[9fans] some group photos

2010-10-13 Thread John Floren
They came out kind of fuzzy, I think it's because of the bright light from outside behind us. http://jfloren.net/IWP9group1.jpg http://jfloren.net/IWP9group2.jpg

Re: [9fans] amd64 port

2010-10-13 Thread John Floren
I've consumed the Kool-Aid and now believe that ARM is the proper future for Plan 9. With Gumstix, you can get USB, DVI, audio, storage, ethernet, wifi, 3G, all in one tiny little box, for under $200, and with increasingly improving Plan 9 support (certainly better than amd64, which I used--it was

Re: [9fans] live streaming?

2010-10-11 Thread John Floren
http://www.livestream.com/iwp9 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan vdhar...@gmail.com wrote: hi, is there a link for live streaming of the conference? i tried to locate one but couldn't. thanks dharani

Re: [9fans] live streaming?

2010-10-11 Thread John Floren
I tried it for a few seconds and it worked, don't tell Eric. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: livestream.com/iwp9 I think eric won't let me try it. ron

Re: [9fans] anonymous pro -- a programming font

2010-09-09 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:56 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: seems to fit nicely with acme and rio. looks better antialiased than not. let me know if you want it in size 14, of use ttf2subf yourselves if you like it: http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html

Re: [9fans] how to print a program

2010-09-07 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I want to 'print' the 'page' program, i.e. put /sys/src/cmd/page/* on paper. I want different files start on new pages, with the header of every page being the file name and the page. For this the command

Re: [9fans] Laserjet Jetdirect problem

2010-09-02 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: prec7   -       p9      tcp!prec7!9100  81920   post+600dpi     generic generic generic generic tcppost Your spooler is generic but I think you want lpdsend. Look at the entry for vogon in the standard /sys/lib/lp/devices.

Re: [9fans] Laserjet Jetdirect problem

2010-09-02 Thread John Floren
, now I can print. John On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:09 PM, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: prec7   -       p9      tcp!prec7!9100  81920   post+600dpi     generic generic generic generic tcppost Your spooler is generic

Re: [9fans] how to lock cpu console

2010-09-01 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:22 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Wed Sep  1 12:58:54 EDT 2010, benave...@gmail.com wrote: you right, I thought conslock was rob's lock program http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/patch/sorry/robs-bits/ i hate doing this, but that depends on rio,

[9fans] Laserjet Jetdirect problem

2010-09-01 Thread John Floren
I decided to try and configure my system to print to the lab's network printer, an HP Laserjet 4014 with JetDirect enabled. I can happily print to it from Linux using CUPS. For reference, my Plan 9 server is called p9 and the printer is called prec7. Based on the example I saw in the config

Re: [9fans] how to lock cpu console

2010-09-01 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:14 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: rio is such a minor thing to run on today's massive machines, I'm not sure I really see the problem in starting it on your cpu server anyway. I frequently set them up to launch into rio because: 1. It's easier to fix

Re: [9fans] how to lock cpu console

2010-09-01 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:51 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: Those are reasonable points, definitely. Since I'm usually the only one to use my servers (except at Sandia, where I share with Ron), abusing my admin privs isn't a big deal. hey, isn't that the windows security

Re: [9fans] how to lock cpu console

2010-08-31 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:20 AM, bau...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all,        how to lock (protect by password) the cpu console? In default install afterboot the console is logged by user bootes. Is there a way to avoid this? tia, bye -- Maurizio Boriani irc: #defo...@freenode.net PGP

Re: [9fans] how to lock cpu console

2010-08-31 Thread John Floren
Don't do this under drawterm, at least not on Windows. It'll gobble your mouse right up, or at least it did mine. Of course, there's no reason to run this in drawterm, since your host OS is certain to have its own screen locker... John On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Federico G. Benavento

Re: [9fans] megamouse?

