[9fans] Indoor and outdoor plumbing

2010-10-21 Thread Jeffrey Green
Hello everyone, I'm still fairly new to plan9 after only a little over a week of exposure and intense absorption into that world. At this point, I'm coming up for air in order to see what the long time prospects are. To be honest, I'm not sure, in particular with respect to its life outside a

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
there is a pull script in glenda's bin. use that. - erik I was giving that a shot, but get a few errors. Looks like it's not pulling new files: ! sys/src/cmd/ratrace.c: not replicated; will not update ! sys/src/9/kw/devtwsi.c: not replicated; will not update ! sys/src/9/omap/screen.c: not

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Steve Simon
error: copying /n/boot/386/9load: '/tmp/replica00098100' permission denied Not somthing as trivial as you have no /tmp? (its usually bound to $home/tmp in profile). So is the proper thing to do to convert a new install to a cpu/file server (fossil) to change ownership of all files to

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Lucio De Re
You might want to look at /tmp, you may not have a writable one from the login. Executing ramfs normally takes care of that issue. I saw the ratrace.c error this early morning, but it seems to have been transient. I guess you ought to try a second time, by then somebody more savvy than me

Re: [9fans] /sys/src/cmd source rebuild

2010-10-21 Thread erik quanstrom
There is a small error in the compilation of /sys/src/cmd/ip/snoopy (for the ARM, I expect the same for the 386 ... and it is): mk snoopy 5c -FTVw aoemask.c ip/snoopy/aoemask.c:42 name not declared: aoerr mk: 5c -FTVw aoemask.c : exit status=rc 5630: 5c 5632: error

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread erik quanstrom
This is on a combined CPU/auth server, and was run as the hostowner (bootes). Are the permissions wrong out-of-the-box? Could this be because some directories are owned by sys while others by bootes? bootes is a member of the sys group, but as we discussed previously, that won't be

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Benjamin Huntsman bhunts...@mail2.cu-portland.edu wrote: bootes is a member of the sys group, but as we discussed previously, that won't be honored in the current implementation. I'm pretty sure we did not say anything like that. ron

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread ron minnich
The most effective way I've found to build from sources is to use mercurial. The second most effective way is replica. I have found I quite enjoy building from and hacking on a sources tree backed by mercurial. YMMV. ron

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
this is almost certainly incorrect. (you don't mention you're using 9vx' #Z.) plan 9 fileservers that store files on disk (fossil, kfs, kenfs, cwfs, etc) do maintain their own groups. you may wish to put your fs into allow mode for pull. it's plan 9 file servers living in the local kernel, e.g.

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Steve Simon
you may wish to put your fs into allow mode for pull. You can do that on fossil? I thought you had to have kfs for that? I don't believe you can simply switch fossil into and out of allow mode, you can specify -P to open to disable permission checking (enable allow) see fossilcons(8) but that

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread erik quanstrom
Wasn't that what we found just last week regarding the /dev/sd00/nvram thing? This is on native Plan 9, (er, under VMware), not 9vx or anything like that. The filesystem is fossil, not kfs. i think you are confusing the block filesystem served by #S, which does not do (real) group

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I don't believe you can simply switch fossil into and out of allow mode, you can specify -P to open to disable permission checking (enable allow) see fossilcons(8) but that would require a reboot. As I described before, this should not be necessary, and is not for me. just run bull as hostowner,

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Yaroslav
sys/src/9/omap/screen.c: not replicated; will not update I wonder if your replica databases have got in a mess? Somone whith more nous of replicas internals may be able to help there. -Steve Local replica DB mismatches can be handled like pull conflicts: with either -s path or -c path. In

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Yaroslav
I think it worths to mention: for convenience, run as hostworner once: cd mkdir lib/replica cp -x /dist/replica/network lib/replica/sys Since then, pulls can be done as easy as replica/pull -v sys - Yaroslav

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Brian L. Stuart
Wasn't that what we found just last week regarding the /dev/sd00/nvram thing?  This is on native Plan 9, (er, under VMware), not 9vx or anything like that.  The filesystem is fossil, not kfs. The file servers that maintain on-disk file systems like kfs, fossil, kenfs, etc. all do use groups

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Brian L. Stuart
I'll check the permissions on /tmp, and I bet you're right there. There's a good chance your /tmp issue is not permissions, but a lack of /tmp being mounted. If your hostowner doesn't have a lib/profile or its lib/profile doesn't mount /tmp, then you won't be able to write anything to it. As

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread erik quanstrom
The file servers that maintain on-disk file systems like kfs, fossil, kenfs, etc. all do use groups in the expected way. yes. but there are obscure exceptions. dossrv is fully updatable, but doesn't bother with groups. but of course that's cheating. fat doesn't even support users. and it