Re: [9fans] 9vx srashes when idle

2009-10-26 Thread Dmitry Golubovsky
On Oct 26, 1:06 am, rminn...@gmail.com (ron minnich) wrote: this info needs more info. what OS? What version? What compiler? What version? thanks ron Died again (less than a minute after start) I started 9vx -t, maximized 9vx window, killed acme and shell window that are created by the

Re: [9fans] Thanks for a neat IWP9!

2009-10-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Stop making me salivate ;-) Post the videos already! ;-) Thanks, Roman. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks to everyone who attended and to Erik Quanstrom and Coraid for a rockin' IWP9. I second that!  It was a great meeting. BLS

Re: [9fans] 9vx srashes when idle

2009-10-26 Thread Dmitry Golubovsky
Hi, On Oct 26, 1:06 am, rminn...@gmail.com (ron minnich) wrote: this info needs more info. what OS? What version? What compiler? What version? thanks ron uname -a Linux archgui 2.6.27-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 21 09:31:10 UTC 2008 i686 QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 AuthenticAMD

Re: [9fans] 9vx srashes when idle

2009-10-26 Thread Dmitry Golubovsky
One more kind of trap (did not cause crash) - not sure when exactly it happened: 76 stats fault 0x33c no segment segment 0xf00 0x1000 segment 0x1000 0x1b000 segment 0x1b000 0x22000 segment 0x22000 0x3a000 76 stats: unhandled fault va=33c [97df233c] eip=33c cpu0: registers for stats 76

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-26 Thread Dmitry Golubovsky
Tim, On Oct 23, 2:23 pm, news...@lava.net (Tim Newsham) wrote: What if you just made a command gnuconfig which rewrote the configure script, fixing the minor defects, and ran the result? Or bound in a dummy ls and egrep before executing the real configure script? Lets keep the infection

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-26 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: I thought it was just wonderful, and noticed similar reactions from everyone else. It was a very fine meeting. Makes me even more sick I was unable to come. could somone post a quick summary of the plan9 extra-cirricular

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-26 Thread hiro
Since the purpose of ape is to emulate the environment configure is expected to run in, and such mismatch has been found, it migh be easier to fix ape than to convince maintaners of autoconf to fix on their side... Why are you so sure they wouldn't fix it? Have you or has anybody you know

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-26 Thread Dmitry Golubovsky
On Oct 26, 9:21 am, 23h...@googlemail.com (hiro) wrote: Since the purpose of ape is to emulate the environment configure is expected to run in, and such mismatch has been found, it migh be easier to fix ape than to convince maintaners of autoconf to fix on their side... Why are you so

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape

2009-10-26 Thread W B Hacker
Dmitry Golubovsky wrote: On Oct 26, 9:21Â am, 23h...@googlemail.com (hiro) wrote: Since the purpose of ape is to emulate the environment configure is expected to run in, and such mismatch has been found, it migh be easier to fix ape than to convince maintaners of autoconf to fix on their

Re: [9fans] 9vx srashes when idle

2009-10-26 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Dmitry Golubovsky golubov...@gmail.com wrote: One more kind of trap (did not cause crash) - not sure when exactly it happened: 76 stats fault 0x33c no segment segment 0xf00 0x1000 segment 0x1000 0x1b000 segment 0x1b000 0x22000 segment 0x22000

Re: [9fans] 9vx srashes when idle

2009-10-26 Thread Dmitry Golubovsky
On Oct 26, 11:09 am, rminn...@gmail.com (ron minnich) wrote: Has anyone else seen these dumps with 9vx? never seen anything like it, which leads me to wonder if you are not tickling a bug in the virtualization. ron- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It could be since it is twice

[9fans] soverflow for fx-in

2009-10-26 Thread Andreas Eriksen
Our cpu/auth/file went belly up some time during the weekend. It responded to ping, but we couldn't drawterm in. No response from the vblade process providing storage to our XenServers either. Walking down to the machine I found the screen full of soverflow for fx-in messages. I had to reboot it

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 VirtualBox

2009-10-26 Thread Jack Norton
Jacob Todd wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 04:28:20PM -0700, Sam'l B wrote: Is anyone working on making them play nice together? Is it possible, even? I get slightly farther with VirtualBox on Vista Home Basic than on Fedora 11, but then things come to a complete halt. Sam'l B.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 VirtualBox

2009-10-26 Thread Sam'l B.
Many thanks -- I'll try that. Sam'l B. Jack Norton wrote: Jacob Todd wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 04:28:20PM -0700, Sam'l B wrote: Is anyone working on making them play nice together? Is it possible, even? I get slightly farther with VirtualBox on Vista Home Basic than on

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-26 Thread erik quanstrom
The problem is, everyone who generates configure by this version (or some range of versions) of autoconf would run into this because this is inserted in the configure's initialization code without any feature tests requested by configure.ac lots of discussion of autoconf at the gsoc mentor's

Re: [9fans] Thanks for a neat IWP9!

