Thank you very much, Erik!
++pac
-Original Message-
i can reproduce this problem but haven't yet figured out what's
going on, yet. i think it's my error due to some junk sneaking
onto cd. i'm working on it.
- erik
winmail.dat
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:01:06 -0700
James Tomaschke ja...@orcasystems.com wrote:
What about,
i = 0;
do {
SD = SDList[i++];
...
} while(i2);
I was about to suggest something similar. I'm actually trying to avoid
using for(;;) altogether which may seem odd to some but I just
WOW!
With the new cdimage from Eric's ftp://ftp.quanstro.net/other/9atom.iso.bz2,
the install friom sdE1
was s smooth! Almost just hitting 'Enter' key all the time ;-)
A big THANKYOU, Eric!
After first login I got some 'black' messages, however:
sdE0: i/o error 5...@4,461,520
fossil:
Sadly, I was too optimistic when SATA install succeeded... :-(
This is a report of error messages I've got while booting new system on (and
from) sdE0:
sdiahci: drive 0 in state ready after 0 resets # SATA HD with Plan 9 system
on it
sdiahci: drive 1 won't come up; in state new after 10
i'll be working on this today. you are unfortunately running
and old kernel which is causing trouble. (as noted by fernanbolando.)
this is my fault for building a bogus iso.
- erik
sdiahci: drive 0 in state ready after 0 resets # SATA HD with Plan 9 system
on it
that's good. i hope i've corrected the debug prints.
in this case drive n is sdEn.
sdiahci: drive 1 won't come up; in state new after 10 resets # SATA DVD
sdE1 waitready: [new] task=50 sstat=113
sdE1
Charles Forsyth wrote:
with a zero modulus (which suggests the key wasn't unpacked correctly).
my deliberate mistake (it won't be using rsaencrypt but rsadecrypt)
happened to highlight the actual problem, which is that strtosk
shouldn't accept a string that looks to me (if not to it)
First of all, thank you very much for your work, Eric !
you're welcome. unfortunately, so far we haven't made any
progress.
this is a jmicron bug. i haven't yet had in my possession a jmicron
controller, so this will be interesting, but the new driver does have
code to work around
Hi
So I'm trying to clone a private repository I just created on
bitbucket. This is what I see:
jerq% hg clone https://username@bitbucket.org/username/repo/
destination directory: repo
http authorization required
realm: Bitbucket.org HTTP
user: username
abort: could not import module msvcrt!
If
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
So I'm trying to clone a private repository I just created on
bitbucket. This is what I see:
jerq% hg clone https://username@bitbucket.org/username/repo/
destination directory: repo
http authorization required
i don't know where it's getting the 9pcf that it's putting in 9fat. it
doesn't appear to be the same as /386/9pcf from the cd. (there's
only one.)
as soon as i figure that out, this will probablly all work.
okay. the cd was rolled correctly, but i discovered a potential
source of
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
So I'm trying to clone a private repository I just created on
bitbucket. This is what I see:
jerq% hg clone https://username@bitbucket.org/username/repo/
destination directory: repo
http authorization required
By the way, I realized that hg on Windows file systems does not like
the following files:
bin/
bin/
Clone/pull work fine. You just can't successfully update to actually
get the bits into a working system.
-jas
On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote:
On Tue,
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Russ Coxr...@swtch.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
So I'm trying to clone a private repository I just created on
bitbucket. This is what I see:
jerq% hg clone
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:57 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
i don't know where it's getting the 9pcf that it's putting in 9fat. it
doesn't appear to be the same as /386/9pcf from the cd. (there's
only one.)
as soon as i figure that out, this will probablly all work.
When I download this ISO, it gets to what appears to be the last byte then
aborts.
i tried this and it works for me. in the interest of time, and
not further overloading my dsl line, i downloaded over the
local interface, and not going out through the intertubes.
if you were downloading
I only want to point out that OS X has had an option for case sensitive
versions of the HFS+ file system for some time now. See the Volume Format
popup under the Erase tab of the Disk Utility program.
