Re: Intermittent 4D Server / System crashes

2018-01-29 Thread Bernd Fröhlich via 4D_Tech 
Mitchell Shiller:

> 4D Server 16.2
> Mac OS  10.13.2 running on a MacMini (Late 2014) 8GB RAM
> External RAID 0+1 Samsung SSD. Using SoftRaid XT 
> 
> Only applications running are:
> 4D Server (no stored procedures), 15 users
> Carbon Copy Cloner 5.05 (latest) scheduled to run every hour except from 
> 22:00 - 6:00 when there are no users logged in)
> Retrospect Client (14.6.0.127 latest) (which backs up a second attached drive 
> that contains the 4D backup files at 23:00)
> 
> I have been having  intermittent system crashes. These happen every 2-5 
> days.. Never when the system is in use. (8-21:00) Usually  early in the 
> morning long after Retrospect has run. Retrospect Client takes about 15-30 to 
> back up to our main Server. 
> I get the spinning beach ball of death. So it is not just a 4D crash.  
> Nothing is responsive. The computer requires a hard reboot to get going again 
> and then I am fine for 2-5 days.
> Usually no users are logged in at the time.
> 
> In the console I get the following information from the most recent 2 crashes;
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2xejz2dehwqf3wu/AADcablM2L7vzu8uLRxY0-Hxa?dl=0
> 
> I have tested the disk integrity, RAM integrity. All OK. I changed to a new 
> computer with no change.
> The previous computer was running 10.12
> I contacted the SoftRaid support who downloaded  a crash report and stated 
> that the crash is not happening with a disk access to the RAID system.
> 
> 
> Any idea what the next step should be?


Hi Mitchell,

we had almost the same problem over here with the same hard- and software 
(minus the raid. Just a mini with High Sierra).
It was not the beachball of death but 4D Server just crashed every few days 
without any pattern (sometimes at night, sometimes during the day).
We tried everything to no avail.
What finally worked was to go back to El Capitan on the Server.
From then on we had no more crashes (you could try Sierra, maybe that would 
work too).
Must be some incompatibility of 4D V16 with High Sierra.

Greetings from Germany,
Bernd Fröhlich
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Re: Win32API 8.1.2 gui_GetWindowEx("") in v16r5

2018-01-29 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
if you just need to get the coordinates then the native command should do the 
job

http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16/4D/16.3/GET-WINDOW-RECT.301-3651735.en.html

else

https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-mdi

or

https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-window-control



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Re: Win32API 8.1.2 gui_GetWindowEx("") in v16r5

2018-01-29 Thread Peter Hay via 4D_Tech 
Hi Jason,

I logged an issue about this with Orchard about a year ago;
https://github.com/OrchardSoftware/4D-Win32API/issues/24

From what they say, it's a 4D Plugin SDK issue and there's a work around,
but Orchard doesn't seem to have implemented it yet.

I haven't hassled them about it, because it's a free plugin, and I'm very
grateful for it.  I'm sure they'll get around to fixing it when they can.

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Re: 10.13.2 running on a MacMini (Late 2014) 8GB RAM External RAID 0+1 Samsung SSD. Using SoftRaid XT

2018-01-29 Thread Jim Dorrance via 4D_Tech 
Find a mac mini late 2012 i7 with ssd and 16 gb ram

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> On Jan 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Mitchell Shiller wrote:
>
> > 4D Server 16.2
> > Mac OS  10.13.2 running on a MacMini (Late 2014) 8GB RAM
> > External RAID 0+1 Samsung SSD. Using SoftRaid XT
> >
> > Only applications running are:
> > 4D Server (no stored procedures), 15 users
> > Carbon Copy Cloner 5.05 (latest) scheduled to run every hour except from
> 22:00 - 6:00 when there are no users logged in)
> > Retrospect Client (14.6.0.127 latest) (which backs up a second attached
> drive that contains the 4D backup files at 23:00)
> >
> > I have been having  intermittent system crashes. These happen every 2-5
> days.. Never when the system is in use. (8-21:00) Usually  early in the
> morning long after Retrospect has run. Retrospect Client takes about 15-30
> to back up to our main Server.
> > I get the spinning beach ball of death. So it is not just a 4D crash.
> Nothing is responsive. The computer requires a hard reboot to get going
> again and then I am fine for 2-5 days.
> > Usually no users are logged in at the time.
> >
> > In the console I get the following information from the most recent 2
> crashes;
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2xejz2dehwqf3wu/
> AADcablM2L7vzu8uLRxY0-Hxa?dl=0  2xejz2dehwqf3wu/AADcablM2L7vzu8uLRxY0-Hxa?dl=0>
> >
> > I have tested the disk integrity, RAM integrity. All OK. I changed to a
> new computer with no change.
> > The previous computer was running 10.12
> > I contacted the SoftRaid support who downloaded  a crash report and
> stated that the crash is not happening with a disk access to the RAID
> system.
> >
> > Any idea what the next step should be?
>
>
> I would use the “Console” and see what messages were happening around the
> time it goes crazy. Start by checking “Errors and Faults” in the Favorites
> bar.  Then resort to “All Messages” to see everything.
>
> Could be some messages there will give you an idea of what’s going on. I
> had a problem years about on a Mac Pro server machine that would sometimes
> go deaf. Very random. Some morning people would come to work and try to log
> into the database and couldn’t. They’d go check the server and it would be
> frozen. I tracked it down by checking the Console for messages.
>
> I would immediately restart the server and the immediately go check
> Console and scroll back up until I got to log entries just before the
> restart. It turned out to be a memory issue. The machine was running low on
> RAM and would get into a page swap problem and never recover. There was a
> message in the Console about “low memory” and then just a few messages
> after that and it was dead. The fix was easy. Install another 8GB of RAM in
> the machine.
>
> Sad news is I don’t think your Mac Mini is RAM upgradable. You buy it with
> either 8GB of 16GB and that’s it.
>
> Tim
>
> Tim Nevels
> timnev...@mac.com 
> Innovative Solutions
> 785-749-3444
>
>
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Re: 10.13.2 running on a MacMini (Late 2014) 8GB RAM External RAID 0+1 Samsung SSD. Using SoftRaid XT

