Re: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Luc Devar wrote: > I certainly hope we can open/save .docx document with 4D Write Pro in a near > future as this is mandatory for me also. I have an application install on > several sites that write contracts from clauses stored in a 4D DB and I need > to use 4D write and compatibility with MSWord is a must. Right now being > compatible with .doc document only is already a problem. The 4D people say that we should go vote for feature requests and that they really do listen. So let’s all go do that. Go to 4D Forums and vote 4 stars on every post by every person in “Feature Requests” that wants 4D Write Pro to be able to import/export to Word. There are many. I just did and it only took a couple of minutes to click the 4 stars for each post. Here is what you do: Log into forums.4d.com Click on “Feature requests” in the “Public forums” area In the “Search” area type in “4D Write Pro” and hit return On the first page that is displayed you will see 8 threads on this topic Open each thread and for every single post in that thread click the 4 stars in “Your rate” You just voted for the feature request, multiple times. Maybe if 10 or more people here on the iNUG go do this it will add up and make somebody notice and say “hmm… this appears to be a feature people want. We should add that in the next version.” I love Paul Dennis response: "This is so obvious it shouldn't even be a request.” I have to agree. Tim * Tim Nevels Innovative Solutions 785-749-3444 timnev...@mac.com * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
I certainly hope we can open/save .docx document with 4D Write Pro in a near future as this is mandatory for me also. I have an application install on several sites that write contracts from clauses stored in a 4D DB and I need to use 4D write and compatibility with MSWord is a must. Right now being compatible with .doc document only is already a problem. Luc Devar > On Aug 29, 2018, at 2:34 PM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > .doc is probably an issue as it is a proprietary format from MS. > .docx might not be such an issue as it is "open" and is supposed to be > based on xml. > ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Re(2): 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
login On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 15:49:26 -0700, Don Lapin via 4D_Tech wrote: > I would suggest keeping the pressure on them. They've gone every > which-way about promising 4D Write Pro features. As it has been > delivered, it is unusable. I've the same issue with Word > compatibility. > > When I click on the link from the original poster, I get into a list > of forums, not the request. What's the problem -- login? > > Thanks, > Don > >> On Aug 29, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Chuck Miller wrote: >> >>> I also have one client that is a huge 4d write user. We also need to >> have ability to convert to Microsoft word. Additionally, there are some >> things we do not seem to be able to do in write pro so for now, we will >> be maintain 4d write licenses across multiple servers and standalone >> dos. At the last Summit many spoke of this issue and 4D stated that they >> were going to implement export to word and not rtf. >> >> That's fantastic news! Glad to hear support for Word is coming. >> >> Tim >> >> * >> Tim Nevels >> Innovative Solutions >> 785-749-3444 >> timnev...@mac.com >> * >> >> ** >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >> ** > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** --- Gas is for washing parts Alcohol is for drinkin' Nitromethane is for racing ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Re(2): 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
> When I click on the link from the original poster, I get into a list of > forums, not the request. What's the problem -- login? You must be logged in to view the Feature Request forum. -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re(2): 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
I would suggest keeping the pressure on them. They've gone every which-way about promising 4D Write Pro features. As it has been delivered, it is unusable. I've the same issue with Word compatibility. When I click on the link from the original poster, I get into a list of forums, not the request. What's the problem -- login? Thanks, Don >On Aug 29, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Chuck Miller wrote: > >> I also have one client that is a huge 4d write user. We also need to >have ability to convert to Microsoft word. Additionally, there are some >things we do not seem to be able to do in write pro so for now, we will >be maintain 4d write licenses across multiple servers and standalone >dos. At the last Summit many spoke of this issue and 4D stated that they >were going to implement export to word and not rtf. > >That's fantastic news! Glad to hear support for Word is coming. > >Tim > >* >Tim Nevels >Innovative Solutions >785-749-3444 >timnev...@mac.com >* > >** >4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
On Aug 29, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Chuck Miller wrote: > I also have one client that is a huge 4d write user. We also need to have > ability to convert to Microsoft word. Additionally, there are some things we > do not seem to be able to do in write pro so for now, we will be maintain 4d > write licenses across multiple servers and standalone dos. At the last Summit > many spoke of this issue and 4D stated that they were going to implement > export to word and not rtf. That’s fantastic news! Glad to hear support for Word is coming. Tim * Tim Nevels Innovative Solutions 785-749-3444 timnev...@mac.com * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
