[9fans] Last 9pi.img.gz

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[9fans] Last 9pi.img.gz

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I usually run Plan9 in a vm under Win7. Chris McGee wrote: Hi All, I'm working on some documentation and would like to include a portion of the screen in a particular window. What's a good way to take the shot but also snip out the piece that I'm interested in? Thanks, Chris

Re: [9fans] IP Multicast - Results

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Re: [9fans] vmware shared folders

Skip Tavakkolian wrote: are you able to ping guest-to-host and host-to-guest? is windows firewall turned on? ping ok in both directions, firewall off boxA is Win7-64, the Plan9 distro in the VM (on boxA) is from Bell, downloaded a few days ago. I don't know if there could be a

Re: [9fans] vmware shared folders

Skip Tavakkolian wrote: The 386 binaries for aux/vmwarefs and aux/isvmware, etc. are still available but the corresponding sources are gone. You could try those. I have them but no their doc. Is it available ? NDA == Non Disclosure Agreement ? You could run a 9p based server like u9fs

Re: [9fans] vmware shared folders

Jadon Bennett wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 03:48:25AM +0200, Adriano Verardo wrote: Currently I send files from Plan9/VMware to a remote Win7 box using cifs. I would like to store directly on the local box. I don't know much about VMWare, but are you able to run samba or similar on your host

[9fans] vmware shared folders

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Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

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Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

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[9fans] rpi boot

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Re: [9fans] About IL

Charles Forsyth wrote: On 20 October 2015 at 17:14, Adriano Verardo <adriano.vera...@mail.com <mailto:adriano.vera...@mail.com>> wrote: Could IL be actually more effective than TCP/IP in a closed net ? I think about a robotic application using very small cpus. Wha

[9fans] About IL

Could IL be actually more effective than TCP/IP in a closed net ? I think about a robotic application using very small cpus. What about Styx -- ore something similar - over IL ? adriano

Re: [9fans] Out of pseudo mount points

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Re: [9fans] Out of pseudo mount points

erik quanstrom wrote: On Wed Sep 23 15:34:38 PDT 2015, adriano.vera...@mail.com wrote: I have 2 identical hosts (same hw, same kernel, same cpurc, ) ... but A# import -b B /srv /srv A# mount /srv/kfs /n/k beeing /srv/kfs imported from B, works as expected and B# import -b A /srv /srv B#

[9fans] Bell Labs web site

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Re: [9fans] Bell Labs web site

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[9fans] Out of pseudo mount points

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[9fans] oseekb dd option

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[9fans] Atom kernels

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Re: [9fans] Atom kernels

erik quanstrom ha scritto: On Mon Mar 31 12:24:24 EDT 2014, adriano.vera...@mail.com wrote: I, all I'm building some Atom install kits, each customised to fit a (my very) particular need. The kernel I rebuilt don't deal with 4K disk. Mbr complains about this but it is the same on all distros

Re: [9fans] Atom kernels

erik quanstrom ha scritto: On Mon Mar 31 12:24:24 EDT 2014,adriano.vera...@mail.com wrote: I, all I'm building some Atom install kits, each customised to fit a (my very) particular need. The kernel I rebuilt don't deal with 4K disk. Mbr complains about this but it is the same on all distros

Re: [9fans] 9atom usb image

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Re: [9fans] No regression tests

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Re: [9fans] No regression tests

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Re: [9fans] 9atom usb image

erik quanstrom ha scritto: i think it's time to get rid of the +usbinstamd64.bz image. the process seems to work pretty well. updates to the image will be here starting immediately: http://ftp.9atom.org/other/usbinstamd64.bz2 - erik This image behaves as follows: ... 8._cp

Re: [9fans] No regression tests

lu...@proxima.alt.za ha scritto: but the kernel is rebuilt frequently and the sources are upgraded, non regularly, 3/4 times in a year. You could bisect the kernel from the history and try to locate the change that way. There have been recent changes to USB, so that's where you should look

Re: [9fans] No regression tests

erik quanstrom ha scritto: On Tue Mar 25 01:51:36 EDT 2014, adriano.vera...@mail.com wrote: A few weeks ago i wrote about an unkillable manager of usb barcode readers. That code worked perfectly for 5+ years, with absolutely no changes. IMHO the problem seems to be a change in Bell kernel