2018-01-29 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech 
On Jan 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Mitchell Shiller wrote:

> 4D Server 16.2
> Mac OS  10.13.2 running on a MacMini (Late 2014) 8GB RAM
> External RAID 0+1 Samsung SSD. Using SoftRaid XT 
> 
> Only applications running are:
> 4D Server (no stored procedures), 15 users
> Carbon Copy Cloner 5.05 (latest) scheduled to run every hour except from 
> 22:00 - 6:00 when there are no users logged in)
> Retrospect Client (14.6.0.127 latest) (which backs up a second attached drive 
> that contains the 4D backup files at 23:00)
> 
> I have been having  intermittent system crashes. These happen every 2-5 
> days.. Never when the system is in use. (8-21:00) Usually  early in the 
> morning long after Retrospect has run. Retrospect Client takes about 15-30 to 
> back up to our main Server. 
> I get the spinning beach ball of death. So it is not just a 4D crash.  
> Nothing is responsive. The computer requires a hard reboot to get going again 
> and then I am fine for 2-5 days.
> Usually no users are logged in at the time.
> 
> In the console I get the following information from the most recent 2 crashes;
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2xejz2dehwqf3wu/AADcablM2L7vzu8uLRxY0-Hxa?dl=0 
> 
> 
> I have tested the disk integrity, RAM integrity. All OK. I changed to a new 
> computer with no change.
> The previous computer was running 10.12
> I contacted the SoftRaid support who downloaded  a crash report and stated 
> that the crash is not happening with a disk access to the RAID system.
> 
> Any idea what the next step should be?


I would use the “Console” and see what messages were happening around the time 
it goes crazy. Start by checking “Errors and Faults” in the Favorites bar.  
Then resort to “All Messages” to see everything. 

Could be some messages there will give you an idea of what’s going on. I had a 
problem years about on a Mac Pro server machine that would sometimes go deaf. 
Very random. Some morning people would come to work and try to log into the 
database and couldn’t. They’d go check the server and it would be frozen. I 
tracked it down by checking the Console for messages. 

I would immediately restart the server and the immediately go check Console and 
scroll back up until I got to log entries just before the restart. It turned 
out to be a memory issue. The machine was running low on RAM and would get into 
a page swap problem and never recover. There was a message in the Console about 
“low memory” and then just a few messages after that and it was dead. The fix 
was easy. Install another 8GB of RAM in the machine.  

Sad news is I don’t think your Mac Mini is RAM upgradable. You buy it with 
either 8GB of 16GB and that’s it. 

Tim

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timnev...@mac.com 
Innovative Solutions
785-749-3444


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Re: v13 - Number of field/array pairs for selection to array

2018-01-29 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech 
Chip:

Perhaps the optional asterisk has removed that limit?


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On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> I seem to remember that there is limit of 256 pairs for this command.
>
> I am building the command in text to be used by Execute Formula, I want
> to be sure that I do not exceed the maximum number of pairs allowed.
>
> Thanks
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Re: Win32API 8.1.2 gui_GetWindowEx("") in v16r5

2018-01-29 Thread JasonH via 4D_Tech 
FYI, using version 8.2.1 of Win32API



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Win32API 8.1.2 gui_GetWindowEx("") in v16r5

2018-01-29 Thread Jason Hect via 4D_Tech 

Just tried moving my database over from v15 to v16r5 (windows/server).  I use 
the Win32API plugin command gui_getWindowEx("") to determine the overall size 
of the 4D main window, and scale my windows accordingly.  The command is 
returning -3 in v16r5. 

Is there a work around, or plans to update the plugin? 

Thanks! 
Jason 
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v13 - Number of field/array pairs for selection to array

2018-01-29 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech 
I seem to remember that there is limit of 256 pairs for this command.

I am building the command in text to be used by Execute Formula, I want 
to be sure that I do not exceed the maximum number of pairs allowed.

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Re: 4D v13 and Windows 10

2018-01-29 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech 
Thanks, Alan!

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> On Jan 28, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Alan Chan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> We don't know about 13.5. However, with 13.6, we haven't encountered any 
> issue on Windows 10 so far.
> 
> Alan Chan

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