Re: More Engine quesitons

2019-04-24 Thread Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech
Chip, This is documented in the 4D Design Reference>Finalizing and deploying final applicateions>Customizing a stand-alone application icon. See: https://docs.4d.com/4Dv17/4D/17.1/Customizing-a-stand-alone-application-icon.300-4201096.en.html HTH Koen > Op 24 apr. 2019, om 20:17 heeft

Re: 4D Security White Paper

2019-04-24 Thread Ronnie Teo via 4D_Tech
Thanks for your input, Jody. Regards, Ronnie > On 24 Apr 2019, at 9:29 PM, 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com wrote: > > From: Jody Bevan mailto:jody.be...@gmail.com>> > To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > Subject: Re: 4D Security White Paper > Message-ID:

RE: -1 undefined database event

2019-04-24 Thread David Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech
Kirk, This seems like it may be the cause! I’ll check this out!! THANKS!!! David Ringsmuth From: Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 4:38 PM To: 4D iNug Technical Cc: Kirk Brooks Subject: Re: -1 undefined database event David, On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 2:23 PM David

RE: -1 undefined database event

2019-04-24 Thread David Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech
Chip, The data file is in use by 20+ people who are updating it. It can’t be in read-only. The system automatically runs a full validate data file every night, and also verifies every index value is correct. I don’t think the record is damaged, but I had not thought of that! Thanks! David

Re: Custom Form Events

2019-04-24 Thread Chris Belanger via 4D_Tech
Hi Kirk, to explain what I want to have ‘custom events’ for, I think Justin Carr’s comment on this thread gives some good reason — to do processing after an on LOAD that cannot be done during that event since many objects on the form do not exist at the time of on load. In my efforts to

Re: Custom Form Events

2019-04-24 Thread Chris Belanger via 4D_Tech
Hi Justin, Thanks for the observations. I never thought about using a SET TIMER(-1) to make something run immediately after On Load is done. It is true that many objects are not ‘existent’ by the On Load cycle and that causes me some problems in trying to make code that is as generic as

Re: [OFF] The Death of Sebastian...

2019-04-24 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech
Robert: Sorry to hear this. Pets can be the most important beings in our lives. So sad for your loss. Jody > On Apr 24, 2019, at 7:01 PM, Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Sadly I returned home, from two back to back trips (National Association of >

[OFF] The Death of Sebastian...

2019-04-24 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Sadly I returned home, from two back to back trips (National Association of Broadcasters & MotoGP), to find my beloved cat (Sebastian), the coolest cat that ever lived, died unexpectedly while I was at MOTOGP on Sunday... I’m so devastated that I did not see him for 8 days straight and that my

Re: Code signing works on one app but fails on another

2019-04-24 Thread Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech
Hi Jim, I ran the following in Terminal to check it: codesign -dv /Users/patbensky/CatBase\ dev/CatBase\ v8/Final\ Application/CatBase\ 8.app and this is the result: Executable=/Users/patbensky/CatBase dev/CatBase v8/Final Application/CatBase 8.app/Contents/MacOS/CatBase 8

Re: Code signing works on one app but fails on another

2019-04-24 Thread Jim Crate via 4D_Tech
Are you sure the app is signed correctly? Sometimes an app with invalid signature will launch until it is downloaded from the internet (downloading sets the quarantine flag). I use these commands after signing to double-check that signing worked properly: spctl -av "$appPath" codesign

Re: -1 undefined database event

2019-04-24 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
David, On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 2:23 PM David Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > The message says the record is locked, but 4D’s Locked($pTable->) returns > false, and so does 4D’s Read only state($pTable->). > > Under what circumstances would this happen? > If you are using

Re: -1 undefined database event

2019-04-24 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
immediate thoughts: - the data file it self is read only. -- due to file access permissions (from the OS) -- the data file is open by another copy of the structure -- the record (or more) are damaged in some manner (run MSC) Chip On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:23:09 -0500, David Ringsmuth via

-1 undefined database event

2019-04-24 Thread David Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech
The message says the record is locked, but 4D’s Locked($pTable->) returns false, and so does 4D’s Read only state($pTable->). Under what circumstances would this happen? Undefined Database Event.[-1] in the method 'Save_Record', on line 50. Method: Save_Record Line: 50 1066: dbmg: Record is

Re: 4D 17.1 network issues

2019-04-24 Thread Charles Miller via 4D_Tech
If it shows as active, that may be part of the problem. I found many moons ago similar issues when one of my customers had new server with to NIC cards. It seems what happens is that client connects to 1, inactive for period of time, goes back and tries using 2, crash just as you are having. There

Re: 4D 17.1 network issues

2019-04-24 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
A client of mine has hit this very issue. He writes: >> In addition to the dropped connections, it has also been reported 4D will freeze up for a brief period and become unresponsive, then after about 15-20 seconds will begin responding again. No problems like this reported with 16.4 on the same

Re: More Engine quesitons

2019-04-24 Thread Compass - Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech
Hi Chip, Yes. You have to place an icon file next to your structure file having the same name as your .4DB. Groeten, Koen Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone X > Op 24 apr. 2019 om 20:11 heeft Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven: > > Custom desktop icon. > >

