting - what does dubstep have to do with anything?
Unless they cracked
52 in September - still buying what I can afford to buy on an ex-GM worker 's
(now part-time college prof) pension.
Thank God for working wives!!! :-)
jeff
-- Original message --
I spaced his Skull Disco T and was just thiking about the set they played. My
bad.
jeff
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From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1. Maybe he just liked the T-Shirt?
2. there are 2 kinds of fogies -- those
I'm fine with all you chilluns - just stay the f^%$ of of my lawn, and for
God's sake, get rid of those troll dolls and pacifiers.
-- Original message --
From: Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
easy pops : )
about 10 years behind you.
Likewise I cant afford
Michael Kuszynski wrote:
i say a pretty sane looking guy in his forties standing in the lawn in
front of the hawtin close out on sunday, and was curious what the deal
was. kind of looked like ned flanders but not weird.
'twarn't me. I'm in my fifties and I can still kick Ned's can.
Nothing
Matt Kane's Brain wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what do you mean you wondered what the deal was???
Bouncers don't let in non-beautiful people without some interesting reason.
Those bouncers (and prettier people) all have dads and grandads -
robin wrote:
Lat time I asked this Tom Cox was the youngest. My challenge was that we
were all over 25. I think I may have been right.
How about the 'over 50s'?
j
Yup - he is 1/3 of Nospectacle ( http://nospectacle.com/ ), 2/3 of which
appear in the pic from Resident Advisor.
Thomas Ainslie wrote:
That looks like Chris McNamara (of Thinkbox?) on the left. He was my
animation professor in college. Awesome guy.
http://www.thinkbox.ca/
On Thu, May 29,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exactly! Can't really picture penguins smashing each other's teeth
out with big sticks-
Let's see a polar bear hang tight with his main squeeze's fertilized egg
between his feet all frackin' winter in the arctic with nothing to eat!
I've always though sports would
Matt Kane's Brain wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it's this bizarre phenomenon that seems to be
happening in the youth culture in the US that the death throes of the
rave scene circa 2000 are being replayed over and over again with
complete
Personally, I thought the Red Bull/Myspace stage (riverfront) kicked the
biggest share of tail this time out. The Pioneer stage was also really,
really nice - Andy Toth's set was quite memorable there for me.
When there wasn't a monkey blowing out the bass signals at the Beatport
tent (rarely
Howzabout the new Datassette LP on Ai?
jeff
-- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can anyone recommend some newish forward thinking Electro? Getting tired
of stuff that either sounds like it's stuck back in
look, i have nothing but love for kraftwerk. much of their oeuvre is
quite good, and i've been a fan since, i dunno, 1985. but i just
think their importance is overrated. like i said, nobody can deny
their influence, but i really believe that american disco, funk and
electro and dare i say
like i said, nobody can deny
their influence, but i really believe that american disco, funk and
electro and dare i say synthpop as a conglomeration was more important
to the detroit techno sound than the individual effect of kraftwerk.
Additionally, while the mentions of funk and disco
Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:
Marvin is a better name for a robot...
And, in fact, MARVIN is the name of the robot who talks to you when you
phone in an unemployment claim in Michigan - or at least, it used to be.
Maybe he's moonlighting as a conductor...although he should have his
hands full
Matt Chester wrote:
that's very handy, thanks for sharing :)
so where are the good places to eat on here? any recommendations
anyone? (for places that are walking distance downtown, we won't have a
car unfortunately...)
Find someone with a car!
Try Thang Long in Madison Heights for
*Which* ones are the ceylons again?
And where's Starbuck?
jeff
Martin Dust wrote:
You know how I've been defending Richie a bit, well christ knows what
the techno gods are going to make of this:
http://www.contakt-events.com/
But it made me laugh thinking
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He was certainly a guy who caught my attention at the time and I went on liking
for time afterward. I liked The Garden LP best I
think. When I first saw Gary Newman on Top Of The Pops I thought hey, he
looks like he's trying to rip off that other guy from a
few weeks
I think Numan has identified Foxx as an influence, ironically. Foxx was
leading Ultravox before Gary appeared on the scene.
I'll try to dig up the source, but I believe Numan had the lead on synth
work and actually tutored Foxx in that light.