One thing I found to be very helpful was to see how the WriteLike tool bar available via the blog does things. Most things we do programmatically in write or pro are done via the tool bars buttons and menus as well. So often when I was struggling to convert a 4D Write command of function to pro I found an example of how to do it int he WrtieLike tool bar code. John > On Aug 29, 2018, at 9:45 AM, John Baughman via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I gave up trying to convert write documents to Pro reliably. Fortunately for > me with a few exceptions the existing write documents are not supposed to be > modifiable so I decided to convert them to PDFs. New documents going forward > will be pro only. > > John Baughman > Kailua, Hawaii > john...@hawaii.rr.com > >> On Aug 29, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >> We’ve been looking at converting a pretty complex system with form letters, >> paragraphs, lots of imbedded fields, hot links and html expressions. It >> looks like a huge job just trying to convert the old docs. We think the >> rewrite will take more effort than the original development. >> >> Paul >> On 29 Aug 2018, at 21:12, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: On Aug 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Richard Wright wrote: You’re kidding, right? 4D Write Pro can’t read and write Word documents? >>> >>> Nope, it is true. For this version. I have 2 clients that are big 4D Write >>> users (one with a 90 user license) and use 4D Write to create Word >>> documents. >>> >>> I've asked about this at every 4D Summit where they demoed 4D Write Pro. At >>> the first showing several years ago the answer was “we will support all the >>> current 4D Write Plugin features”. Then at a later 4D Summits it was said, >>> it is not there now but it is coming. At the last 4D Summit the answer was >>> “we don’t think any/many developers use it”. Even though I’m the one saying >>> to them “I use it a lot for 2 clients!” >>> >>> So maybe you can flex some OEM muscle and get this put on the “must have” >>> feature list for the next version. I hope you can because I’ve had zero >>> luck, and I was speaking directly to the 4D Write Pro lead engineer. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> * >>> Tim Nevels >>> Innovative Solutions >>> 785-749-3444 >>> timnev...@mac.com >>> * >>> >>> ** >>> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >>> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >>> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >>> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >>> ** >> ** >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >> ** > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
I also have one client that is a huge 4d write user. We also need to have ability to convert to Microsoft word. Additionally, there are some things we do not seem to be able to do in write pro so for now, we will be maintain 4d write licenses across multiple servers and standalone dos. At the last Summit many spoke of this issue and 4D stated that they were going to implement export to word and not rtf. The same thing occurred in quick reports. The 64 but version did not at first release support cross table reports which we use extensively Perhaps we can create a survey and ask 4dwrite users what is stopping them from going to write pro Regards Chuck Chuck Miller Voice: (617) 739-0306 Informed Solutions, Inc. Fax: (617) 232-1064 mailto:cjmillerinformed-solutions.com Brookline, MA 02446 USA Registered 4D Developer Providers of 4D and Sybase connectivity http://www.informed-solutions.com This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission, you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. > On Aug 29, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Aug 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Richard Wright wrote: > >> You’re kidding, right? 4D Write Pro can’t read and write Word documents? > > Nope, it is true. For this version. I have 2 clients that are big 4D Write > users (one with a 90 user license) and use 4D Write to create Word documents. > > I've asked about this at every 4D Summit where they demoed 4D Write Pro. At > the first showing several years ago the answer was “we will support all the > current 4D Write Plugin features”. Then at a later 4D Summits it was said, it > is not there now but it is coming. At the last 4D Summit the answer was “we > don’t think any/many developers use it”. Even though I’m the one saying to > them “I use it a lot for 2 clients!” > > So maybe you can flex some OEM muscle and get this put on the “must have” > feature list for the next version. I hope you can because I’ve had zero luck, > and I was speaking directly to the 4D Write Pro lead engineer. > > Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
I gave up trying to convert write documents to Pro reliably. Fortunately for me with a few exceptions the existing write documents are not supposed to be modifiable so I decided to convert them to PDFs. New documents going forward will be pro only. John Baughman Kailua, Hawaii john...@hawaii.rr.com > On Aug 29, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > We’ve been looking at converting a pretty complex system with form letters, > paragraphs, lots of imbedded fields, hot links and html expressions. It looks > like a huge job just trying to convert the old docs. We think the rewrite > will take more effort than the original development. > > Paul > >>> On 29 Aug 2018, at 21:12, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Richard Wright wrote: >>> >>> You’re kidding, right? 