[9fans] usbinstamd64 file system full

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[9fans] No regression tests

A few weeks ago i wrote about an unkillable manager of usb barcode readers. That code worked perfectly for 5+ years, with absolutely no changes. IMHO the problem seems to be a change in Bell kernel sources, as under 9Atom all works as expected. Unfortunately I can't say what is the last

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Hi, all The archive of both Labs and Atom releases is very useful. Expecially for whoever work with industrial hw, as it is structurally out of date and, more, usually must be maintained in service for a long. I am very grateful to all who maintain this service. Are there other archives/mirrors

[9fans] two nics 8139

Hi, all. I have 2 nics rtl8139, both successfully probed as l0 and l1 but in /net I see only the interface ether0 to l0 and /net.alt is empty. Where can I find a doc about how to configure 2 tcp stacks and/or to use 2 nics through the same stack ? Thanks in advance adriano

Re: [9fans] two nics 8139

that docs. Thanks a lot for the hints, Skip adriano On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Adriano Verardo adriano.vera...@mail.com mailto:adriano.vera...@mail.com wrote: Hi, all. I have 2 nics rtl8139, both successfully probed as l0 and l1 but in /net I see only the interface ether0 to l0

Re: [9fans] two nics 8139

Charles Forsyth ha scritto: On 13 March 2014 15:44, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com mailto:skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: # second ethernet card bind -b '#l1' /net.alt You can also add it as another ether on the same IP stack: bind -b '#l1' /net and then use

Re: [9fans] two nics 8139

erik quanstrom ha scritto: ok, thanks. If the goal is to manage two separate networks, one local and the other for remote/restricted access only, its better to have 2 stacks or 2 nics under the same stack ? i don't know about better, but it's certainly easier to think about two seperate

Re: [9fans] two nics 8139

Charles Forsyth ha scritto: On 13 March 2014 16:09, Adriano Verardo adriano.vera...@mail.com mailto:adriano.vera...@mail.com wrote: If the goal is to manage two separate networks, one local and the other for remote/restricted access only, its better to have 2 stacks or 2 nics

[9fans] About plan9.ini

I've Plan9 on sdCO and sometimes want to boot from sdE0 (CFlash on ide) or from a usb key. The other devices boots but it seems that the used plan9.ini is always from sdC0. Probably something wrong on the CF/key devs I built. But, just to be sure, shouldn't always be used the plan9.ini from the

Re: [9fans] About plan9.ini

erik quanstrom ha scritto: On Mon Mar 10 17:53:54 EDT 2014, adriano.vera...@mail.com wrote: I've Plan9 on sdCO and sometimes want to boot from sdE0 (CFlash on ide) or from a usb key. The other devices boots but it seems that the used plan9.ini is always from sdC0. Probably something wrong on

Re: [9fans] About plan9.ini

erik quanstrom ha scritto: What about Lab's 9load or 9Load on old 9Atom distros ? with 9load, you've got no options. 9load is just working against the machine. - erik Not sure to have unserstood. Does it mean that plan9.ini is sequentially searched in a fixed order no matter what is the

[9fans] How to kill a process

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Re: [9fans] Bell usb keys boot fails

Nick Owens ha scritto: On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 06:19:57PM +0100, Adriano Verardo wrote: Hi, all The Bell usb image doesn't boot on some (IMHO) very common machines. Screenshots available on you could just try adding the did to /sys/src/9/pc/sdiahci.c:1939 and recompile a new kernel. I can

[9fans] Bell usb keys boot fails

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Re: [9fans] 9atom Boot Error

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[9fans] 9Atom download fails

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[9fans] Bell latest distro install problems

Install fails on Dell Optiplex 3010 and Asus motherboards too, which are both largely diffused here (Italy). Dell 3010 is the standard for several big companies and the most important computer chain stores sell Asus powered machines. To buy supported foreign boxes for a client is possible only

Re: [9fans] Bell latest distro install problems

erik quanstrom ha scritto: On Fri Feb 21 12:38:19 EST 2014, adriano.vera...@mail.com wrote: Install fails on Dell Optiplex 3010 and Asus motherboards too, which are both largely diffused here (Italy). Dell 3010 is the standard for several big companies and the most important computer chain