Ultravox wasn't nearly as synth-laden in the
Yup - at least I'm clear that I read details about it back when it was
happening. I was moonlighting as a records store clerk in charge of
ordering imports in the mid-late 70s/early 80s and I kept up on
everything of that nature back then. I also had a friend who dated the
Warners record rep
Numan came on the scene?
Just been off to check Discogs and Cars was 1979, Ha Ha Ha '77. I thought the
gap was bigger. Maybe John was a fast learner ;-)
From: theREALmxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 May 2008 12:14
The legend has it that Numan *taught* Foxx to play synth
Nice interview here:
http://www.toazted.com/playinterview/1592/Dave-Clarke-interviews-John-Foxx-interview-part-1.html
I know he was all over The Pleasure Principle and I'm pretty sure he's
in cars. He can't be missed if he is!
jeff
Nice one Jeff, doesn't Billy appear in the Cars video? I don't remember
seeing any credits for him tho and I have all the early TA/GN releases.
Martin Dust wrote:
On 7 May 2008, at 13:24, theREALmxyzptlk wrote:
I know he was all over The Pleasure Principle and I'm pretty sure he's
in cars. He can't be missed if he is!
I'm sure he only played on two tracks...let me pull the cover...
m
I should have been clearer - I believe he
I saw him right around this time (the same 'tea and cookies with mum'
tour) which provided some fun technology blunders. Numan had this whole
maybe I'm an alien disassociated, disaffected stage presence going on,
and he'd just incorporated two electronic space-car looking bots (rather
like the
I loved all that stuff, Replicas and Pleasure Principle remain in my top
twenty - massive influence.
It was great. That was a really exciting period to be living near a city
where bands played and working at a store/influencing the stock in the
late 70s/early 80s.
As for touring with
Very solid compilation on Arne Weinberg's imprint.
He's selling copies through discogs (where I got mine)...
jeff
I love it !
And i'm so glad to hear a new Derek Carr track, sooo much emotions in it.
I wish i could see him live on a top of a mountain with a
to me, its close to ripping people off
you remove a piece of audio from its context, and you've divested the
creator from the sound with almost 100% efficiency
I see the point - but there are whole schools of art which purposely
divest an object from its context to recontextualize
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who's Fats Domino? Is he from Berlin?
Jason
He's from Blueberry Hill.
jeff
A friend's father (a sound engineer) used to say Orbital II (Brown) is
the bomb for checking a system.
jeff
Personally, I see them as related, but different animals.
I saw Mr. Modell at DEMF years back and it was stellar.
The poor sound is one thing, but it doesn't lead me to turn away from
the style. YMMV, of course. Off to work...
jeff
Imo, it's not so much BC
A-men. For a while after I first retired from GM (and hadn't
appropriately adjusted my outgo with my income), I ordered several boxes
from Hardwax and a few from Clone and RH, but as I have to make do on
blazing the college adjunct trail these days, I can rarely afford
anything I have to
FE is fine if what you want is in stock.
Speaking as someone who'd like to keep on *current* things domestic and
abroad musically, it's not so hot.
It won't do to wait on them to get in much of anything that's limited,
and it's a crap shoot waiting to see if they'll get the records in which
By the way Jernej, I finally downloaded and watched your Emergon
video/track - very nice stuff indeed.
For those who haven't seen it, check the avi here:
http://www.octex.si/video.html
jeff
Thanks yet again.
For the record, I've *always* enjoyed your stuff - mixes, live shows,
and those Tehnika discs.
jeff
Actually I have another video, that I did some time ago, for some DVD
compilation, that unfortunately hasent been released yet and it seams
Indeed. I remember when the fracas over those splits first started - mine are
still in slimlines.
Most of the old tin-box CD packages run the same risk of splitting from the
inside out.
jeff
-- Original
The plastic of the disc will not expand and contract like the metal stub on
which it rests in the case; over time, as it gets warm and expands, the discs
crack from the center outward .
jeff
-- Original message --
That could well be the case, but I burned cdrs from my copies right
after I got them and played those, especially when traveling. When I
heard people had cracked discs, I checked my own and three of them were
cracked. None of them were even opened more than a few times.
Chain Reaction
back in 1975-1976,
there was actually an Arp *store*... back then I fancied myself the next
Emerson
Dude,
You were STILL into ELP by '75?!?