2010-06-29 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:10 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote: http://warmouse.com/pr062810.html Looks complicated. Hey, there's a way to end the mouse/keyboard switching argument once and for all! With 18 buttons, you can just make the mouse a chording keyboard as well and never

Re: [9fans] Inducing artificial latency

2010-06-22 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:07 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: Last time I needed something similar, I just run a modified iostats. how does iostats add latency? hence the modified. Hi Gorka Do you

Re: [9fans] Inducing artificial latency

2010-06-22 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:53 PM, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:07 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: Last time I needed something similar, I just run a modified iostats

Re: [9fans] Inducing artificial latency

2010-06-16 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/15 John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com: I'm going to be doing some work with 9P and high-latency links this summer and fall. I need to be able to test things over a high-latency network, but since I may

[9fans] Inducing artificial latency

2010-06-15 Thread John Floren
I'm going to be doing some work with 9P and high-latency links this summer and fall. I need to be able to test things over a high-latency network, but since I may be modifying the kernel, running stuff on e.g. mordor is not the best option. I have enough systems here to do the tests, I just need

Re: [9fans] Inducing artificial latency

2010-06-15 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/6/15 John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com: I'm going to be doing some work with 9P and high-latency links this summer and fall. I need to be able to test things over a high-latency network, but since I may

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories

2010-05-21 Thread John Floren
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:08 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:37 PM, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi So I'm trying to clone a private repository I just created on bitbucket. This is what I see: jerq% hg clone https://username@bitbucket.org

Re: [9fans] Wipe clean, start over

2010-05-16 Thread John Floren
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:45 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: it's always been sufficient for me to cat /dev/zero /dev/sdC0 or whatever. Blowing away the first couple hundred blocks seems to work fine. It does go out of its way to try to reuse what partitions it thinks it finds.

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread John Floren
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:35 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: *Weekday overnight accommodations are not available from September to June. this will mean peak season airfares and very tight deadline. The food

Re: [9fans] A simple experiment

2010-04-27 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:54 PM, j...@9srv.net wrote: Nice work, but couldn't you just bind /n/sources/plan9/sys/src to the hg repo and push from there? That would almost certainly be slower than grabbing the ISO via HTTP and getting the file tree locally. John

Re: [9fans] A simple experiment

2010-04-27 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:59 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Tue Apr 27 13:58:39 EDT 2010, slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:54 PM,  j...@9srv.net wrote: Nice work, but couldn't you just bind /n/sources/plan9/sys/src to the hg repo and push from there?

Re: [9fans] three sets of windows

2010-04-27 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: I'm curious about the 3-button mouse... (haven't seen one for a long while, but seems like it might be worth getting one.) you might have seen one and not even known it.  Many mice with a scroll wheel support pressing the

Re: [9fans] TeX: need feedback

2010-04-26 Thread John Floren
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:29 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: Hello, For the moment, I had only one feedback from James Chapman (OK once the trailing space in $(uname) result was handled. I would like to have more, specially on two points: 1) Non i386 arch. 2) LaTeX OK. The time to

Re: [9fans] Mars Needs Women

2010-04-18 Thread John Floren
really want to fork it just do it. You don't need permission or anybody's blessing, but if you're looking for somebody to say Sounds great, where do you want me to start? you'll probably be waiting a long time, because nobody's going to sign up for a project backed up by nothing but talk. John Floren

Re: [9fans] native install

2010-03-24 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:11 PM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: from 1 to 3. . .vmware or qemu (all of them).. . .i'm thinking in buying a modern PC in which i can run it natively...suggestions? While I have not bought one yet (money's a little tight at the moment), take a look at

Re: [9fans] p9p's rio: moving windows across virtual screens

2010-03-18 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:29 AM, lbolla lbo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm using rio from p9p with multiple virtual screens ($ rio -virtuals 9). Is there a way to move a window from one screen to another? In the man, xshove is suggested to move windows around, but it does not seem to

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote: However, there is one smart feature that for me would be useful enough that carrying a big chunky thing that lives for a quarter of a day

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Axel Belinfante axel.belinfa...@cs.utwente.nl wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 20:13 , John Floren wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:54 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ Okay, Maht.  You just cost me $125 :)  I just couldn't resist. Of course, it remains to be seen whether this will be another project that

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might have just what we needed for the 9phone. 9phone? Just an idea to run Plan 9 on phone hardware, son of bitsy. Looks like there's a lot of very cheap

Re: [9fans] (no subject)

2010-03-07 Thread John Floren
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:09 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: we've got fgb's wonderful program and I think we're crazy if we don't build on that. A deserved compliment, certainly.  Now to figure how to provide the grouping I believe is required in addition to the means for replication.  And,

Re: [9fans] Check out my photos on Facebook

2010-03-03 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:18 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it.  First, you need to join Facebook!  Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Is it just

