Re: 4D World Tour - Seattle
Hi Tom, > It appears to address what I’ve long considered to be a major shortcoming in > 4D - the lack of support for automated testing. Oh yes, automated testing! That will be a real boon for the developmental process. If it could be made easier I think more developers would use it. And now that’s a possibility. > On top of that, the continued maturing of native support for version control > will transform how 4D developers manage code, especially in distributed teams. Yes I had forgotten about this being taken over by dynamic forms. Good catch Tom, John… > I will add that I was probably most excited by the short overview that Will > Taylor provided of QAAS (Quality Assurance Automation Services). It appears > to address what I’ve long considered to be a major shortcoming in 4D - the > lack of support for automated testing. In my experience, the lion’s share of > the cost of version upgrades and/or major code refactoring is the test > burden, which, in the 4D world, is all manual. The lack of a regression > testing tool is a major reason many systems are not kept up to date, making > this new feature/service extremely valuable. The tools which Will described > look like they make provide the hooks into industry standard automated test > tools possible. > > On top of that, the continued maturing of native support for version control > will transform how 4D developers manage code, especially in distributed teams. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D World Tour - Seattle
John Foster wrote: >I am sending this knowing that there is only one more stop in San Jose. But if >you have any doubts about going please don’t. > >Take advantage of the first free day with a free lunch and fellow camaraderie. >And get teased about the content of the 2nd day. I second John’s comments about 4DWT Seattle! I’ve been distracted from ‘modern’ 4D features for a few years, so it was great to get re-introduced to 4D at the 4DWT. The new Object, Collection, ORDA paradigm is truly transformative. I will add that I was probably most excited by the short overview that Will Taylor provided of QAAS (Quality Assurance Automation Services). It appears to address what I’ve long considered to be a major shortcoming in 4D - the lack of support for automated testing. In my experience, the lion’s share of the cost of version upgrades and/or major code refactoring is the test burden, which, in the 4D world, is all manual. The lack of a regression testing tool is a major reason many systems are not kept up to date, making this new feature/service extremely valuable. The tools which Will described look like they make provide the hooks into industry standard automated test tools possible. On top of that, the continued maturing of native support for version control will transform how 4D developers manage code, especially in distributed teams. If you can make it to one or both days in San Jose, you will find it to be time well spent. Tom Benedict ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
