Re: [9fans] 9vx mk install chokes on gs

2010-09-12 Thread ron minnich
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:59 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: -#define      USTKTOP         (0x400)             /* byte just beyond user stack */ +#define      USTKTOP         (0x800)             /* byte just beyond user stack */ shouldn't you add a 0 to that?  

[9fans] Today's SecureNet Key

2010-09-12 Thread Akshat
The Plan 9 manual still contains the securenet(8) manpage and several reference to this old hardware. I would like to get it, but it seems Digital Pathways (or AssureNet Pathways) products are no longer available anywhere (they would now be part of Symantec, which is not really in the

[9fans] sam: mouse focus, chords

2010-09-12 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello, If I am right, there are some patches enabling mouse chords in sam as well as using focus follows mouse (like acme). I found some kind of the former in Steve Simon's contrib. What about the latter? Thanks Ruda

Re: [9fans] Today's SecureNet Key

2010-09-12 Thread Charles Forsyth
when i can't use cpu and secstore to log in directly, i use netkey. there are non-Plan9 implementations of netkey. i think i've got a Java version somewhere.

Re: [9fans] docfonts problem

2010-09-12 Thread Russ Cox
do you have the fonts? they do not come with plan9port, because the postscript fonts cannot be redistributed except with plan 9 itself. turns out no.  Here is a sticky question (one I will likely have to write Bigelow Holmes for final clarification), but if I write a script (portage

Re: [9fans] 9vx mk install chokes on gs

2010-09-12 Thread Russ Cox
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:59 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: -#define      USTKTOP         (0x400)             /* byte just beyond user stack */ +#define      USTKTOP         (0x800)             /* byte just beyond user stack */ shouldn't you add a 0 to that?  

[9fans] 9vx/vx32 - Out of ignorance

2010-09-12 Thread Lucio De Re
Besides the issue of (not) understanding TAP and so having no access to networking, what struck me while experimenting with a very remarkable 9vx installation (9vx is impressive, not my installation thereof :-) was that if you start it as root, you retain root credentials within the sandbox,

Re: [9fans] 9vx mk install chokes on gs

2010-09-12 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Sep 12 11:45:31 EDT 2010, r...@swtch.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:59 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: -#define      USTKTOP         (0x400)             /* byte just beyond user stack */ +#define      USTKTOP         (0x800)             /* byte just

Re: [9fans] docfonts problem

2010-09-12 Thread EBo
As I said, I would ask Bigelow Holmes for final clarification before releasing anything. I am not trying to dance around the license, but get clarification on what is OK. I have made it a habit of asking people here, and elsewhere, if there they would mind if I do something in a particular

Re: [9fans] 9vx/vx32 - Out of ignorance

2010-09-12 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Lucio De Re lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: Back to the question, then: is there any reason why I should not be looking into doing this? I'm kind of a go ahead and do it person w.r.t. this, and I certainly have no ownership of 9vx, so I'd say why not? The more the

Re: [9fans] 9vx/vx32 - Out of ignorance

2010-09-12 Thread yy
2010/9/12 Lucio De Re lu...@proxima.alt.za: My thinking is that 9vx could start up as root to install the TAP device (nothing else so far has alerted me to a need for root permissions), then switch user to the selected one (if it exists, nobody may be needed if there is no equivalent in the

Re: [9fans] Today's SecureNet Key

2010-09-12 Thread Akshat
Is there any way to have the auth server require netkey only when connections are from outside the local network? Thanks, ak On Sep 12, 2010, at 6:49, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: when i can't use cpu and secstore to log in directly, i use netkey. there are non-Plan9

Re: [9fans] docfonts problem

2010-09-12 Thread Russ Cox
Now for the problem behind all this.  I am basically required to use troff for formatting the iwp9 paper submissions.  I have asked repeatedly for the a TeX macros, or the source for an acceptable macro.ms equivalents.  All of these requests have been greeted with silence because someone, and

Re: [9fans] 9vx mk install chokes on gs

2010-09-12 Thread Russ Cox
another reason for the low size was so that it was easier to keep multiple processes mapped at the same time, to reduce context switch latency. that makes sense.  unfortunately, this means that any process that uses significant memory on plan 9 needs to be re-checked for 9vx.  even 100mb is

Re: [9fans] troff fonts with special characters

2010-09-12 Thread Akshat
If you like the cleanliness and simplicity of troff files for writing papers, and would like to avoid the hideousness of TeX, then you might want to try Lout. I ported it to Plan 9 earlier this year and just copied it to my contrib: contrib/akumar/lout.tgz Best of luck, ak On Sep 12,

Re: [9fans] docfonts problem

2010-09-12 Thread EBo
It's just not that hard to use the iwp9 macros with plan9port. They work fine, and if you put .FP luxisans at the top of your ms file you can get a nice-looking BH-designed sans serif font too. And then when you submit the source to them you or they can delete that one line. It's easy.

Re: [9fans] 9vx mk install chokes on gs

2010-09-12 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: (and actually i thought the 9vx limit was 256 MB; maybe ron cranked it down.) I don't think so but I'll dig around. ron

Re: [9fans] 9vx/vx32 - Out of ignorance

2010-09-12 Thread Bakul Shah
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 19:30:05 +0200 yy yiyu@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/12 Lucio De Re lu...@proxima.alt.za: My thinking is that 9vx could start up as root to install the TAP device (nothing else so far has alerted me to a need for root permissions), then switch user to the selected one (if

Re: [9fans] 9vx/vx32 - Out of ignorance

2010-09-12 Thread Lucio De Re
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 07:30:05PM +0200, yy wrote: 2010/9/12 Lucio De Re lu...@proxima.alt.za: My thinking is that 9vx could start up as root [ ... ] The advantage of the tap device is precisely that it does not need root permissions. You need those permissions to manage the devices,

Re: [9fans] troff fonts with special characters

2010-09-12 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 12 September 2010 20:25, Akshat aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net wrote: If you like the cleanliness and simplicity of troff files for writing papers, and would like to avoid the hideousness of TeX, then you might want to try Lout. I ported it to Plan 9 earlier this year and just copied it to my

Re: [9fans] 9vx/vx32 - Out of ignorance

2010-09-12 Thread Lucio De Re
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:27:07PM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote: On a mac you don't need root perms to open a tap device. This is sorted out to my satisfaction, thank you. Here you have two choices: I think I lack some of the terminology to get my mind around all this, but some

Re: [9fans] 9vx mk install chokes on gs

2010-09-12 Thread yy
2010/9/12 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com: Ah. It was 256 MB but Yiyus changed it 8 weeks ago to 64MB. Why? Sorry about that. It was after updating all the a/ files from the .ed scripts. It looks like I did not pay enough attention to mem.ed. There were other changes that could be causing

Re: [9fans] 9vx/vx32 - Out of ignorance

2010-09-12 Thread yy
2010/9/12 Lucio De Re lu...@proxima.alt.za: It's very, very helpful.  I would, and almost certainly will, have split the tunnel and openvpn portions into two scripts (a selector of some type might be good enough, but isn't easily justified), because I'm sure that they don't overlap quite the

Re: [9fans] troff fonts with special characters

2010-09-12 Thread Akshat
You are right in that Lout cannot handle non-ASCII input, which is something that kept me from using it much, as well. However, the overall approach to the syntax and what not is much nicer than TeX. Also, I would argue that Lout has much nicer output than both, troff and TeX. On Sep 12,