i think the drawterm port would be interesting, but how to deal with
the mismatch between the touch and 3-button-mouse interfaces seems
like a big issue. i don't yet have an iPhone or iPod Touch, but for
me, drawterm would push me over for the later.
for André (or anyone with similar interests),
There's a GSoC-specific google group for tossing ideas around in, and
later for student discussion and ongoing work. You're encouraged to
propose project ideas and whatnot there. join plan9-gsoc. If you
decide you want to mentor, specifically, contact me directly.
i was looking at this a week or two ago, trying to find an ARM or MIPS
laptop to play with. my first question was whether the missing parts
of the MIPS instruction set are things that our compilers currently
generate; SoC (oh, and my day job) ramped up before i could find the
list of missing
I've started using Twitter. There, I said it.
I actually signed up for twitter to follow a few 9fans, which seems
sort of weirdly ironic to me. Now with a bunch of GSoC related news
flying around on it, I've actually started using it (lightly), much to
my surprise (and occasional dismay). Going
discussion specific to
GSoC will be taking place in the plan9-gsoc Google group, or on
#plan9-gsoc on freenode.
Anthony Sorace
Tiny Core Linux looks interesting. Played around a bit in a VM tonight
and will be trying it on the ThinkPad tomorrow. I'm curious about your
setup. I assume you're using 9vx directly for graphics, no more
drawterm? You run within X?
My attempt tomorrow is going to be giving a GB or two to Linux
I recently got a relatively modern ThinkPad. I figured it might be a
good chance to play with something new, and THnX has always looked
interesting. I have Ron's stuff from August or so; is that still the
latest? Is there a better way to run Plan 9 in lguest, with as minimal
a Linux underneath as
did you stick your key in /lib/gmapkey? does /lib/sky/here have a
sensible value?
Our application for Google Summer of Code 2009 has been submitted.
Over the next week, Google will be selecting about 150 projects from
the 395 that applied, and will announce the list on March 18th.
// //But I have no idea if you can run fossil in p9p.
// I think you can't.
not currently, but it'd be nice. i'd like to be able to serve a
fossil fs from my laptop to 9vx instances. maybe a rainy weekend project.
given a list of files like /fish /dog /snake/asp /snake/python, the
results of a vac (as interpreted by vacfs) seem to be /fish /dog /asp
/python. is this intentional? it seems unexpected, and makes doing
selective backups using vac a bit awkward.
this is vac on p9p and vacfs on plan9, if that
i'm not sure whether the MMIX stuff was a fresh effort or an extension
of the MIX code, but it might be worth noting that someone (Charles, i
think) ported MIX years ago. perhaps a useful starting point.
On 2009-03-09, Paweł Lasek pawel.la...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 14:35,
So, the web site's up, program is announced, and so on.
Was anyone planning on doing a Plan 9 application? I'm willing to
help, if anyone was planning on it, or lead, if not. In the later
case, I'd appreciate help (any of advice, materials, or labor) from
people who were involved in our last two
i agree complaining about the formats is pointless. and hey, at least
it's text. last plain text format with slightly awkward lines i had to
play with, they went and changed the next version to be ASN.1.
but i don't think the suggestions here for how to make it play well
with Acme are all that
i could see this going either way, but from my perspective the linker
did what you told it. it didn't see anything it couldn't recognize,
and didn't find any symbols it wasn't able to resolve. it's a weird
case, certainly, but it doesn't strike me as wrong.
if i were inclined to submit a patch,
do you do that by executing Font in each window?
IIRC, acme tries to move the tag bar a line at a time, but does so
using the sizes of your tag bar font (-f). you'll see this behavior
occurs because the different heights on the fonts mean you can't
satisfy both of them with whole-row-only moves.
erik wrote:
// i can't think of any advantages of 2e over 4e. perhaps others disagree.
not advantages, no, but there are bits and pieces that were
interesting ideas, even if they didn't pan out, that are overlooked.
the whole streams idea is really educational. nonet was neat. having
datakit
fgb has ported 4th; it's in his contrib dir, both as a tar file and a
contrib package. i thought i remembered seeing another, but it's not
on the contrib index page.
Trying to help diagnose a race condition in emu, I did this:
for (i in `{seq 1 100}) {echo BEGIN RUN $i ; emu sh -c
/usr/a/bin/sh/emuerr; echo END RUN $i ; echo}
where emuerr is a sh.dis script that raises an exception. on OS X,
using p9p's rc, i get a bunch of stanzas that look like:
BEGIN RUN
in the US, CDMA operators (notably Verizon) typically do restrict
unblessed devices (where, in many cases, those include supported
devices simply not sold by them). this is improving, but remains
common.
the situation for GSM operators is somewhat better. the GSMA
regulations (the industry
and thank god for that.