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread John Floren
I think a lot of this info is on the Wiki already--USB disks, faces, adding users, changing the background (come on, read the man page). We've also had various newbies come in and promise to create a great, simple site for users, but it never goes anywhere. I'd suggest looking more closely at the

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:43 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Tue Feb 23 11:38:44 EST 2010, slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: We've also had various newbies come in and promise to create a great, simple site for users, but it never goes anywhere. I'd suggest looking more closely

Re: [9fans] contrib/gui

2010-02-02 Thread John Floren
At Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:23:56 -0800, ron minnich wrote: It's really neat -- give it a try. One thing that is not apparent is that the packages are set up as iso's, and they are pulled down as such, i.e. it's way faster to pull them down than running replica against far-away sources. ron

Re: [9fans] Shall we fix the use of Up/Dn arrows?

2010-01-24 Thread John Floren
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Yi DAI plm@gmail.com wrote: 1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable. This is the behavior of Acme-SAC, as I recall, so one would think such a change should be easy

Re: [9fans] etherigbe.c using _xinc?

2009-12-08 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: because it's not a Ref.  unfortunately, if it were a Ref, it would be much faster.  _xinc is deadly slow even if there is no contention on x86. do you have numbers to back up this claim? I don't have the code or the numbers in

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: The scanner ist connect via 1G ethernet. On the Touchscreen  is an Option Scan to network. The scanner scans direct to a cifs share (aquarella on plan9). No need for spezial software except a Cifs Server.

[9fans] Poweredge 1400

2009-11-15 Thread John Floren
Have any of you run Plan 9 on a Dell Poweredge 1400? I'm looking for a new cpu/auth/file server for home, and I'm being offered a Poweredge 1400 for the cost of shipping and handling. John -- Object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing -- Rob Pike

[9fans] anyone in?

2009-10-20 Thread John Floren
Anyone in yet? -- Object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing -- Rob Pike

Re: [9fans] OMAP35 OSWALD

2009-09-26 Thread John Floren
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: http://osel.oregonstate.edu/files/osel_newsletter_200905.pdf Neat stuff. It looks like something I'd buy, but it's all student designed, even the lexan case. ron They have what looks to be a decent production

Re: [9fans] lisp again.

2009-09-07 Thread John Floren
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM, LiteStar numnumslites...@gmail.com wrote: Well, lisp != common lisp aside, I wouldn't mind a native CL system. I haven't looked at the SBCL backend in quite sometime, but, assuming it's not terribly insane, that would be a decent route. Most CL work that isn't

[9fans] broken contrib source

2009-08-19 Thread John Floren
Upon trying to build /sys/src/cmd for the arm today (beagleboards came in), I found that mk was dying due to bad source installed by contrib(1) packages. mk -k install was able to get me through most of it, but the three worst offenders didn't even have mkfiles in their top levels; since I didn't

Re: [9fans] The first annual Hello, World challenge

2009-08-18 Thread John Floren
In rc: % window 'echo hello world; sleep 5' It's probably against the spirit, but hey, it fits on a Hollerith card! Technically. In C, the quickest thing I came up with using draw is: #include u.h #include libc.h #include draw.h void main(void) { initdraw(0, 0, hello);

[9fans] contrib tracker

2009-08-18 Thread John Floren
I've written a little script to go through contrib and generate a markdown page showing what the last update time for the files it finds, all the way back to the start of the year. At some point I may extend it to go into previous years as well, but except for during early January of each year the

Re: [9fans] nemo book

2009-08-17 Thread John Floren
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Benjamin Huntsmanbhunts...@mail2.cu-portland.edu wrote: Does anyone here know if it's possible to obtain printed copies of nemo's book if you live in the United States? Dykinson's website doesn't seem to offer overseas shipping... Thanks in advance! -Ben

Re: [9fans] nemo book

2009-08-17 Thread John Floren
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Benjamin Huntsmanbhunts...@mail2.cu-portland.edu wrote: I'am intrigued, you have a weblink to where I could buy a printed copy (in europe)? I'm not sure you can order it online, but here is the link:

Re: [9fans] Lua on Plan9

2009-08-14 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnikr...@sun.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:27 +0100, Robert Raschke wrote: Last time I tried, the standard Lua compiled out of the box under the APE. Just fetched the tarball for lua-5.1.4, changed the CC=gcc to CC=cc and tried make

Re: [9fans] Lua on Plan9

2009-08-14 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Josh Woodj...@utopian.net wrote: Just fetched the tarball for lua-5.1.4, changed the CC=gcc to CC=cc and tried make posix. After lots of complaining about the -O2 option, I see: /usr/john/lua-5.1.4/src/liolib.c:178[stdin:2686] incompatible types: IND STRUCT

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-13 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:11 AM, michael blockmichaelmuf...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 23:49, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote: With a little help from FreeDOS, I am now successfully running 2e i can't get past the first disk. it seems there is no suitable fat partition. no

Re: [9fans] file server?