They were so last week after Brain Salad Surgery...
jeff
J.C. wrote:
On 10 April 2008, theREALmxyzptlk wrote:
What's nearly as pathetic are the idiots who turn it into a vinyl vs.
digital culture war or simply think it's a hoot.
One wonders how they might feel if someone helped himself to their
belongings. If that's what being 'hipster' is all
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so, from what i gathered, he deserved it because he is a
hipster minimal musician that performs with a laptop and was
too busy dancing.
I'm still confused about those who insist on pinning the phrase
'hipster' on someone else while the former are obviously
I think if you feel that strongly you should stay on the list and fight
your cause.
Maybe - but some fights aren't worth waging.
For instance, if one or both sides seem overzealously (religiously)
entrenched and unyielding in position, and there's no clean exit
strategy in sight, it
Nick Parish wrote:
April 09, 2008
Matthew Dear's hard drive stolen mid-performance...
People - they ain't no good (Nick Cave).
What's nearly as pathetic are the idiots who turn it into a vinyl vs.
digital culture war or simply think it's a hoot.
One wonders how they might feel if someone
What's nearly as pathetic are the idiots who turn it into a vinyl vs.
digital culture war or simply think it's a hoot.
i think its a hoot. a whole harddrive? wow that must be so hard to
replace. i feel so bad for him. not.
Dramatic irony is always the best kind.
...I figure it will generate an argument. ;-)
http://theworld.org/taxonomy_by_date/2/20080331
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tenori-on
it's much easier for the audience to see the connection of what you're
doing to the music
no need for overhead projection
more visual display options
smaller - hand held
puts you back in front of the audience instead of looking down at a panel
overcomes that
Andy Kellman wrote:
Figures on a Beach, courtesy of Dearborn's own Back Porch Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48SWnIJ17Dk
(A few resources mention Detroit, but the group did seem a bit more...
er... Wonderland than Northland.)
Just a quick update; homeboy Chris Ewen (one-time sidekick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Considering that Figures pretty much moved to Boston in the mid-80's, they were
more or less considered a Boston band despite their truer Michigan origin.
the kooky scientist
Tis true indeed, but they'd already charted (in a small way) with
Swimming before they
k A gentleman doesn't kiss and
tell. Hauling someone up on perjury charges for trying to keep a
private matter private is BS -- it's the same as Clinton's
impeachment.
Gentlemen usually don't fire those who investigate them (ruining
careers) and help waste 9 million badly needed city
F
i've always thought it would be entertaining, as a dj, to play just
one record back to back to back for sixty minutes.
I have a friend (Dean) who did just this - it was back in the 80s and he
was spinning before a Dead Or Alive (;-) show in downtown Pontiac
(Detroit 'burb).
He bought an
Inn Season deserves a hearty second - it's been around forever, and they really
do an amazing job.
It's been there so long that I can't really remember for sure in which decade I
discovered it - but I think it was the late 70s.
Not vegetarian, but I would add Thang Long in Madison Heights (on
Record Time -- My favorite store was in Hamtramck because it's on a
nice little High Street, but I think it's closed, and only the
Ferndale and Roseville stores remain.
Make that the Roseville store; Ferndale is scheduled to close real soon
and if it's on schedule still, will not be there
Matt Kane's Brain wrote:
Were I going to the festival, I would go here: http://travelerstuba.com/
NOW we're talking techno.
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tips/getAttraction.php?tip_AttractionNo==663
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tips/getAttraction.php?tip_AttractionNo==10093
diana potts wrote:
Agreed.
If you want to venture out of the city-
Xedos (if it's still around) is a good place to chill.
Unfortunately, Xhedos is another casualty.
It's still there and is pretty much the same space (a nice coffee shop),
but it's now AJ's.
but i would guess that someone with a beard like
that ...
It's ALL in the beard. The software is just a trompe l'oeil.
I can simulate bird calls and produce uncomplicated melodies on
household appliances with mine, but it's just a shade beyond scruff.
the best part is that i find this
Thats a shame, they are a great live act (for a bunch of guys that stand
still before their terminals for the whole performance),
In the 70s and 80s, they used to sit!
jeff
darnistle wrote:
Did Akufen actually play the festival?