2009-10-26 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Oct 25 22:35:13 EDT 2009, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks to everyone who attended and to Erik Quanstrom and Coraid for a rockin' IWP9. I second that! It was a great meeting. you're welcome. but i (and we) should be thanking you for coming and making it a good conference.

Re: [9fans] soverflow for fx-in

2009-10-26 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Oct 26 12:35:07 EDT 2009, andr...@pvv.ntnu.no wrote: Our cpu/auth/file went belly up some time during the weekend. It responded to ping, but we couldn't drawterm in. No response from the vblade process providing storage to our XenServers either. Walking down to the machine I found the

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 VirtualBox

2009-10-26 Thread Antonio Hernández Blas
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jack Norton j...@0x6a.com wrote: Jacob Todd wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 04:28:20PM -0700, Sam'l B wrote:        Is anyone working on making them play nice together?  Is it possible, even?        I  get slightly farther with VirtualBox on Vista Home

[9fans] iwp9 papers posted

2009-10-26 Thread erik quanstrom
http://iwp9.org. i'm sure there are typos. let me know offline. - erik

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 VirtualBox

2009-10-26 Thread Jack Norton
Antonio Hernández Blas wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jack Norton j...@0x6a.com wrote: Jacob Todd wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 04:28:20PM -0700, Sam'l B wrote: Is anyone working on making them play nice together? Is it possible, even? I get slightly

[9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread ron minnich
nebula.nasa.gov and see what you see ron

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread Jacob Todd
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 05:00:53PM -0700, ron minnich wrote: nebula.nasa.gov and see what you see ron I see some buzz-words. Couldn't find anything about Plan {9,b}/Inferno/Octopus. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpMB1JqkhiFb.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread Joseph Stewart
Ron, I'm a noob and a naive. Tell me what I'm missing here... -joe On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:00 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: nebula.nasa.gov and see what you see ron

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread dave . l
I see that I wasted about 3 minutes of my life. On 27 Oct 2009, at 00:00, ron minnich wrote: nebula.nasa.gov and see what you see ron

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread Geoffrey Avila
I see FOUR lights!! I see that NASA has enough funding to sell itself as a supplier of IT services of last resort. At least, I think that's what it says, given that the encrustation of B-School logorrhea on that site is making me dizzy.* I'm interested in what their terms of service might be.

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread Jeff Sickel
From what I see... it doesn't have any acronyms that: 1) end in an 'I' 2) begin with an 'I' 3) have the word 'intelligent' in a descriptor Though I am a bit worried about the choice of AIX as the replacement for Mae West. Wait! I'm wrong. In the services section there is 'IaaS'.

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread Latchesar Ionkov
Did anybody come up with cloud management software called Zeus or Jupiter yet? On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:00 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: nebula.nasa.gov and see what you see ron

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Latchesar Ionkov lu...@ionkov.net wrote: Did anybody come up with cloud management software called Zeus or Jupiter yet? interesting. I got arg. you broke it. and you guys got the web page and I just did. And, yes, it's another !@@#$! cloud. But why is USG

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread andrey mirtchovski
Clouds, Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Put All My Computing Where It Don't Belong. I admit to a certain amount of glee seeing the news about major outages of cloud services appear with predictable regularity: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/22/cloud_storage_concerns/ for example.

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread ron minnich
How about: Clouds: how we reinvented the time sharing bureau, which we all hated, back in the day, and replaced with our own computers, and recreated the time sharing bureau in our own company, and hated it, and now our management has decided they hate us and want to fire our IT people and trust

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread ron minnich
true story: some ex-(name withheld) people were telling me they loved their (name withheld) IT guys. Then (name withheld), for its own reasons, decided to outsource their IT people. You'd recognize (name withheld); it's one of the biggest computer companies out there. They also like to sell their

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread W B Hacker
ron minnich wrote: How about: Clouds: how we reinvented the time sharing bureau, which we all hated, back in the day, and replaced with our own computers, and recreated the time sharing bureau in our own company, and hated it, and now our management has decided they hate us and want to fire our

[9fans] 9vx and tcp564

2009-10-26 Thread ron minnich
note to make this work you need to run as root, not an ordinary user ... ron

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-26 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
nebula.nasa.gov After an extensive trade study, we selected Django, a python-based web application framework, as the first and primary application environment for the Nebula Cloud. probably not the sharpest knives in the nasa kitchen.