2009-08-13 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:01 PM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net wrote: So, I guess that means venti+fossil+cpu on one headless machine in some forgotten corner of the datacentre. regardless of one's terminal accomidations, i still think it makes a lot of sense to have a stand-alone

Re: [9fans] rio with virtuals

2009-08-12 Thread John Floren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:54 PM, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote: I spent a couple hours this afternoon reading rio source and hacking it to do virtual desktops.  /n/sources/contrib/john/rio-virtual.tgz contains the files from /sys/src/cmd/rio with my changes made.  At this time, there is no

[9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories

2009-08-11 Thread John Floren
Hi So I'm trying to clone a private repository I just created on bitbucket. This is what I see: jerq% hg clone https://username@bitbucket.org/username/repo/ destination directory: repo http authorization required realm: Bitbucket.org HTTP user: username abort: could not import module msvcrt! If

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories

2009-08-11 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi So I'm trying to clone a private repository I just created on bitbucket. This is what I see: jerq% hg clone https://username@bitbucket.org/username/repo/ destination directory: repo http authorization required

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories

2009-08-11 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Russ Coxr...@swtch.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi So I'm trying to clone a private repository I just created on bitbucket. This is what I see: jerq% hg clone

Re: [9fans] yet another installation guide

2009-08-11 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Coreyco...@bitworthy.net wrote: On Monday 10 August 2009 22:37:38 John Floren wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:34 PM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net wrote: step 17. it's a good idea to always leave a 9fat menu around on your auth server. if you screw

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-07 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Anthony Soraceano...@gmail.com wrote: that was for 2nd edition. it's now horribly outdated. it is also only available under an older, for-pay license that i'm not sure it's actually possible to buy any more. you don't actually want that set unless you're

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-07 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Steve Simonst...@quintile.net wrote: As Anthony says it is very very old, but I might be fun if you had the time on your hands. The 2nd edition books/cdrom are nolonger available but you might find a set seccond hand (abebooks.com etc). The floppys are here:

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-06 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Coreyco...@bitworthy.net wrote: On Wednesday 05 August 2009 19:42:54 Anthony Sorace wrote: * I hope I don't get beat up on this one (well, I hope I don't get too beat up on _any_ of these questions...), but it seems strange that something as important as a

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-06 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Coreyco...@bitworthy.net wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 01:19:35 Robert Raschke wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Corey co...@bitworthy.net wrote: snip That wasn't a rhetorical question.  Why bother locking your door? Any intruder worth his weight

[9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-06 Thread John Floren
Looking at the very old mailing list archives, I noticed something about a 3-disk (or was it 4-disk?) floppy-based distribution of the earliest PC dist. Is that still available in some form? I just came into possession of a stack of floppies and a pair of 486s and I'm ready to dare to be stupid.

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-06 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Daniel Lyonsfus...@storytotell.org wrote: On Aug 6, 2009, at 6:59 PM, hiro wrote: don't forget to take away the connectors from the power and reset buttons, otherwise good security concepts;) Just out of curiosity, is it possible to simply unbind the console

Re: [9fans] Unix Weenie Newsreader

2009-08-05 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:19 AM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote: Ever wish you had more GUI programs on Plan 9 to show off to your friends? Do you think Mothra represents the very pinnacle of UI design? Then have I got a program for you... I've spent the last day or so whipping up a

Re: [9fans] An excerpt from Syllable's description

2009-08-03 Thread John Floren
Why do we have to care about every self-righteous pronouncement from every minor project out there? Why should we have to put everything into a Plan 9 context? If you want to relate Plan 9 to Syllable, look at their forums--it seems to have the same sort of problems as Plan 9. Lacking in drivers

Re: [9fans] Woes of New Language Support

2009-07-28 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Ethan Grammatikidiseeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:39:46 +0100 Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: the unicode proposal says that matches depend on (re, locale, input). not just (re, input).  i would think that is not acceptable.

