Re: 4D Write Pro User Documentation
On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Doug Hall wrote: > Is there a PDF or website where I can point my end users, that will tell > them how to use 4D Write Pro and the little widget that comes with it in > the Object Database? All I'm seeing is the developer documentation. I wish there was. I wish they included a little “i” widget in the 4D Write Pro toolbar that would take a user to a web page with fantastic, complete 4D Write Pro user documentation of how all the widgets in their provided UI. Then we would not have to do anything. Users could learn and explore the online documentation. I’ll try to remember to bring this up at 4D Summit this year and see if I can motivate 4D to provide a feature like this. User centric, user specific, online documentation of 4D Write Pro. Tim * Tim Nevels Innovative Solutions 785-749-3444 timnev...@mac.com * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE
Hello, PICT is a container format, it can contain either raster or vectorial images. it sounds like you have vectorial images. on Mac, you can use the command to convert PICT to PDF, which will result in "sharp" images. otherwise you need to scale up the image before converting it to a rasterised image such as PNG, TIF or JPG. > On Feb 7, 2020, at 2:00, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".TIF") > > I also get the same issue when trying to convert to jpg: > > CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".JPG") > > Any thoughts how I can best convert the images in my data file without losing > any quality? ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE
Hi Tom, I took a look at the methods that are available in the component you sent. It's not clear to me what I need to do in order to convert the image format of an image that is stored in a picture field. Is there any documentation available? Thanks again, Ken On 02/06/20 1:15 PM, Tom Benedict wrote: You should be able to automate conversion of most PICTs using JPR’s PICT_Convert. However, if you have static PICTs pasted directly onto forms, those will need to be individually visited. A v17 MSC log will give you a listing of those, I think. Tom Benedict On Feb 6, 2020, at 09:40, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: Hi Steve, I tried converting the images to .jpg. ipng and .tif using CONVERT PICTURE. Each format I tried resulted in blurry images. To follow up on your question... I opened up a window that displayed one of the images that is stored in a field. I copied the image into Preview on a Mac, then saved it as a .png file format. That worked fine. To verify, I then copied the .png image back into my 4D database and saved it. That image was also stored properly -- without being blurry. I have a work around for changing the format of the images, but I really don't want to do this one-by-one for each image that is in every customer database that will eventually need to be updated. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ken ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE
Thanks Steve. I appreciate your taking the time to help. On 02/06/20 1:25 PM, Stephen J. Orth wrote: Ken, The reason for my question was to determine if this was something related to the 4D command. If you can convert the image properly, external of 4D, then is seems to be something in the way 4D does the conversion. Unfortunately I have no suggestions because we always do image design/manipulation outside of 4D, so as to achieve the best image quality. Steve -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> On Behalf Of Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 11:41 AM To: '4D iNug Technical' <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: Ken Eyring Subject: Re: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE Hi Steve, I tried converting the images to .jpg. ipng and .tif using CONVERT PICTURE. Each format I tried resulted in blurry images. To follow up on your question... I opened up a window that displayed one of the images that is stored in a field. I copied the image into Preview on a Mac, then saved it as a .png file format. That worked fine. To verify, I then copied the .png image back into my 4D database and saved it. That image was also stored properly -- without being blurry. I have a work around for changing the format of the images, but I really don't want to do this one-by-one for each image that is in every customer database that will eventually need to be updated. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ken ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE
Ken, The reason for my question was to determine if this was something related to the 4D command. If you can convert the image properly, external of 4D, then is seems to be something in the way 4D does the conversion. Unfortunately I have no suggestions because we always do image design/manipulation outside of 4D, so as to achieve the best image quality. Steve -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> On Behalf Of Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 11:41 AM To: '4D iNug Technical' <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: Ken Eyring Subject: Re: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE Hi Steve, I tried converting the images to .jpg. ipng and .tif using CONVERT PICTURE. Each format I tried resulted in blurry images. To follow up on your question... I opened up a window that displayed one of the images that is stored in a field. I copied the image into Preview on a Mac, then saved it as a .png file format. That worked fine. To verify, I then copied the .png image back into my 4D database and saved it. That image was also stored properly -- without being blurry. I have a work around for changing the format of the images, but I really don't want to do this one-by-one for each image that is in every customer database that will eventually need to be updated. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ken ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE
You should be able to automate conversion of most PICTs using JPR’s PICT_Convert. However, if you have static PICTs pasted directly onto forms, those will need to be individually visited. A v17 MSC log will give you a listing of those, I think. Tom Benedict > On Feb 6, 2020, at 09:40, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > I tried converting the images to .jpg. ipng and .tif using CONVERT PICTURE. > Each format I tried resulted in blurry images. > > To follow up on your question... I opened up a window that displayed one of > the images that is stored in a field. I copied the image into Preview on a > Mac, then saved it as a .png file format. That worked fine. > > To verify, I then copied the .png image back into my 4D database and saved > it. That image was also stored properly -- without being blurry. > > I have a work around for changing the format of the images, but I really > don't want to do this one-by-one for each image that is in every customer > database that will eventually need to be updated. > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Ken > > > > > > On 02/06/20 12:07 PM, Stephen J. Orth wrote: >> Ken, >> Just curious... >> Do you get different results if you use a graphic's application for the >> conversion? >> Steve >> -Original Message- >> From: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> On Behalf Of Ken Eyring via >> 4D_Tech >> Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 11:00 AM >> To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com >> Cc: Ken Eyring >> Subject: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using >> CONVERT PICTURE >> I have a table that stores all of the images that are used on reports and >> labels, and some of them are PICT format. Since this format is not >> supported on 64-bit, I want to convert them in v15 prior to migrating over >> to v17 64-bit. However, when I call the following line of code, the >> resulting image is blurry. >> CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".TIF") >> I also get the same issue when trying to convert to jpg: >> CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".JPG") >> Any thoughts how I can best convert the images in my data file without >> losing any quality? >> Thanks, >> Ken ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE
I want to clarify a typo... The formats I tried to convert to were ".jpg", ".png", and ".tif". I wrote "ipng" below for "png" format. On 02/06/20 12:40 PM, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech wrote: Hi Steve, I tried converting the images to .jpg. ipng and .tif using CONVERT PICTURE. Each format I tried resulted in blurry images. To follow up on your question... I opened up a window that displayed one of the images that is stored in a field. I copied the image into Preview on a Mac, then saved it as a .png file format. That worked fine. To verify, I then copied the .png image back into my 4D database and saved it. That image was also stored properly -- without being blurry. I have a work around for changing the format of the images, but I really don't want to do this one-by-one for each image that is in every customer database that will eventually need to be updated. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ken On 02/06/20 12:07 PM, Stephen J. Orth wrote: Ken, Just curious... Do you get different results if you use a graphic's application for the conversion? Steve -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> On Behalf Of Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 11:00 AM To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com Cc: Ken Eyring Subject: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE I have a table that stores all of the images that are used on reports and labels, and some of them are PICT format. Since this format is not supported on 64-bit, I want to convert them in v15 prior to migrating over to v17 64-bit. However, when I call the following line of code, the resulting image is blurry. CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".TIF") I also get the same issue when trying to convert to jpg: CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".JPG") Any thoughts how I can best convert the images in my data file without losing any quality? Thanks, Ken ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE
Hi Steve, I tried converting the images to .jpg. ipng and .tif using CONVERT PICTURE. Each format I tried resulted in blurry images. To follow up on your question... I opened up a window that displayed one of the images that is stored in a field. I copied the image into Preview on a Mac, then saved it as a .png file format. That worked fine. To verify, I then copied the .png image back into my 4D database and saved it. That image was also stored properly -- without being blurry. I have a work around for changing the format of the images, but I really don't want to do this one-by-one for each image that is in every customer database that will eventually need to be updated. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ken On 02/06/20 12:07 PM, Stephen J. Orth wrote: Ken, Just curious... Do you get different results if you use a graphic's application for the conversion? Steve -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> On Behalf Of Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 11:00 AM To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com Cc: Ken Eyring Subject: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE I have a table that stores all of the images that are used on reports and labels, and some of them are PICT format. Since this format is not supported on 64-bit, I want to convert them in v15 prior to migrating over to v17 64-bit. However, when I call the following line of code, the resulting image is blurry. CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".TIF") I also get the same issue when trying to convert to jpg: CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".JPG") Any thoughts how I can best convert the images in my data file without losing any quality? Thanks, Ken ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE
Ken, Just curious... Do you get different results if you use a graphic's application for the conversion? Steve -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> On Behalf Of Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 11:00 AM To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com Cc: Ken Eyring Subject: Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE I have a table that stores all of the images that are used on reports and labels, and some of them are PICT format. Since this format is not supported on 64-bit, I want to convert them in v15 prior to migrating over to v17 64-bit. However, when I call the following line of code, the resulting image is blurry. CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".TIF") I also get the same issue when trying to convert to jpg: CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".JPG") Any thoughts how I can best convert the images in my data file without losing any quality? Thanks, Ken ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Poor Image Quality When Converting Pict Image to JPG and TIF Using CONVERT PICTURE
I have a table that stores all of the images that are used on reports and labels, and some of them are PICT format. Since this format is not supported on 64-bit, I want to convert them in v15 prior to migrating over to v17 64-bit. However, when I call the following line of code, the resulting image is blurry. CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".TIF") I also get the same issue when trying to convert to jpg: CONVERT PICTURE([Logos]Logo;".JPG") Any thoughts how I can best convert the images in my data file without losing any quality? Thanks, Ken ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: v18 and 4D Write Classic - does it work ?
Many thanks for that comprehensive and extensive commentary Tim ! Looks like I have my work cut out. All the 4D Write code I have is in a component and the component makes around 30 calls or so to 4D Write. There’s no raw host calls anywhere. Hopefully it will be do-able but will take your advice and read the manuals in depth. Thanks again ! Regards Peter > On 5 Feb 2020, at 16:07, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Warning: You may not going like what I have to say below ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write Pro User Documentation
There is a V17 write pro pdf , I agree can't find it. 4D documentation is a mess at the moment. I spent hours yesterday wading through the new dev.docs site the old knowledge base, tech cases, blog etc trying to establish if anything changed with components and the new project database. Very inconsistent. Paul -- Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