Yes. Underground.
jeff
...to an almost empty main stage - it was bliss.
jeff
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From: jwan allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
note: dan had some technical problems and didn't perform until day 3.
So basic channel played for 3 hours in the
By the way, Bill and Julian Schnabel are doing a FREE set tonight on the campus
of the U of M in Ann Arbor; the details are on my home computer or I'd post
them.
If there's interest, I can do so in a few hours when I get done teaching class.
Well, I knew it started with w J.
I'm old - I can't be expected to have a functional mind.
jeff
-- Original message --
From: Bill VanLoo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, Jeff!
It's actually Joshua Schnable, not
darnistle wrote:
I sorta remember seeing him scheduled but I never heard his set, despite
going to the area several times.
Then again, the sound quality is so murky in the underground area, I
might not have realized it was him playing.
No - you'd have known it from a ways off.
They had the
JT Stewart wrote:
keepin it real is on the way out, now it's time to keep it faux fo'sho
Hey - I'm just trying to *keep* something!
jeff
Everyone: Thanks!
jeff
Asking for a friend:
What/where is there anything club-wise to encounter in Glasgow?
Thanks!
jeff
It closes at the end of January, and there's been quite a sale on for
the past month or two. Mike Oliver is an email pal of mine.
A pity - great shop. It's folding not because of costs, but time factors
and career paths.
jeff
Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Hello
In effect, the RIAA is generating a more sophisticated piracy with every
step they take. Dramatic irony is the best kind.
jeff
Well the BPI (UK's RIAA) already shut sites down for hosting mixes.
I agree with Tom, if this does go ahead then the music industry as we
Could you be a bit more specific concerning the title, please?
Thanks.
jeff
pauley wrote:
Howdy. I saw a Moebius doco (2006) a few days ago, soundtrack by Ralf
Hutter. Pretty amazing stuff. Does anyone know if it: s released, can be
bouvght etc?
Correction - B1.
Nice combo of atmospherics with an electro tinge.
j
theREALmxyzptlk wrote:
Emile Facey wrote:
Whos Planet 43 then Paul? ;)
Those are some nice tracks on that new Ai, Emile.
B2 is my fave.
Emile Facey wrote:
Whos Planet 43 then Paul? ;)
Those are some nice tracks on that new Ai, Emile.
B2 is my fave.
jeff
Water is very important when you're making beer, but as far I know
you can make techno with tapwater.
Use the water to make the beer, THEN use the beer to make techno.
j
LOTS of free and great acts in the D this weekend.
Select the date on the upper left to show the daily menu:
http://detroitjazzfest.com/performances.html
The new Blamstrain record is available as a free download. And Juho
tosses in some techno licks every now and then. The Prince remix is fun,
too. Heresie: http://www.blamstrain.com
jeff
Martin Dust wrote:
It makes me smile and it is Friday...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=86Ok0B9EvZg
m
Quite OT as well, but funny. Kanye Mid-West ;-)
(Bonnie Prince Billy Oldham is the sidekick)
http://www.kanyewest.com/?content=video_cant_tell_alt
Fantastic performance Shake, Thanks!
..I'll second that. Great selections and tight as a drum.
jeff
Anton Banks (www.antonbanks.com) wrote:
I don't know if this has been posted already. It looked pretty interesting.
http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/
Cool. I used to have one of these and I always wanted to know more about it.
I wonder which school will receive this 'large percentage' of the
proceeds?
Just a guess - isn't there a Max Fisher school of that sort?
jeff
on a more local (Detroit) tip, it looks like Carl has something at the
Cityfest (used to be Tatsefest?) either on or close to July 4th.
jeff
Nik Stoltzman wrote:
Wotcha.
Just thought I'd stick my head above the parapet to say that on next week's
Gilles Peterson
shake looked confused and should
not have tried playing with the onboard effects if he didn't know how.
Let the hating begin!
Looks like it's already started. I'm wondering how you know he was
confused and not frustrated by the well documented effects of MS on his
motor skills. From where
jwan allen wrote:
Sarcasm from Greek σαρκασμός (sarkasmos), 'mockery, sarcasm' is
sneering, jesting, or mocking at a person, situation or thing.
It actually breaks down into 'flesh-biting'.
I was a Greek major in a former matriculation. ;-)
jeff
Thanks for posting that. Likewise to Tom who said something similar
(maybe offlist).