4D Write Pro can’t read and write Word documents? >> >> Nope, it is true. For this version. I have 2 clients that are big 4D Write >> users (one with a 90 user license) and use 4D Write to create Word >> documents. >> >> I've asked about this at every 4D Summit where they demoed 4D Write Pro. At >> the first showing several years ago the answer was “we will support all the >> current 4D Write Plugin features”. Then at a later 4D Summits it was said, >> it is not there now but it is coming. At the last 4D Summit the answer was >> “we don’t think any/many developers use it”. Even though I’m the one saying >> to them “I use it a lot for 2 clients!” >> >> So maybe you can flex some OEM muscle and get this put on the “must have” >> feature list for the next version. I hope you can because I’ve had zero >> luck, and I was speaking directly to the 4D Write Pro lead engineer. >> >> Tim >> >> * >> Tim Nevels >> Innovative Solutions >> 785-749-3444 >> timnev...@mac.com >> * >> >> ** >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >> ** > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
We’ve been looking at converting a pretty complex system with form letters, paragraphs, lots of imbedded fields, hot links and html expressions. It looks like a huge job just trying to convert the old docs. We think the rewrite will take more effort than the original development. Paul > On 29 Aug 2018, at 21:12, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >> On Aug 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Richard Wright wrote: >> >> You’re kidding, right? 4D Write Pro can’t read and write Word documents? > > Nope, it is true. For this version. I have 2 clients that are big 4D Write > users (one with a 90 user license) and use 4D Write to create Word documents. > > I've asked about this at every 4D Summit where they demoed 4D Write Pro. At > the first showing several years ago the answer was “we will support all the > current 4D Write Plugin features”. Then at a later 4D Summits it was said, it > is not there now but it is coming. At the last 4D Summit the answer was “we > don’t think any/many developers use it”. Even though I’m the one saying to > them “I use it a lot for 2 clients!” > > So maybe you can flex some OEM muscle and get this put on the “must have” > feature list for the next version. I hope you can because I’ve had zero luck, > and I was speaking directly to the 4D Write Pro lead engineer. > > Tim > > * > Tim Nevels > Innovative Solutions > 785-749-3444 > timnev...@mac.com > * > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
Hi Chip, Thanks for the clarification. In our case .docx and / or .rtf would be acceptable. We don't need .doc specifically. We need something which could be saved as a stand alone document and easily opened and edited within MS Word. Thanks again, Mike ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
On Aug 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Richard Wright wrote: > You’re kidding, right? 4D Write Pro can’t read and write Word documents? Nope, it is true. For this version. I have 2 clients that are big 4D Write users (one with a 90 user license) and use 4D Write to create Word documents. I've asked about this at every 4D Summit where they demoed 4D Write Pro. At the first showing several years ago the answer was “we will support all the current 4D Write Plugin features”. Then at a later 4D Summits it was said, it is not there now but it is coming. At the last 4D Summit the answer was “we don’t think any/many developers use it”. Even though I’m the one saying to them “I use it a lot for 2 clients!” So maybe you can flex some OEM muscle and get this put on the “must have” feature list for the next version. I hope you can because I’ve had zero luck, and I was speaking directly to the 4D Write Pro lead engineer. Tim * Tim Nevels Innovative Solutions 785-749-3444 timnev...@mac.com * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
.doc is probably an issue as it is a proprietary format from MS. .docx might not be such an issue as it is "open" and is supposed to be based on xml. On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:22:02 +, Michael McCall via 4D_Tech wrote: > doc export option we will be unable to use it. This is an essential > feature and we can only hope that it arrives quickly. --- Gas is for washing parts Alcohol is for drinkin' Nitromethane is for racing ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
4D Write had an an export to RTF option which worked with MS Word. That was the main reason we used 4D Write. Until 4D Write Pro has an .rtf or .doc export option we will be unable to use it. This is an essential feature and we can only hope that it arrives quickly. I just added my name to the list of those requesting this feature. I was frankly stunned when I found out it didn't exist in 4D Write Pro. Mike McCall ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
You’re kidding, right? 4D Write Pro can’t read and write Word documents? > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 05:56:51 -0700 (MST) > From: ADeeg > > > FR from Alfonso: 4D Write Pro Import-Export Word > link: http://forums.4d.com/Post/DE/25361165/1/25361166 > ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support
Hi list users, I've posted some feature requests to speed up the 4d write pro development. The rule from 4D is, more demand from us, is more chance to get this features. So please support me and klick the 4 stars to support these features. 1. 4D Write Pro Toolbar - more features please, images, tables and tabs link: http://forums.4d.com/Post/DE/25450673/1/25450674 2. 4D Write Pro, smaller horizontal ruler option link: http://forums.4d.com/Post/DE/22754850/1/22754851 3. 4D Write Pro - need vertical ruler like MS Word link: http://forums.4d.com/Post/DE/25467416/1/25467417 FR from Alfonso: 4D Write Pro Import-Export Word link: http://forums.4d.com/Post/DE/25361165/1/25361166 Thanks Armin -- Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