Devon got this working for him about a month and a half ago; see this message:
http://9fans.net/archive/2008/12/501
I've still not made it work for me (on OS X), but i think the issues
are actually in changes outside the ethernet stuff. I haven't had much
time to dig in.
i've updated the mirrors page; right now, it's only got 9grid.es right
now. i've also removed the explicit mention of specific mirrors from
the sources repository page, where i think you were seeing what you
were seeing. i've changed it to reference the mirrors page.
i only saw 9grid.de on the
Plan 9 can be downloaded free of charge from:
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9
If you're after nice printed manuals and a pressed CD, see:
http://www.vitanuova.com/cgi-bin/order.pl?PRODUCTSET=PLAN9
The listed price is £38, €45.42, or $75.00.
You used to be able to get just the CD or just the
Dir.mode has several bits that don't seem to be defined. Should the
protocol be read that optimally conforming clients and servers should
pass through the bits, or set them to 0? Aside from the obvious risk
of future collisions, is there anything that makes using these bits
unsafe?
No, this isn't
erik wrote:
i'm not sure i understand. either you have the key (score)
and you can decrypt the whole cyphertext (read the file tree
below), or you don't. assuming of course that scores are too
hard to guess. so the solution is: don't give out the root score.
my read on the utility of rog's
erik wrote:
it's interesting to compare this with the sleezy not-paths
that e.g. gnome programs can take, like uris. great as long
as long as you don't care to use anything but gnome tools.
i had that debate with a kde-loving linux admin. i had been explaining
why plan 9 was interesting or
you, um... never mind. what can i say?
http://www.gnu.org/manual/gawk/html_node/Special-Network.html#Special-Network
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:49 AM, c...@gli.cas.cz wrote:
How about turning acme to universal UI, in the style of old Oberon?
Acme very deeply believes that everything's just text. It would be
substantial effort to get it to be any more universal than that. I'm
aware of at least two independent
if you want to work on it some, this message talks about getting
inferno working on OpenBSD using the rthreads library (the pending
replacement for the userland threads russ talked about):
http://www.xs4all.nl/~mechiel/inferno/openbsd43-old.html
you could likely follow a similar path for p9p if
:; pwd
/n/sources/contrib/anothy
:; cat README
cat: error reading README: venti i/o error or wrong score, block
31ac0ab07a37238f6257ecdddcd13c913122718c
About a month ago, the motherboard in my CPU server went bad (visibly
bulging capacitors!). I finally got the replacement part on RMA from
the manufacturer and tried getting things going again yesterday. No
joy, and the problems are strange. The symptoms differ depending on
whether I have drives
Has anyone gotten fossil (with or without venti) working on p9p, or
tried and failed?
I've been playing around with a variety of 9vx configurations and want
to try booting it off a p9p-hosted fossil (on the same physical box).
That's the next project.
to be clear, this behavior is while running the old plan 9 vmware
tool, right? without that, i'd expect the snarf buffer to work
properly within the guest environment, but you won't have any way to
get things out.
Mostly off-topic, but the newly released linux 2.6.28 talks about the
Nokia phonet protocol. Google helpfully returns all sorts of
things with phone in it as a match to phonet, making it a bit hard
to find more detailed protocol documentation. Anyone have a pointer to
anything more definitive than
depends what you mean by extra. if that means outside 9vx, then
yes; if it means besides what 9vx uses by default, no.
yesterday(1) relies on having dump-style snapshots. 9vx, as shipped,
gets its root file system from #Z, which doesn't have snapshots.
erik offered some suggestions for hosting
client by definition knows more than the server.
i assume you mean knows less? the server knows where EOF is and
which files to enforce append-only on. your #1 seems to only exist
because the client doesn't have that info.
i think that would be great, too but i can't think of any
arm platforms that are competitive. any suggestions?
it depends in large part what competitive means, of course. most of
the ARM stuff i'm aware of is handheld or embedded, where intel
architectures have a really hard time being
The motherboard in my main server went belly-up yesterday. No POST, no
nothing. Well, the fans spin. Joy.
That particular motherboard isn't carried anywhere any more, despite
being a whopping one year old. I'm looking for a replacement, but
having a hard time finding one with both a supported
does sb600 or greater really mean just by number? sb700 and sb750
seem common, but i'd assumed (probably foolishly) that 6xx was
different (enough) from 7xx.
I have a 10.5 MacBook with an external display attached. When I start
9vx, things look normal. I can resize the window on the main display.
If I move it to the second display and resize, the window goes from
good to bad:
http://strand1.com/who/anthony/bug/good.png
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