[9fans] Unix Weenie Newsreader

2009-07-28 Thread John Floren
Ever wish you had more GUI programs on Plan 9 to show off to your friends? Do you think Mothra represents the very pinnacle of UI design? Then have I got a program for you... I've spent the last day or so whipping up a quick libpanel application to read USENET via nntpfs. You can read newsgroups

Re: [9fans] plan9port behind corporate firewall with no DNS or port access

2009-07-25 Thread John Floren
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Salman Aljammazs...@finiteless.net wrote: Uriel wrote: If your work firewall proxies port 80, then things get trickier, you could mount sources on the home inferno instance, and then export it using mjl's httpd as a read-only http 'tree'. assuming you've got

Re: [9fans] a few more misc. questions if you don't mind

2009-07-25 Thread John Floren
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Coreyco...@bitworthy.net wrote: I understand that, but I didn't pose my question correctly. The gist behind the question might have made more sense if I had phrased it differently: Given the following ridiculously contrived hypothetical situation: You only

Re: [9fans] a few more misc. questions if you don't mind

2009-07-25 Thread John Floren
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Coreyco...@bitworthy.net wrote: One computer, Plan 9 only, on bare hardware - which do you prefer: terminal kernel or cpu kernel w/ auth and fs enabled? Or is there technically no reason to have a preference under the circumstances? Your answer: terminal and

Re: [9fans] Does as little software as possible include a modern

2009-07-23 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Fernan Bolandofernanbola...@mailc.net wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Richard Miller9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: although it uses http, twitter has got an api that you can use outside a browser. it's much the same with several others, including aws. there

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

2009-07-20 Thread John Floren
That should have been a private reply, but I suck at using gmail. John On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:39 PM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Can I get a copy of your code? Thanks John On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:46 PM, driv...@0xabadba.be wrote:        Phew finally got it.  There was

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

2009-07-20 Thread John Floren
Hi Can I get a copy of your code? Thanks John On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:46 PM, driv...@0xabadba.be wrote:        Phew finally got it.  There was some hackery involved in the hg-git python code since mmap wasn't supported -- i basically just implemented them with reads; however I was

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

2009-07-20 Thread John Floren
I don't think the porter's contrib has been created yet; I will happily host it on mine in the meantime, or other arrangements could be made. John On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Roman V Shaposhnikr...@sun.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 14:39 -0700, John Floren wrote: Hi Can I get a copy

Re: [9fans] first timer - editing plan9.ini

2009-07-19 Thread John Floren
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Coreyco...@bitworthy.net wrote: Ok, so I have my fossil+venti and hopefully soon-to-be cpu and auth-server booted up for the first time, and I'm in rio as user glenda. I'm continuing to follow the docs, which is prompting me to edit plan9.ini for various

Re: [9fans] first timer - editing plan9.ini

2009-07-19 Thread John Floren
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Coreyco...@bitworthy.net wrote: On Sunday 19 July 2009 16:02:20 John Floren wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Coreyco...@bitworthy.net wrote: snip Can someone give me just the bare minimal sam command/info that I need to: edit a couple lines

Re: [9fans] About Plan9 on small systems

2009-07-18 Thread John Floren
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Adriano Verardoa.vera...@tecmav.com wrote: Hi, all Some time go I read about Plan9 on microcontrollers. Is this an interesting argument for the 9fans community ? adriano The closest you'll come with Plan 9 is the ARM port. As for microcontrollers like

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

2009-07-17 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Maybe you can tell us what *you* have done to help Plan 9? Or is your greatest contribution to act all obnoxious and condescending towards people that despite

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

2009-07-16 Thread John Floren
Congratulations! I'm interested in giving it a shot; is it just a tarball to compile, or is it a package for fgb's contrib(1)? I'll throw it on sources for you if you don't have an alternate hosting solution while you wait for your contrib. John On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:35 PM,

Re: [9fans] Why does Acme only show text?

2009-07-15 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Ethan Grammatikidiseeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:32:09 +0200 c...@gli.cas.cz wrote:  I also take issue with the statement Acme is a text editor, that never sounds right, no more than describing Emacs as  a text editor. It's natural

Re: [9fans] Why does Acme only show text?