More Engine quesitons

2019-04-24 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Custom desktop icon. Is there a way to get the icon to 'stick'? i.e. apply the icon in such a way that when I rebuild the app I do not have to manually place it. Thanks Chip --- Gas is for washing parts Alcohol is for drinkin' Nitromethane is for racing

Re: 4D 17.1 network issues

2019-04-24 Thread Ken Geiger Gmail via 4D_Tech
169.x.x.x is a self-assigned IP. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 4:06 PM John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > >> No, just Ethernet is enabled. WiFi and the other

Re: Engined App

2019-04-24 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Thanks - not happening :) CHip On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 09:46:52 -0700, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech wrote: > Chip: > > That’s a licensing issue. I checked a few years back and the price was $3k. > > -- > Douglas von Roeder > 949-336-2902 > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 9:43 AM Chip Scheide via

Re: Code signing works on one app but fails on another

2019-04-24 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
compress the dmg (zip it) before uploading to dropbox? On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:42:10 +0100, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech wrote: > Actually it doesn't seem to be working ... it seems to corrupt the app in > some way. > It's quite bizarre ... I compile the app, sign it using Miyako's code, and > create a

Re: Code signing works on one app but fails on another

2019-04-24 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech
Pat: I use DropBox for this every week. When I bill a .dmg file I upload to Dropbox and for about that last 6 months, when it is downloaded by others it works fine. Just of note I use DMG Canvas. That should not matter, but it is a point of difference. Jody > On Apr 24, 2019, at 10:42 AM,

Re: Engined App

2019-04-24 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
Chip: That’s a licensing issue. I checked a few years back and the price was $3k. -- Douglas von Roeder 949-336-2902 On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 9:43 AM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Can the 'splash' on exit of an engined application be removed? > > Chip >

Engined App

2019-04-24 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Can the 'splash' on exit of an engined application be removed? Chip --- Gas is for washing parts Alcohol is for drinkin' Nitromethane is for racing ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive:

Re: Code signing works on one app but fails on another

2019-04-24 Thread Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech
Actually it doesn't seem to be working ... it seems to corrupt the app in some way. It's quite bizarre ... I compile the app, sign it using Miyako's code, and create a disk image using DropDMG. I check it by mounting the disk image and installing the app. It runs OK. Then I upload it to DropBox.

Re: Listbox data type

2019-04-24 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Thanks. No - And BTW selection listbox is longint (not an array) :) Chip On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 10:55:24 -0400, Doug Cottrill via 4D_Tech wrote: > > One other thought- is there an Array Real with the same name as your > listbox somewhere else in your DB? > > DKC > >> On Apr 24, 2019, at 10:53

Re: Listbox data type

2019-04-24 Thread Doug Cottrill via 4D_Tech
One other thought- is there an Array Real with the same name as your listbox somewhere else in your DB? DKC > On Apr 24, 2019, at 10:53 AM, Doug Cottrill via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Chip, > > I can’t say for sure why it’s happening- it frankly sounds like a bug. >

Re: 4D 17.1 network issues

2019-04-24 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
Hi Spencer, > On Apr 24, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Spencer Hinsdale wrote: > > If you go to Apple menu, System Preferences on the mini, for Network do you > see more than one green dot? Each is separate network connection, where you > can click Advanced and go to TCP/IP tab for details. Is not

Re: 4D 17.1 network issues

2019-04-24 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
John, did you turn off App Nap? Chip On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 06:54:15 -0500, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech wrote: > Since I upgraded from 16.4 to 17.1 (all Mac), users have been > complaining about 4D Client disconnects. Messages like: > > "The current connection to the database has been disrupted. >

4D Authentication with SharePoint Online -- FedAuth cookie

2019-04-24 Thread Mike Beatty via 4D_Tech
All- Trying to connect 4D to a Sharepoint Online repository. I can get there, but part of the process is to capture a “BinarySecurityToken”, then use that to populate a second request to capture the “FedAuth” cookie. The problem we are running into is that although the connection seems

Re: 4D v17 R5 file and folder objects !!!

2019-04-24 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech
Jeff: LOL. Is that like find a Millennial that can jump in a Land Rover Defender and drive because they understands no keyless entry, need a key to start it, 2 stick shifts with 12 gears and differential lock, and hand crank down windows. Oh, yes one that I found is true. They do not know how

Re: 4D Security White Paper

2019-04-24 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech
As with all security anything can be hacked given time, money, and desire. First of all, social hacking is the most likely cause of leaked data. So moving on, to other types. If someone really wants your data they might steal your server computer. In days gone by if you didn’t know the

4D 17.1 network issues

2019-04-24 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
Since I upgraded from 16.4 to 17.1 (all Mac), users have been complaining about 4D Client disconnects. Messages like: "The current connection to the database has been disrupted. Connection error with the server. Please restart the application." "Unknown Error. Connection error with the server.

Re: 4D v17 R5 file and folder objects !!!

2019-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
Time references for documents are a good weed-out mechanism - if you can find a millennial who just gets it, you have a keeper... :) > On Apr 24, 2019, at 2:51 AM, Bruno LEGAY via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > I just noticed in 4D v17 R5 the new file and folder objets...