Re: 4D v17 Property List Issues - is this only me?

2019-10-02 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
what if you create a new user account on the same Mac, login as the other user, and use 4D from that Desktop? I ask, because I've had similar experiences with M. Excel in the past, where (maybe) the preferences info plist file or some other support file was corrupt in my primary account.

Re: Foundation Shell

2019-10-02 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
James: I hope that works out. Please keep us posted. Foundation is part of the 4D ecosystem and it would be good to know its status. -- Douglas von Roeder 949-910-4084 On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 2:39 PM James Wright wrote: > Thanks Douglas, > > I've reached out to Walt. > > Best > > James. > >

Re: Foundation Shell

2019-10-02 Thread James Wright via 4D_Tech
Thanks Douglas, I've reached out to Walt. Best James. On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 20:59, Douglas von Roeder wrote: > James: > > Sorry to see that the website is no longer active. > > The only email address that I’ve got for Walt is Foundation Walt < > w...@foundationshell.com>. > > If Foundation

Re: Difference between loading a compiled and interpreted component

2019-10-02 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
I just finished checking all custom constants for: duplication between component and host custom constants as well as checking the custom constants against duplication of 4D constants, host and component method names No duplication was found. still looking for ideas CHip On Wed, 2 Oct 2019

Re: Foundation Shell

2019-10-02 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
James: Sorry to see that the website is no longer active. The only email address that I’ve got for Walt is Foundation Walt < w...@foundationshell.com>. If Foundation is no longer available on a commercial basis, perhaps Walt would provide you with a license at no charge. -- Douglas von Roeder

Re: v15 - automatted primary key for new tables

2019-10-02 Thread Narinder Chandi via 4D_Tech
This is standard since v14. From the docs: "Note: Starting with 4D v14, any new table created in the database contains a primary key field by default. For more information about this, refer to Default primary key field."

v15 - automatted primary key for new tables

2019-10-02 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
I am going to ignore the problem I have been having and start a new project. I created a new database, and added a table. the new table automatically added a primary key field Where is this setting/option accessed? maybe this is the issue I am having? Chip --- Gas is for washing

Re: Difference between loading a compiled and interpreted component

2019-10-02 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Beat you to that idea I have done a check for that. symbol tables from both host and component cross checked against the other's methods On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 20:11:18 +0200, Peter Bozek wrote: > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 7:37 PM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >>

Re: Difference between loading a compiled and interpreted component

2019-10-02 Thread Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 7:37 PM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Repair, Compact, Repair of Host structure, and Repair of Host data file > Does not solve the problem. > > Chip > This is rather very far-fetched idea, but once I run into similar problems when I had a

Re: Difference between loading a compiled and interpreted component

2019-10-02 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Repair, Compact, Repair of Host structure, and Repair of Host data file Does not solve the problem. Chip P.S >and there are no variables in > the host which have a host method name. Should read: and there are no variables in the component which have a host method name. On Wed, 2 Oct 2019

Re: Difference between loading a compiled and interpreted component

2019-10-02 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
I also created the symbol table for both host and component, and checked that there are no variables which have the same name as any method in both. I.E. there are no variables in the Host which have the same name as either the host, or component's methods, and there are no variables in the

Re: Web aficionados - Not allow user to access file directly

2019-10-02 Thread Tom DeMeo via 4D_Tech
Hi, A few commenters have suggested placing a 4D Web server behind a proxy server. The problem as described can be very easily solved with very little change in complexity and without involving other technologies. One of the reasons we all use 4D is that it allows us to solve problems with

Re: v15 - what code runs before On Startup?

2019-10-02 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
Hi chip This is what I would do I would create a new component. I would open old component with problem and move half of the methods in. Try and run with that if it works I would quit and move half the remaining methods. Continue to do this until you find the offending one Regards Chuck

Re: v15 - what code runs before On Startup?

2019-10-02 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
That occurred to me... there are no startup method specified for any user. To insure this - for the user I am logging into the system with, I cleared (delete key x ???) the startup method field Chip On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 14:54:37 +, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech wrote: > also there can be

Re: v15 - what code runs before On Startup?

2019-10-02 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
I did not think so - but I checked... There is no method 'Startup', although there are methods in both host and component which contain the word 'Startup'; ex: strt_SingleUser_Client_Startup There are no methods in either host of component which are or contain 'debut' Chip On Wed, 2 Oct

Re: v15 - what code runs before On Startup?

2019-10-02 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
also there can be per-user startup methods defined (see Toolbox, Users) > 2019/10/02 23:38、Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール: > > deprecated in recent versions, > but a project method named "startup" or "debut" is reserved (v3 startup > procedure) > in legacy databases.

Re: 4D v17 Property List Issues - is this only me?

2019-10-02 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
is this in project mode or binary structure mode? the project mode property list / form editor is still in beta. > 2019/10/02 0:44、Daniel Solenthaler via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール: > > In 4D v17R5 I click onto a cell of the property list and nothing happens. It > takes 3 seconds and a

Re: v15 - what code runs before On Startup?

2019-10-02 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
deprecated in recent versions, but a project method named "startup" or "debut" is reserved (v3 startup procedure) in legacy databases. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options:

Re: Difference between loading a compiled and interpreted component

2019-10-02 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
good idea! I'll try and report back THANKS! On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 14:36:05 +, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech wrote: > I don't think the events are relevant in this instance. > > what if you create a copy of the component and make all methods > private (don't share with host) ? > > would you still

Re: Difference between loading a compiled and interpreted component

2019-10-02 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
I don't think the events are relevant in this instance. what if you create a copy of the component and make all methods private (don't share with host) ? would you still get the error? if the error stops, you know that a shared method is being invoked. in that case, you can add a trace at the

Re: v12 and El Capitan ?

2019-10-02 Thread Janie Marlow via 4D_Tech
Thank you, Chip. That is very helpful to know. I'm pretty sure that I remember others on this list who have mentioned that they have used v12 on 10.11. I would really like to hear from some of them too - Wonder, has anybody out there done any development with v12 on 10.11, and what kinds of

Foundation Shell

2019-10-02 Thread James Wright via 4D_Tech
Hi Folks, Looking to start a new desktop project (Who would've thought!). In the past I used Foundation Shell, it was awesome. I noticed the site isn't active anymore, can anyone recommend an alternative? Or do I have to roll my own? v17. Thanks James. -- [image: logo] *James Wright*

Re: Difference between loading a compiled and interpreted component

2019-10-02 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
> perhaps you can export the symbols file and see if there are any > global symbols (process variable, project method) that could be > invoked unintentionally. > > it sounds like a method is being called recursively. I agree with this assessment - except - the stack overflow error occurs

Re: Difference between loading a compiled and interpreted component

2019-10-02 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
perhaps you can export the symbols file and see if there are any global symbols (process variable, project method) that could be invoked unintentionally. it sounds like a method is being called recursively. ** 4D Internet

Re: Web aficionados - Not allow user to access file directly

2019-10-02 Thread Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech
I place nginx as a proxy in front of 4d. Its very straightforward and can run on linux and windows. Nginx runs the public port and can serve all static resources images css etc. You can use lets encrypt for free ssl. This way the proxy to 4D can run on http to say port 8080 which is faster and 4D

Re: [repost - desperate]What runs before ON STARTUP?

2019-10-02 Thread Bernd Fröhlich via 4D_Tech
Chip Scheide: > Thanks! > I did use MCS to repair both the host and the component. > I removed both .indy files and tried again... > > Still not luck - still getting the stack space error. Have you tried as another user / on another computer? Just to make sure that it is not something in that