Re: [9fans] usbinstamd64 on Dell 3010

Joseph Thompson ha scritto: On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 21:01:20 +0100 Adriano Verardo adriano.vera...@mail.com wrote: Do you know how to reliably dd an usb key under win7 ? adriano Win32DiskImager seems to be the usual recommendation in my experience. I'm afraid I can't vouch for its reliability

Re: [9fans] usbinstamd64 on Dell 3010

erik quanstrom ha scritto: final result is exactly the same. i blame the usb driver. i hope to get some time to look at it today. - erik I'm observing that, with different fresh usb keys and writing tools, the error is (almost) always the same. A long long time ago I had a similar

[9fans] Dell 3010 install problems - all tested kits

Hi, all A synthesis of 1 week of attempts. A fresh Dell 3010, AHCI, several fresh USB keys. Bell's, 9Atom and 9Front don'install. usbinstamd64: several issues, as already documented in another thread. An additional note: a persistent addpart: #S/sdE0: i/o error message. 9Atom cd downloaded

Re: [9fans] Dell 3010 install problems - all tested kits

Adriano Verardo ha scritto: Hi, all The 2012 9Atom cd behaves exactly as the latest one. adriano

Re: [9fans] Dell 3010 install problems - all tested kits

Additional info: Some noisy cpu0: spuriuos interrupt 39, last12 (and last 1). cat /dev/kprint in a hidden win to have clean pictures. adriano

Re: [9fans] Dell 3010 install problems - all tested kits

FreeBSD 9.0 installs. Could its boot log be useful ? adriano

Re: [9fans] Dell 3010 install problems - all tested kits

erik quanstrom ha scritto: thanks. this confirms that the issue appears to be that you have a 4k sector drive. i think i have this fixed. the .iso is updated. give me a few hrs to rebuild my environment (and fight the usual fires) so i can generate and test a new image. further image

[9fans] usbinstamd64 on Dell 3010

Hi, all The same usbinstamd64 (image and physical USB key) on both DELL 3010 and ASUS H61M-K boot regularly till the root is from (il, local)[local!#S/sdu0/fs/ -B 1]: message. On CR confirm crashes saying connect ... boot: can't connect to file server: '#S/sdu0/fs' does not exist IMHO

Re: [9fans] usbinstamd64 on Dell 3010

erik quanstrom ha scritto: After a lot of attempts with very new keys of different brand/size, the same image on the 3010 the boot reaches the init: starting /bin/rc point. Then 10+ minutes of silence, a message too fast to be catched with a camera, and and a 1+ hour

Re: [9fans] usbinstamd64 on Dell 3010

erik quanstrom ha scritto: Yes, a few minutes after the CR for mouse selection [USB], ^T^Tr reboots the machine. so the ^T^Tr takes a few minutes to take effect? - erik no, it is quite immediate == a few seconds to see the BIOS boot messages adriano

[9fans] Kontron industrial PCs

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Re: [9fans] Kontron industrial PCs

erik quanstrom ha scritto: the pc kernel is still available. unfortunately the usb installer will install only amd64. i have a couple of requests to install 386, so i'll take a look at that. The machines are Tecnint HTE (italian hw manufacturer/integrator) industrial-rugged-fanless etc etc

[9fans] Installl fails on Dell Optiplex 745 / 3010

Hi all Both Bell and 9Atom distros install fail, in native mode, on Dell Optiplex models 745 (2008) and 3010 (2013). IMHO, the problem is the AHCI, which is not correcty recognised/managed in both native and SATA mode. Any suggestion ? Thanks in advance adriano

[9fans] Atom upgrade

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Re: [9fans] Atom upgrade

erik quanstrom ha scritto: On Thu Feb 14 08:58:03 EST 2013, adriano.vera...@mail.com wrote: Hi, all. Is it possibile to upgrade the Atom distro likewise the Bell's one ? hi, not really. (working on it) right now, mkfs makes a pretty good substitute. it knows enough not to copy older files.