2009-07-15 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: Eric and myself, and I think maybe Ron, are using acme and acme-sac to interact with a BlueGene/P system. Not as glamorous, but an alternative

Re: [9fans] Why does Acme only show text?

2009-07-15 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Chad Brownyand...@mit.edu wrote: Emacs is great for writing Lisp. Now, if only I could find the correct .emacs invocation to make the tab key insert a tab character in C mode, rather than a bunch of spaces the way His Holy Lunacy RMS desires. If I wanted spaces

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

2009-07-15 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Russ Coxr...@swtch.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:38 PM, driv...@0xabadba.be wrote: Thats good to hear HG is working well, I am really hoping for git as it is hosting my current repo of works.  If git does not exist and there is no plan to do it in the

Re: [9fans] ugliness in vesa

2009-07-14 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:06 AM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net wrote: I didn't seem to see any improvement after applying the mtrr patch... did you make any changes to the vganvidia file before compiling? I haven't looked at the 'pat' thing, I'll have to check that out. for the pat

Re: [9fans] ugliness in vesa

2009-07-14 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:10 AM, erik quanstromquans...@coraid.com wrote: I believe I properly applied the pat patch, but I'm not really seeing any improvement. At least, it still takes fully two seconds to bring one large window in front of another. that's because the screen is not

Re: [9fans] ugliness in vesa

2009-07-13 Thread John Floren
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:42 PM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Mon Jul 13 19:58:54 EDT 2009, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote: So, I finally got tired of slow desktop switching with the nvidia driver and thought I'd give vesa another shot. i have had trouble with vesa cursor in

Re: [9fans] 9grid.net down?

2009-07-11 Thread John Floren
It's in mason's contrib directory. grep -i ac97 /n/sources/lsr On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:16 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: It seems to drop HTTP links as soon as they are established.  Is there another location for aki's AC'97 support? ++L -- I've tried programming Ruby on Rails,

Re: [9fans] Google finally announces their lightweight OS

2009-07-08 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Devon H. O'Delldevon.od...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/8 Uriel urie...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Devon H. O'Delldevon.od...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think so. We already have IPv6

Re: [9fans] Fonts

2009-07-08 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM, J. R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 16:05, Josh Wood j...@utopian.net wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: Does anybody know anything about how fonts are created and packaged (info on subfonts would be great, info

Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?

2009-07-06 Thread John Floren
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Ethan Grammatikidiseeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:57:19 +0200 cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: yeah... connecting terminals to warp energy plasma conduits seems to be a bad idea. Yeah, it's also a deeply wierd thing to do unless the terminals

Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?

2009-07-02 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Rob Pikerobp...@gmail.com wrote: I believe ^H ^W ^U date back at least to TENEX. -rob I just checked, ^H and ^W were the same in ITS's :EMACS John -- I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It

Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?

2009-07-01 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:58 PM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: Arguing about mouse vs keyboard misses the point. I'm very happy with acme's use of the mouse, but acme's power comes from the rest of its design. Russ

Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?

2009-07-01 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Ethan Grammatikidiseeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:00:01 -0500 blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: perhaps i should have taken piano, but i find the That's an interesting observation.  As it turns out I do play, and it's certainly possible that it

Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?

2009-07-01 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM, erik quanstromquans...@coraid.com wrote: Umm, Plan 9 relevance: I don't have to fingertwist in Plan 9! Actually I can't remember using Esc anywhere, esc selects typing since last non-typing repositing of the tick or deletes selected text in acme.  esc toggles

Re: [9fans] off-topic: small is beautiful article

2009-06-25 Thread John Floren
TinyScheme has been in contrib for a long time, but I don't know its limitations or how it would stack up against 'ChibiScheme' John On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:53 AM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote: COOL!  So there's a Scheme in the works for Inferno and Plan 9? Dave On Thu, Jun 25,

Re: [9fans] fossil/venti falling down?

2009-06-24 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:10 AM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:45 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: It seems to only happen once per boot, but not necessarily when fossil starts responding--I've seen it a couple hours after booting, which

Re: [9fans] fossil/venti falling down?

2009-06-24 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:01 AM, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: Our Coraid device recently lost two disks from the RAID5 configuration; while we were able to rebuild from instructions given by support, I suspect some small amount of data was corrupted. Since rebuilding the device

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