RE: Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?
Tim, Yes, your suggestion is good, if people would take the effort to do that. Our users do not, and hence cause all kinds of problems, which then we have to correct. Education is great, if people would simply listen. I have a couple of signs in my office: 1. I can explain it to you, but I cannot learn it for you. 2. Can't fix stupid You take your pick into which category this falls into. Best, Steve -Original Message- From: Timothy Penner [mailto:tpen...@4d.com] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:42 PM To: s.o...@the-aquila-group.com; '4D iNug Technical' <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Subject: RE: Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers? The issue as I understand it is this; Windows Server allows you to have multiple sessions for users concurrently logged in. This can be confusing when multiple people connect expecting to administer the same desktop, but instead of seeing a shared desktop they get their own desktop in their own session, even though the app they are looking to administer (4D) is running in another user session. To correct this they must be aware of the session they are currently connected to and aware of the session that is running the app they want to administer. If the latest version of Windows Server no longer uses the concept of the console session then I would still suggest using the Task Manager to view the "Users" tab to determine whether or not another windows session exists. Then, from the users tab of the Task Manager you can expand the list of processes on a per user session basis, this allows you to see if 4D is running under any of the existing sessions. If you see 4D running under an existing user session, you could then right-click on the user name and choose "Connect" to control that session. -Tim Timothy Penner Senior Technical Services Engineer ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?
The issue as I understand it is this; Windows Server allows you to have multiple sessions for users concurrently logged in. This can be confusing when multiple people connect expecting to administer the same desktop, but instead of seeing a shared desktop they get their own desktop in their own session, even though the app they are looking to administer (4D) is running in another user session. To correct this they must be aware of the session they are currently connected to and aware of the session that is running the app they want to administer. If the latest version of Windows Server no longer uses the concept of the console session then I would still suggest using the Task Manager to view the "Users" tab to determine whether or not another windows session exists. Then, from the users tab of the Task Manager you can expand the list of processes on a per user session basis, this allows you to see if 4D is running under any of the existing sessions. If you see 4D running under an existing user session, you could then right-click on the user name and choose "Connect" to control that session. -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?
Tim, I don't believe on the latest version you can connect to the console anymore, which is why we are having issues with RD. Steve -Original Message- From: Timothy Penner [mailto:tpen...@4d.com] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:21 PM To: s.o...@the-aquila-group.com; 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Subject: RE: Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers? Quote: > Just don't use RD in an environment you don't control because it does not > launch to the console, it creates a new session. If you have multiple people > accessing the same system, they all have their own sessions and it creates > all kinds of problems. You need to make sure the users connect to the admin console... There are a number of ways of doing this: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/278845/how-to-connect-to-and-shadow-the-console-session-with-windows-server-2 https://www.veritas.com/support/en_US/article.HOWTO55885 I usually just bring up the task manager, view the Users tab, then right click on the user that session of the console and choose "connect". -Tim Timothy Penner Senior Technical Services Engineer ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?
Quote: > Just don't use RD in an environment you don't control because it does not > launch to the console, it creates a new session. If you have multiple people > accessing the same system, they all have their own sessions and it creates > all kinds of problems. You need to make sure the users connect to the admin console... There are a number of ways of doing this: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/278845/how-to-connect-to-and-shadow-the-console-session-with-windows-server-2 https://www.veritas.com/support/en_US/article.HOWTO55885 I usually just bring up the task manager, view the Users tab, then right click on the user that session of the console and choose "connect". -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?
Just don't use RD in an environment you don't control because it does not launch to the console, it creates a new session. If you have multiple people accessing the same system, they all have their own sessions and it creates all kinds of problems. Steve -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Charles Miller via 4D_Tech Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:04 PM To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: Charles Miller Subject: Re: Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers? I like this as well Regards Chuck ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?
I like this as well Regards Chuck On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 2:14 PM, steve simpson via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 2:01 PM, > > John Baughma wrote: > > > I really like Microsoft Remote Desktop for Mac which can be downloaded > for > > free from Microsoft. They regularly update it. Clipboards are shared and > > you can designate one or more folders on your Mac as network drives which > > automatically mount when you log in. > > [snip] > > > > > +1 > -- > Stephen Simpson > Cimarron Software > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- - Chuck Miller Voice: (617) 739-0306 Fax: (617) 232-1064 Informed Solutions, Inc. Brookline, MA 02446 USA Registered 4D Developer Providers of 4D, Sybase & SQL Server connectivity http://www.informed-solutions.com - This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission, you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