I have used it for untaring of linux and plan9 source code. It seems to work
and I don't
i was looking to add bytes transmited to
/net/ether?/stats accounting but was derailed
because the existing accounting seems
inaccurate.
i'm pretty sure that etheroq can be called
concurrently on the same ether, so doesn't
that make the outpackets inaccurate at
high packet rates on an mp machine?
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:25 AM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net wrote:
When I download this ISO, it gets to what appears to be the last byte then
aborts.
i tried this and it works for me. in the interest of time, and
not further overloading my dsl line, i downloaded over the
local
last 2 lines says
Boot devices: fd0 ether0
boot from:
I will investigate further.
judging from past email, i'm guessing that your ide device
is 27c4, which was missing from 9load. i put up a corrected cd.
if you can ftpfs from your mostly-installed machine and
get just 9load.bz2,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
I just don't like parsing a for statement, it's rarely clear and usually ugly
to my eyes.
Writing a parser to parse a for statement is slightly more involved as
well. However I was commenting on how the compiler seems
One thing I like about acme is it doesn't present me with little
annoyances I must learn to work around. Instead I find little
niceties like this: I was editing an over sized tag in a way that
would cause it to shrink, leaving my mouse pointer outside. But acme
nicely warped the pointer so it
Thank you Erik for your review - very much appreciated!
I have integrated your suggestions (plus some further general enhancements
and optimizations) into another draft version that I will upload shortly.
May I solicit just one more bit of feedback from you?
In the 'Conventions' section, I
On Monday 10 August 2009 22:37:38 John Floren wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:34 PM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net
wrote:
step 17.
it's a good idea to always leave a 9fat menu around on your auth server.
if you screw a kernel up, you'll really be proud of your self for it!
-
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Coreyco...@bitworthy.net wrote:
On Monday 10 August 2009 22:37:38 John Floren wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:34 PM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net
wrote:
step 17.
it's a good idea to always leave a 9fat menu around on your auth server.
if you screw
authdomain - The authentication domain name used for the auth services
your
server will be supplying.
it's not a domain name. often people make the authentication domain
the same as their dns domain, since we now live in an ip world.
but it's just a text token. no heirarchy. no partial
I'm looking over the audio device formats because I would
like to make a service that is interoperable with the existing
services and much to my dismay there are several different
formats:
- plan9 audio(3) with audio,volume,audiostat
- plan9 usb(4) with audio,volume,audioctl,audioin
-
Cinap and Brucee's guide ...
Arrive back home to find a fried Auth server. Curse. A standard here,
due to HST, is four (and only four) F*cks, in quick succesion, getting
louder and higher in pitch.
Drag the bastard into the workshop and completely butcher it and a
standby clunker and rebuild it.
- Is there any interest in unifying the existing audio formats?
- If so, is anyone interested in bouncing around ideas of what
this format should look like?
this is probablly super obvious. but as one as you
pick a cannonical format as is the plan 9 custom
(like for character sets, images,
Instead of writing translators I'd rather pick a single convention
that seems the most suitable and fixup the other implementations
and clients to fall in line with those conventions. My biggest
question is is it worth my time? If I spend time unifying
the various implementations, will they
i didn't mean translating from one /dev/audio to the next.
i ment dealing with azalia audio vs. ac97 vs. soundblaster.
and ogg/vorbis vs. mp3 vs pem vs. *law.
I agree here. I envision a separate codec server that
sits on top of an audio server and encapsulates a bunch
of this stuff. It would
Soldering iron (nice old temperature controlled Weller) breaks down (never
heard of)!
that's amazing.
On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 15:35 +0200, Rudolf Sykora
rudolf.sykora-at-gmail.com |9fans| wrote:
I can have that '|fmt -w 72' anywhere in any window, but other than
where my text is. I ensure I have 'Edit' in the tag line of the text
window. I highlight the text I want be formatted. I go to the
It would be nice to do plan 9 audio if only to show people how it can
be done. Anyone who deals with audio on linux knows how not to do it;
but it's probably very hard to get it right. I know I could do no
better.
It would be nice, I think, to do it out of the kernel ... still better
to do it in
Given how useful and important it is to have Edit in the tag of text
windows, is there some reason that it isn't there automatically?
