OK to Create V12 Built Server for OS X on OS X 10.13
I have a client who's using 4D Server V12.6 on a Mac Pro running OS X 10.6. The application is deployed using the built client and built server applications. To date, I've been creating the applications on a Mac that's running 10.11.6 but I'd like to switch to a machine that's using 10.13. I realize that the certification matrix for V12.6 stops at 10.9 but I've had no reports of issues doing builds on 10.11. I'm wondering if there will be issues with doing my builds on 10.13. Anyone have experience with this or could, perhaps, offer guidance on this topic? -- Douglas von Roeder 949-336-2902 ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: v13 - Null values
I meant - I was looking for a command which behaved like Nil(), but for Null. :) On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 17:26:26 +, Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech wrote: >> I was looking (in v13) for a boolean test like Nil(). > > Oh yeah, not sure how I missed that. Keep in mind that the Nil > command was renamed to "Is nil pointer" in v16R4 > http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Language-Reference-13.6/Language/Nil.301-2502515.en.html > http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Language-Reference-16-R4/Language/Is-nil-pointer.301-3317001.en.html > > > > -Tim > > > > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** --- Gas is for washing parts Alcohol is for drinkin' Nitromethane is for racing ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: v13 - Null values
> I was looking (in v13) for a boolean test like Nil(). Oh yeah, not sure how I missed that. Keep in mind that the Nil command was renamed to "Is nil pointer" in v16R4 http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Language-Reference-13.6/Language/Nil.301-2502515.en.html http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Language-Reference-16-R4/Language/Is-nil-pointer.301-3317001.en.html -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: v13 - Null values
Thanks I was looking (in v13) for a boolean test like Nil(). On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 17:10:32 +, Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech wrote: > Hi Chip, > >> Is there a means to test for a 'Null' value in v13? >> By 'Null' do not mean the default (type appropriate) value of an >> unassigned field or variable. >> If not, at what version does this capability exist? > > In v11 the commands SET FIELD VALUE NULL and IS FIELD VALUE NULL were added: > http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Language-Reference-13.6/SQL/Is-field-value-Null.301-2502112.en.html > http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Language-Reference-13.6/SQL/SET-FIELD-VALUE-NULL.301-2502111.en.html > ^ These exist in v13. > > In v17 (v16R4) NULL was introduced as both a data type and a command: > https://blog.4d.com/new-type-supported-by-4d-null/ > http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16R4/4D/16-R4/Null.301-3428288.en.html > http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16R4/4D/16-R4/Data-Types.300-3317960.en.html#3428911 > > Hope that helps, > > -Tim > > > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** --- Gas is for washing parts Alcohol is for drinkin' Nitromethane is for racing ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: v13 - Null values
Hi Chip, > Is there a means to test for a 'Null' value in v13? > By 'Null' do not mean the default (type appropriate) value of an unassigned > field or variable. > If not, at what version does this capability exist? In v11 the commands SET FIELD VALUE NULL and IS FIELD VALUE NULL were added: http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Language-Reference-13.6/SQL/Is-field-value-Null.301-2502112.en.html http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Language-Reference-13.6/SQL/SET-FIELD-VALUE-NULL.301-2502111.en.html ^ These exist in v13. In v17 (v16R4) NULL was introduced as both a data type and a command: https://blog.4d.com/new-type-supported-by-4d-null/ http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16R4/4D/16-R4/Null.301-3428288.en.html http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16R4/4D/16-R4/Data-Types.300-3317960.en.html#3428911 Hope that helps, -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
v13 - Null values
Is there a means to test for a 'Null' value in v13? By 'Null' do not mean the default (type appropriate) value of an unassigned field or variable. If not, at what version does this capability exist? Thanks Chip --- Gas is for washing parts Alcohol is for drinkin' Nitromethane is for racing ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Backup Settings window
Pat, Mac (sound like a permissions issue): The backup settings file is saved inside the database (Show package contents on a Mac) If the stand alone app is in the Applications folder it is likely the user does not have permission to write to this area. one solution might be to create an 'applications' directory inside the user's directory and put the stand alone app there. Windows (i am much less certain): - permissions (as above) the user may not have permission to write into the program files directory - Windows does some weird things with indirection in an attempt to keep malware from working, which as a side effect also makes many legitimate program not work correctly (but I diregress)... I do not remember where it is but windows will redirect applications to an alternate directory (a sandbox if you will) and you might be running onto this. As I recall the not everything gets redirected so 4D maybe trying to get/save the backup information from the program files directory BUT the application is actually running from the 'sandbox' (or vise versa); either way the directory (or entire path) that 4D is trying to use to read/save backup and resource information may not exist. Chip On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 09:50:58 +0100, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech wrote: > I've just upgraded a client's custom database to v16. > I compile it and build a stand-alone single-user app. > When I launch this app, the Backup settings window opens with the window > title ":StrLang,61". > No matter what settings I choose, when I click the Save button I get the > message: > > *Backup settings not saved.* > *Preferences path not found.* > *No Backup XML file was opened.* > > I've tried various backup settings but I always get the same result. > I've tried with v16.3 and with v16r6 - same result. > In the Database Settings, on the Backup tab, I selected *Never* for > Automatic Backup but that did not fix the problem. > > Want would be causing this? > > PB > > -- > * > CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing > tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 > w: http://www.catbase.com > skype: pat.bensky > * > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** --- Gas is for washing parts Alcohol is for drinkin' Nitromethane is for racing ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Backup Settings window
seems like a Resource error. assuming you are on macOS, maybe a fix is to Build using 32-bit Volume Desktop -spencer > On Jun 1, 2018, at 1:50 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I've just upgraded a client's custom database to v16. > I compile it and build a stand-alone single-user app. > When I launch this app, the Backup settings window opens with the window > title ":StrLang,61". > No matter what settings I choose, when I click the Save button I get the > message: > > *Backup settings not saved.* > *Preferences path not found.* > *No Backup XML file was opened.* > > I've tried various backup settings but I always get the same result. > I've tried with v16.3 and with v16r6 - same result. > In the Database Settings, on the Backup tab, I selected *Never* for > Automatic Backup but that did not fix the problem. > > Want would be causing this? > > PB > > -- > * > CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing > tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 > w: http://www.catbase.com > skype: pat.bensky > * > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Backup Settings window
I've just upgraded a client's custom database to v16. I compile it and build a stand-alone single-user app. When I launch this app, the Backup settings window opens with the window title ":StrLang,61". No matter what settings I choose, when I click the Save button I get the message: *Backup settings not saved.* *Preferences path not found.* *No Backup XML file was opened.* I've tried various backup settings but I always get the same result. I've tried with v16.3 and with v16r6 - same result. In the Database Settings, on the Backup tab, I selected *Never* for Automatic Backup but that did not fix the problem. Want would be causing this? PB -- * CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 w: http://www.catbase.com skype: pat.bensky * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