[9fans] Multicast

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[9fans] Tread and alarm

Hi, all In a user space file server (9p(2)/9pfile(2)/...) I postpone the Rread response if there are no available data, in order to implement a suspensive read(). The client is (really?) suspended until Tread, but the read() sys call cannot be interrupted by alarm(). It seems to me that

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Errata: ... alarm note is received after Rread, as if the ... sorry :-) Adriano Verardo wrote: Hi, all In a user space file server (9p(2)/9pfile(2)/...) I postpone the Rread response if there are no available data, in order to implement a suspensive read(). The client is (really

Re: [9fans] Tread and alarm

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[9fans] Report on fossil robustness

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[9fans] Fossil robustness

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Re: [9fans] Fossil robustness

maht wrote: On 20/04/2010 11:45, Adriano Verardo wrote: Hi all. I'm building an industrial application hosted by several independent cpu server, each of them booted from a CFlash on sdD0. The application doesn't write on sdD0 and there are no redirection on local files in the cpurc

Re: [9fans] Fossil robustness

John Soros wrote: Hello Adriano, Have you disabled all snapshotting features? Usiong open -r? How are you starting fossil, what's your configuration? Hi, John fsys main open -AWVP -c 3000 srv fossil srv -p fscons on /dev/sdD0/fossil open -r guarantees that fossil doesn't do physycal

Re: [9fans] Fossil robustness

erik quanstrom wrote: I've made a customized install procedure copying from the standard one. Where can i find a procedure for kfs to copy from? Can kfs be configured to be absolutely insentive to hard power down ? absolutely is too strong. if one turns off atime with kfscmd/atime, it

Re: [9fans] Install CD hanging on probing floppy

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[9fans] About usb mouse wheel

Hi, all. The wheel of all USB mice I purchased in the last year is not managed by Plan9. All of them work perfectly with FreeBSD and Windows. No problem with Plan9 using the PS/2 interface + adaptor, but notebooks have only USB ports. The products on the (italian) marketplace change frequently.

Re: [9fans] Unexpected 8c warning message

erik quanstrom wrote: It's a pity. In other - more complicated - situations I found such warnings appropriate and very helpful. Could that case be recognised during the variable-scope analysis on the intermediate format (tuples ?) ? I don't remember what D.Gries and others said about and I

Re: [9fans] Unexpected 8c warning message

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Re: [9fans] Unexpected 8c warning message

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Re: [9fans] Unexpected 8c warning message

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[9fans] binary sprint format

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Re: [9fans] binary sprint format

erik quanstrom wrote: On Thu Aug 6 20:03:20 EDT 2009, a.vera...@tecmav.com wrote: Hi, all I'm trying to convert integers in text binary format by sprint(..., %b, i), but 8c issue a format mismatch b INT warning message. Can anyone kindly explain to me my mistake ? Doesn't %b behave

Re: [9fans] binary sprint format

erik quanstrom wrote: i believe you need to update your libc.h. you need pragmas for the b format, which were added 2007/0108. - erik I'm using a distribution downloaded about 2 months ago. The machine has been installed from scratch. perhaps you have not included

Re: [9fans] binary sprint format

j...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: the kernel library include file (../port/lib.h) does not have a pragma in it for %b. if this is indeed a kernel driver you are writing then you should add the pragma in the driver: #pragma varargcktypeb int the reason the kernel does not just use

[9fans] Question about Plan9 project

Hi all, As a professional user I think that Plan9 could be better than *nix for a large class of industrial - not time critical - applications but in Italy nobody use it, except of no more than a dozen of fans. The University doesn't know it at all. Of course, this is what I see. I would be

Re: [9fans] Question about Plan9 project

dorin bumbu wrote: There are thousands of devices shipped with Microsoft Windows CE prior to version 4 (.NET). For these devices MS never offered patches even if these versions had lots of bugs, nor even standard C libraries (thank God there is wcecompat). And there are lot of projects that

Re: [9fans] Question about Plan9 project

Anthony Sorace wrote: i, at least, would be interested to know more about what the specific concerns are. that is, is it about availability, future evolution, commercial support, or something else? anthony Mainly availability. In the past I had some difficulties when I suggested to use

[9fans] About Plan9 on small systems

Hi, all Some time go I read about Plan9 on microcontrollers. Is this an interesting argument for the 9fans community ? adriano

[9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

Maintenance ? adriano

[9fans] multiport serial

Hi, all Does anyone know what kind of multiport serial cards is currently well supported by Plan9 ? Thanks adriano

Re: [9fans] multiport serial

Thank you very much, erik. Does Plan9 manage PC104 (ISA) cards ? From man plan9.ini I know they are obsolete but I'm trying to port an automation system under Plan9 and must deal with strict hardware constraints. adriano

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