Probably to avoid temptation for files you shouldn't, and see at a
glance which files you edited and saved (since the dirty bit will be
clear).
thanks,
It wasn't me with this exact feature but I'll take credit for moving
the mouse where you want it. Sam did it with its menus, but Acme took
it much farther. I like it a lot and I appreciate your noticing.
(Did you ever notice it puts it back when it's done? Error window
pops up, mouse moves
On Tue Aug 11 23:18:02 EDT 2009, jason.cat...@gmail.com wrote:
Given how useful and important it is to have Edit in the tag of text
windows, is there some reason that it isn't there automatically?
Probably to avoid temptation for files you shouldn't, and see at a
glance which files you
(Did you ever notice it puts it back when it's done? Error window
pops up, mouse moves there; delete the window, mouse moves back.)
worth one smile per day, after all these years.
- erik
It would be nice, I think, to do it out of the kernel ... still better
to do it in a way that makes it easy to adopt new audio formats
without having to rip out the guts each time and start over -- which
seems to be the linux problem.
i'm just glad they don't do this with disks. we have scsi
there are photos ... don't know where. it was lucky that it was
warmish winter night.
built a nice fire and slept for a few hours around it in t-shirt,
shorts, sandals.
we did have my travel lapdog but it was obvious that coffee was in
order ... and no work in a national park!
brucee
On Wed,
On Aug 11, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Tim Newsham wrote:
i didn't mean translating from one /dev/audio to the next.
i ment dealing with azalia audio vs. ac97 vs. soundblaster.
and ogg/vorbis vs. mp3 vs pem vs. *law.
I agree here. I envision a separate codec server that
sits on top of an audio server
It's hard to do the low-level hardware stuff outside
the kernel. It's possible, but it's a lot easier inside.
Just keep the inside simple.
I've done audio on a handful of operating systems
and all I ever want to do with the card is set it up
to play X kHz 16-bit little-endian PCM stereo and
then
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:24 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
(Did you ever notice it puts it back when it's done? Error window
pops up, mouse moves there; delete the window, mouse moves back.)
worth one smile per day, after all these years.
☺
- erik
... Inferno's implementation of mp3 in the kernel device file ...
it does?
Lawrence E. Bakstm...@iridescent.org wrote:
// I only want to point out that OS X has had an option for case sensitive
// versions of the HFS+ file system for some time now.
// ...It seems to work and I don't think there is much downside to using it,
// although I am not sure I would format my
we have scsi and ata.
and that's enough for me.
that's more than enough for me.
On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:25 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
May be its better to call this latency, since we can all appreciate
some of the shortcomings that 9P has when it comes to it.
i think you're drawing the wrong conclusion from a too-abstract
view of the facts.
My ears begged to differ ;-)
I'm not sure either latency or RT is proper terminology here. But
I believe what I meant was clear: when you need overall latency
to be around 5ms you start to notice 9P.
It sounds like you have a specific app in mind, and a real-time
one at that. If you're using your audio device for live
I've done audio on a handful of operating systems
and all I ever want to do with the card is set it up
to play X kHz 16-bit little-endian PCM stereo and
then control the volume. The rest can be done from
user space. This is exactly what Plan 9's audio
driver already does, and I wish the others
i think russ has it exactly right: keep the kernel driver as simple as
is practical, do whatever else you want in user space. for /dev/audio,
i wouldn't suggest anything beyond plan 9's audio(3) as is. i'd
suggest some cleanup of the surround (kill /dev/volume, rationalize
/dev/audioctl), but the
On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Tim Newsham wrote:
I'm not sure either latency or RT is proper terminology here. But
I believe what I meant was clear: when you need overall latency
to be around 5ms you start to notice 9P.
It sounds like you have a specific app in mind, and a real-time
one at
On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:15 PM, Tim Newsham wrote:
The simplicity is definitely attractive in its own right,
and I'll consider it. However, the devices do provide hardware
support for other formats which do require some work to convert.
mu-law and a-law come to mind..
In all my life doing
Tim Newshamnews...@lava.net wrote:
// Yah, this format doesnt come up that often.. perhaps its not
// worth the effort, but then again the ability to switch a device's
// encoding isnt very much work either... About as hard as
// changing the sampling rate or turning stereo on and off...
i'd
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