Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-12 Thread Tengfei Chang
e > > *“before it is passed to the 6top sublayer where MSF can observe it.” Or > something similar?* > > > > Otherwise, all good! > > > > Pascal > > > > *From:* 6tisch <6tisch-boun...@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Tengfei Chang > *Sent:* jeudi 12 décembre

Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-12 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
6tisch <6tisch@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets All, The following is our internal discuss about this issue. We will add the following text in "Security Consideration " section in MSF-09: MSF adapts to traffics containing

Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-12 Thread Tengfei Chang
All, The following is our internal discuss about this issue. We will add the following text in "Security Consideration " section in MSF-09: * MSF adapts to traffics containing packets from IP layer. It is possible that the IP packet has a non-zero DSCP (Diffserv Code

Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-06 Thread Yasuyuki Tanaka
Thank you, Tengfei. > On Dec 6, 2019, at 22:49, Tengfei Chang wrote: > > Handling DSCP value will be a per-packet process. Can we pass DCSP value > to the TSCH layer using the interface for transmission defined by > IEEE802.15.4? I don't think so. > > TC: Not sure this is a standard way to

Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-06 Thread Tengfei Chang
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 9:31 PM Yasuyuki Tanaka wrote: > Hi Pascal, Tengfei, > > On 12/6/2019 6:48 PM, Tengfei Chang wrote: > > Yes, MSF indeed aware of the routing information such as RPL parent, I > > consider this is like an information stored at IPv6 layer that MSF can > > read it from

Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-06 Thread Yasuyuki Tanaka
Hi Pascal, Tengfei, On 12/6/2019 6:48 PM, Tengfei Chang wrote: Yes, MSF indeed aware of the routing information such as RPL parent, I consider this is like an information stored at IPv6 layer that MSF can read it from without touching the frame L2 payload. In such sense, I could consider the

Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-06 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Yes I do Regards, Pascal Le 6 déc. 2019 à 09:49, Tengfei Chang a écrit :  Pascal, Yes, MSF indeed aware of the routing information such as RPL parent, I consider this is like an information stored at IPv6 layer that MSF can read it from without touching the frame L2 payload. In such

Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-06 Thread Tengfei Chang
Pascal, Yes, MSF indeed aware of the routing information such as RPL parent, I consider this is like an information stored at IPv6 layer that MSF can read it from without touching the frame L2 payload. In such sense, I could consider the DSCP value can be another information stored at upper layer

Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-05 Thread Yasuyuki Tanaka
Hi Malisa. Thanks to your explanation, I get the point. how could we ensure that the “acceptable” amount of unauthenticated traffic that actually gets forwarded does not trigger cell allocation? It'd be fine to trigger cell allocations by *acceptable* amount of unauthenticated traffic if

Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-05 Thread Mališa Vučinić
The “join rate” parameter takes care that any single JP at the edge of the network does not inject too much traffic. But this traffic is forwarded along multiple hops towards the root, and therefore gets aggregated with (join) traffic from other JPs in the network. The purpose of the traffic

Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-05 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Hello Tengfei Architecturally speaking, MSF right now is used to allocate cells in the L3 bundle with a parent. “ Layer-2 vs. Layer-3 bundle: Bundles are associated for either Layer-2 (switching) or Layer-3 (routing) forwarding operations. A pair of Layer-3 bundles (one for each direction)

Re: [6tisch] MSF adapts to traffic only for secured packets

2019-12-05 Thread Yasuyuki Tanaka
Hi, On 12/5/2019 5:17 PM, Tengfei Chang wrote: Does anyone know other way to make the SF not adapt to unsecured traffic without knowing upper layer field? I have no idea... Why can't the "join rate" avoid such undesired cell allocations? If the join rate is properly configured, incoming