Re: Windows Server 2012 & 4D Server v17.2

2019-07-22 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech
Oh, red faced with pie on it on this one.

We tested the application on a server in our office. Unknown to me the 
application was being run on port 19833. 

Unknown to me this port setting travels with the structure file to our client’s 
server. I thought I had checked that, but likely did not pay enough attention 
to the detail that it ended in ’33’ instead of ’13’.

Something so simple. I had them check the Windows Firewall, and numerous other 
things.

Thanks John Baughman, Ed Glassgow, and Paul Dennis for your replies. 

In the end good news, nothing strange, just a simple setting that I neglected 
to set back. Now wiser. Guess I have been away from setting up servers for too 
long. 

Jody Bevan

> On Jul 19, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Jody Bevan  wrote:
> 
> I do not have access to the Windows Server Administration window (only to 4D 
> Server Window). 4D Server has been working fine there. A restart of the 4D 
> Server to put up an application update,  (that works on a server in our shop) 
> and now the clients cannot see 4D Server broadcasting.
> 
> I have gone into 4D server to ensure that it is broadcasting on 19813 and the 
> 4D Admin window says that it is. It even shows network activity in that 
> window. No clients can connect to the server. A 4D Client running on the 
> server computer cannot connect either.
> 
> If I had access to the Windows Server Administration window I would poke 
> around to try and find something (like the firewall on) causing this. 
> 
> Any pointers on what I should check for?
> 
> I am not used to having client controlled servers.
> 
> Jody
> ARGUS Productions Inc.

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Re: Windows Server 2012 & 4D Server v17.2

2019-07-22 Thread Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech
Did you change the install path on the server ? If so then its the firewall.
In the Windows firewall you define either the ports to be open or for the
application itself to accept connections. If you have changed the path then
it will be treated as a new application and unable to accept connections. 

Is it not possible for them to give you temp RDP access to the control panel
?



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Re: Windows Server 2012 & 4D Server v17.2

2019-07-19 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech
Tim:

Thanks

Jody

> On Jul 19, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> On Jul 19, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Jody Bevan wrote:
> 
>> I do not have access to the Windows Server Administration window (only to 4D 
>> Server Window). 4D Server has been working fine there. A restart of the 4D 
>> Server to put up an application update,  (that works on a server in our 
>> shop) and now the clients cannot see 4D Server broadcasting.
>> 
>> I have gone into 4D server to ensure that it is broadcasting on 19813 and 
>> the 4D Admin window says that it is. It even shows network activity in that 
>> window. No clients can connect to the server. A 4D Client running on the 
>> server computer cannot connect either.
>> 
>> If I had access to the Windows Server Administration window I would poke 
>> around to try and find something (like the firewall on) causing this. 
>> 
>> Any pointers on what I should check for?
>> 
>> I am not used to having client controlled servers.
> 
> Check the Application Server tab on the 4D Server Administration see if the 
> button at the top says “Accept new connections”. If it says that, then the 
> server has decided to reject connections. If you click the button the button 
> name should then change to “Reject new connections”. But that might not make 
> a difference. 
> 
> I’ve seen v17 sometimes go into reject connections mode for no known reason. 
> Clicking the button does not fix it. 
> 
> Try restarting the server machine. That is how I’ve fixed the reject 
> connection problem. 
> 

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Re: Windows Server 2012 & 4D Server v17.2

2019-07-19 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 19, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Jody Bevan wrote:

> I do not have access to the Windows Server Administration window (only to 4D 
> Server Window). 4D Server has been working fine there. A restart of the 4D 
> Server to put up an application update,  (that works on a server in our shop) 
> and now the clients cannot see 4D Server broadcasting.
> 
> I have gone into 4D server to ensure that it is broadcasting on 19813 and the 
> 4D Admin window says that it is. It even shows network activity in that 
> window. No clients can connect to the server. A 4D Client running on the 
> server computer cannot connect either.
> 
> If I had access to the Windows Server Administration window I would poke 
> around to try and find something (like the firewall on) causing this. 
> 
> Any pointers on what I should check for?
> 
> I am not used to having client controlled servers.

Check the Application Server tab on the 4D Server Administration see if the 
button at the top says “Accept new connections”. If it says that, then the 
server has decided to reject connections. If you click the button the button 
name should then change to “Reject new connections”. But that might not make a 
difference. 

I’ve seen v17 sometimes go into reject connections mode for no known reason. 
Clicking the button does not fix it. 

Try restarting the server machine. That is how I’ve fixed the reject connection 
problem. 

Tim

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Re: Windows Server 2012 & 4D Server v17.2

2019-07-19 Thread Ed Glassgow via 4D_Tech
You need to be sure that the firewall is configured correctly..  I run both and 
have no issues but needed to open all the appropriate ports.

Ed Glassgow
glass...@pcisys.net

On 7/19/19, 10:45 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

Have the clients tried connecting using a Custom address… 
192.16..1.150:19813 for example? I have found that for some of my windows 
installations This was necessary to make a connection, after which the recent 
connection created can be used.

John



John Baughman
Kailua, Hawaii
(808) 262-0328
john...@hawaii.rr.com

> On Jul 19, 2019, at 4:17 AM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> I do not have access to the Windows Server Administration window (only to 
4D Server Window). 4D Server has been working fine there. A restart of the 4D 
Server to put up an application update,  (that works on a server in our shop) 
and now the clients cannot see 4D Server broadcasting.
> 
> I have gone into 4D server to ensure that it is broadcasting on 19813 and 
the 4D Admin window says that it is. It even shows network activity in that 
window. No clients can connect to the server. A 4D Client running on the server 
computer cannot connect either.
> 
> If I had access to the Windows Server Administration window I would poke 
around to try and find something (like the firewall on) causing this. 
> 
> Any pointers on what I should check for?
> 
> I am not used to having client controlled servers.
> 
> Jody
> ARGUS Productions Inc.
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Re: Windows Server 2012 & 4D Server v17.2

2019-07-19 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
Have the clients tried connecting using a Custom address… 192.16..1.150:19813 
for example? I have found that for some of my windows installations This was 
necessary to make a connection, after which the recent connection created can 
be used.

John



John Baughman
Kailua, Hawaii
(808) 262-0328
john...@hawaii.rr.com

> On Jul 19, 2019, at 4:17 AM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I do not have access to the Windows Server Administration window (only to 4D 
> Server Window). 4D Server has been working fine there. A restart of the 4D 
> Server to put up an application update,  (that works on a server in our shop) 
> and now the clients cannot see 4D Server broadcasting.
> 
> I have gone into 4D server to ensure that it is broadcasting on 19813 and the 
> 4D Admin window says that it is. It even shows network activity in that 
> window. No clients can connect to the server. A 4D Client running on the 
> server computer cannot connect either.
> 
> If I had access to the Windows Server Administration window I would poke 
> around to try and find something (like the firewall on) causing this. 
> 
> Any pointers on what I should check for?
> 
> I am not used to having client controlled servers.
> 
> Jody
> ARGUS Productions Inc.
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