Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-07 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
I didn’t miss it. I think that the new editor is a bug. Query selection should be that the user should not be able to change. There is a change in behavior that is bad I know I can code around it and will but why should I have to. One can code around almost anything Regards Chuck

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-07 Thread Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech
Wow! It’s great having a benevolent resident genius here! Thanks Miyako. Paul > Le 7 mars 2017 à 08:10, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a > écrit : > > Thank you Arnaud your code gave me the needed inspiration :) > > https://github.com/miyako/4d-component-classic-query-ed

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-07 Thread Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech
You missed my point on your point ;-) You can offer all of that without giving the user access to that in case you DON’T want them to have it. For example, you could create a set via a query, then give your users access to ONLY query the selection, or whatever. You don’t need that new 4D weird

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-07 Thread Charles Miller via 4D_Tech
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:23 AM, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Chuck, > > As a developer I’ve already offered the functionality to query in the > selection, join to the existing selection or use a query result to exclude > from the selection. > You missed my point. Let'

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-07 Thread ernie hilgers via 4D_Tech
> For a number of reasons we decided to shield our users from 4D’s new query > dialog, which we find not intuitive… > > That surprises me. > We found the v15 4D search interface really easy to understand. > I guess we must be used to very different interfaces. typical customers consisting of -

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-06 Thread Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech
> Le 7 mars 2017 à 08:10, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a > écrit : > > Thank you Arnaud your code gave me the needed inspiration :) I wonder when the inspiration leaves you some time to rest ;-) Thanks! -- Arnaud de Montard **

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-06 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
Thank you Arnaud your code gave me the needed inspiration :) https://github.com/miyako/4d-component-classic-query-editor/ 2017/03/07 5:42、Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール: I just translated some comments, and, again, I never ended the job. HTH… *

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-06 Thread Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech
Chuck, As a developer I’ve already offered the functionality to query in the selection, join to the existing selection or use a query result to exclude from the selection. > Le 6 mars 2017 à 21:29, Charles Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a > écrit : > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:25 P

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-06 Thread Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech
> Le 6 mars 2017 à 21:18, truegold via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a écrit : > > Hi Arnaud, > > Funny, I just got asked about this on Friday. > > I would also be interested to know the bets way to handle older (I think > they’re all from v12) Query files. I just translated some comments, a

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-06 Thread Charles Miller via 4D_Tech
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:25 PM, truegold via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Our users have also found the new query dialog less intuitive. They > expressed that having to use popup buttons required extra steps. And > because some checkboxes are now hidden in the popup they forget about it

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-06 Thread truegold via 4D_Tech
Hey Keith, Our users have also found the new query dialog less intuitive. They expressed that having to use popup buttons required extra steps. And because some checkboxes are now hidden in the popup they forget about it. And other more subtle things. So for them it’s extra work! And, yes, I

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-06 Thread truegold via 4D_Tech
Hi Arnaud, Funny, I just got asked about this on Friday. I would also be interested to know the bets way to handle older (I think they’re all from v12) Query files. Appreciate, John... >> Le 6 mars 2017 à 13:45, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a >> écrit : >> >> Miyako's dial

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-06 Thread Keith Goebel via 4D_Tech
… > For a number of reasons we decided to shield our users from 4D’s new query > dialog, which we find not intuitive… That surprises me. We found the v15 4D search interface really easy to understand. I guess we must be used to very different interfaces. Cheers, Keith ***

Re: Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-06 Thread Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech
> Le 6 mars 2017 à 13:45, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a > écrit : > > Miyako's dialog works quite well but has just one drawback: it can’t open > .4DF files created with v12. [...] I was hoping to find a way to do this in a > batch process programmatically. Our users have h

Saved query files (.4df) and changes from v12 to v15 - automated conversion?

2017-03-06 Thread Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech
Hi, We upgraded a database from v12 to v15 and we implemented Miyako’s classic query dialog (thank’s Miyako!). For a number of reasons we decided to shield our users from 4D’s new query dialog, which we find not intuitive. Miyako's dialog works quite well but has just one drawback: it can’t ope