I know you're lurking, Tony.
You do something beyond slick mechanics; it's a gift and it's yours.
jeff
Terry Hall wrote:
Regarding Shake's performance - I think it just shows
There used to be a lot of laws in Britain about bear-baiting.
I wonder if any of those can be applied to Tiesto baiting.
jeff
You're right Kent. Still, there's nothing like a bit of Tiesto baiting
to brighten up the day.
Honestly this is
The best use of that system was Higher Intelligence Agency, followed by
RS. Bobby Bird's set was made for that system. Von Oswald took some
time checking it out as they began and it showed. After that it seemed
like whomever was tweaking it forgot it wasn't mono after they got
hypnotized by
Robert Taylor wrote:
Is it too much to hope for a Tiesto beheading?
Now now.
(admittedly, I *was* thinking something similar when I saw that ;-).
The sound of one high-hat clapping.
jeff
Martin Dust wrote:
On 29 May 2007, at 18:21, theREALmxyzptlk wrote:
Robert Taylor wrote:
Is it too much to hope for a Tiesto beheading?
Now now.
(admittedly, I *was* thinking something similar when I saw that ;-).
Wouldn't
...except for tea-time. ;-)
jeff (should not be near electrical objects for a while)
Yes you do, we're never serious!
Hey just making sure, you never know with you british ppl :)
Er, I wasn't serious, KJ
Just a heads up - Mr. Trommer has a new/free/downloadable release at
Thinner, which I am just now grabbing myself.
http://thinner.cc/releases.php?r=thn094
Great stuff indeed. Moves in a few directions - if it isn't 313 enough
for you, give it a few tracks...
jeff
pauley wrote:
Were there any thoughts about this free release here? Didn't see much
comment, but was wondering what the 'concensus' was, if any. Listening to
it now, a
Just a tardy 'second' to the recommendation for this one. Great mixing,
killer track selection - classic U.R. and Bridgette/Submariner had it on
my doorstep in less than 36 hours from ordering with her typical
friendly demeanor. Spot-on call on this one.
jeff
i'm also shocked to never have heard a peep about the Ai sidelabel RUR on here
-- first release limited to 100 copies, can only be had direct, is $45...and is
supposedly by juan atkins (officially is anonymous/untitled)...hrmpmhpmph i
wonder if i'll ever get to hear it. i wonder if anybody
Ah - the old 'extended devil-lock'.
Quite the rage back then and Mr. Oakey might have even been a bit late
on the bus with that one. What needs to be appreciated is how much of a
PITA it is having to deal with it in your eyes/face all of the time (and
it was part of the look to have it hanging
..but as a Metro Detroit suburbanite, I don't know what to recommend in
terms of clean/walking distance hotels for DEMF (I have friends who are
asking). The wise thing, it seems to me, would be to ask people who have
stayed in a few. So...what say ye? (other than the RenCen, which is
obvious)
Jeffrey Richards wrote:
DJ HMC surely would make Outback Steakhouse a much
better place!
Yeah...but so would a wrecking ball. ;-)
jeff
My KDJ is en route, but I will handily second the Patrice Scott.
jeff
that KDJ is teh bomb, and so is that patrice scott. i need to get this
#2 of his asap. only recently got #1 and im still loving it!
kent williams wrote:
So what's up with this? Are they moving? Did she get canceled? What
will Liz do now?
Another inquiring mind here - ditto on Rob's laudations.
j
Just out of curiosity (not attempting to engineer conflict), I'd like to
hear what people think of the release in the subject line - preferably
those who have had the opportunity the hear the ENTIRE track or record,
as I find that these tracks need to open up to be heard (as opposed to
30
this stuff wasnt created in a
vacuum, it originally involved making songs to fit in deejay sets with
other music like disco, new wave, electro, italo, etc. i dont think
songs in those genres are hard to understand outside of people
intimately familiar with the genre, and a good techno or house
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
On 3/28/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Play it for a typical country music fan.
Let me know how it goes. ;-)
---
but what is a typical country music fan? nowadays country music is
more bad pop than country. i see people at school
noodling around
with mapping midi nonsense has nothing to do with performing music.
Eh - neither does hooking up cables, tuning strings or any number of
things which are analagous with any instrument.
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