[9fans] what heavy negativity!

2018-10-04 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
man, i experienced such heavy negativity towards my efforts to build a linux kernel based plan9port vehicle that i am sure considering abandoning the effort. the idea was to have a 64-bit linux kernel with the advantages of plan9port (small and elegantly designed+developed tools). no, really,

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Bakul Shah
On Oct 3, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > aram, by a complete, installable system for plan9port, i meant a > distribution running the linux kernel, bionic, plan9port, minimal xorg. > that distribution would be bootable off a usb disk and can be installed > to your harddisk like any

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread sl

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread hiro
feel free to build your own community based on ignoring things. there's a lot to learn from one another, and you can overcome bad emotions with long-term technical acchievements, passion and friendship.

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Steven Stallion
Communication is not a zero-sum game. Having a public mailing list is an invitation for discussion amongst likeminded individuals, not elitist fuckery. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > just add something positive then >

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
> given the attitudes that seem so prevalent these days. You are mistaken, it has always been like this. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Alexander Keller
Don't worry, these arguments happen, have happened, and will continue. Ham radio for example has the saying, "The only thing two hams can agree on is the third is a fool." The only difference is that text divorces empathy from the discussion. Best way to help, if you don't think someone's idea

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread hiro
just add something positive then

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Based on my personal observations of extermist behavior of various sort (social, technical, religious), I think we can look forward to bifurcation adinfinitum until the last man. On this subject, if someone wants to do something for his/her own pleasure and edification, I can't see what harm it

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Steven Stallion
I'm beginning to wonder if anyone is left that isn't part of 9front? This behavior is caustic and does nothing but continue to shrink the size of this list. At this point, I'm considering dropping off as others have given the attitudes that seem so prevalent these days. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:05

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
OH MY GOD, I installed plan9port so hard right now. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Steve Simon
good grief guys. can we all just play nice? there no need to get personal, if you don't like an idea say so an explain why. if you cannot be bothered to be grown up, then just keep quiet. -Steve

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:33:33AM +0100, Rui Carmo wrote: > > Regular aggressive is taking things outside the realm of civilised discourse, > which is easy to do behind a keyboard, since being irate at abstract things > seems to be a slippery slope when removed from regular human contact. Nah,

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread hiro
the longer you argue here the harder it will be for you to find time to proves us all wrong.

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Iruatã Souza
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:35 AM Rui Carmo wrote: > > I’ll bite, partially because I’m used to finding resistance to exploratory > ideas and learning paths, but mostly because I find this kind of passionate, > biased argument fascinating in tech contexts... > > > On 4 Oct 2018, at 09:50, Kurt H

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Rui Carmo
I’ll bite, partially because I’m used to finding resistance to exploratory ideas and learning paths, but mostly because I find this kind of passionate, biased argument fascinating in tech contexts... > On 4 Oct 2018, at 09:50, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 08:50:35AM +0100,

Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

2018-10-04 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
grep pattern /dev/text # a.k.a /dev/wsys/`{read /dev/winid}^/text On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:30 AM Rudolf Sykora wrote: > On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 09:22, Ethan Gardener wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the

Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

2018-10-04 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: > On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 09:22, Ethan Gardener wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then > > > cat the file. > > > > This is my

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 08:50:35AM +0100, Rui Carmo wrote: > I wouldn’t allow the passive-aggressive mood that surfaces here from > time to time to turn me off the project. How about regular aggressive? Starting with "what project?" We're gonna slap down an alpine rootfs and throw plan9port

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Rui Carmo wrote: > I wouldn’t allow the passive-aggressive mood that surfaces here from > time to time to turn me off the project. > > That said, I’m fascinated by how often (and how quickly) some threads > devolve into “there is no point in doing that” or “we

Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

2018-10-04 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 09:22, Ethan Gardener wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then > > cat the file. > > This is my preferred option too. Also works in 9term. I liked to play MUDs > this

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, at 4:44 AM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 11:23:45PM +0200, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > > > i had been trying to work with a collaborator to develop a complete, > > > installable system for plan9port. > > > > Plan9port is already installable. > > aram, by a

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Rui Carmo
I wouldn’t allow the passive-aggressive mood that surfaces here from time to time to turn me off the project. That said, I’m fascinated by how often (and how quickly) some threads devolve into “there is no point in doing that” or “we don’t need those modern contraptions” arguments - reminds

Re: [9fans] plan9port : complete system : kernel : freebsd || linux ?

2018-10-04 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:49 AM, wrote: > what is the point of this exercise? > To appear stupid, apparently, -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

2018-10-04 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat > the file. This is my preferred option too. Also works in 9term. I liked to play MUDs this way, but without color I missed stuff. -- Progress might have