Is there an easy way to transpose the text so that rows become
columns, and vice versa? Delimiter is space. Perhaps in AWK?
If Richard's trick won't work, grab contrib/lyndon/transpose.c.
It's dog slow (actually, avl(2) is), but its effectively
unbounded for the input dataset size.
--lyndon
arg(2) refers to arginit and argopt in NAME, but neither exists anyplace I
can get to (including all version of libc.h in sourcesdump). Are these a
holdover from pre-4ed? I lost my 2ed CDs so I can't look back before
what's in sourcesdump.
--lyndon
I have a CPU server running as 'glenda' that has a DVD drive. I want to
make that DVD drive available to various terminals on the network. But I
don't want to put the terminal users into glenda's group. The obvious
solution seemed to be to set up a 'commondevs' group, add glenda and the
allowed
or you could write a custom file server
with its own group list, like consolefs has.
This seems to make the most sense. And it makes it simple to implement
(configurable) exclusive open semantics for devices that need it.
--lyndon
This solution didn't work because groups are specific to the
file server implementing them. Your CPU server doesn't know
about the groups on your file servers and doesn't itself
implement any groups.
I'm suffering more 2ed-4ed migration brain damage. After reading through
some of the assorted
i was told dtrace was non-intrusive at the time, but w2 would show the
command history from w1.
More likely this is ksh sharing a history file.
contrast /386/bin/sleep, a non-trivial
executable, at 4422 bytes on my system — 100x smaller.
#include u.h
#includelibc.h
int main(void){exits(nil);}
is 3317 bytes on my atom box.
From last week's ACM Technews ...
Why Desktop Multiprocessing Has Speed Limits
Computerworld (10/05/09) Vol. 43, No. 30, P. 24; Wood, Lamont
Despite the mainstreaming of multicore processors for desktops, not
every desktop application can be rewritten for multicore frameworks,
which means some
I'm not familiar with the berkeley work.
Me either. Any chance of some references to this?
Is anyone working on Unichrome vga support?
Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB ~bridge chips are you trying to use
it with?
ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded Unichrome
onboard about 2+ years ago..
It's a 1GHz C7 EPIA mini-ITX board, CN400 chipset (I *think* -- I
can't get at it right this second
Varian Data, General Automation, SDS/XDS, DEC, Data General, Honeywell, CDC,
GE
I don't think DEC deserves this branding. In my experience they were
one of the most open hardware companies around. Back when they were still
DEC, of course.
--lyndon
is t possible that the path mtu is 1500 bytes? if
so, trampoline isn't going to forward icmp messages.
Trampoline just copies the sequence of data bytes. It doesn't know
anything about IP or ICMP datagrams.
such as the beagleboard, which
are good enough to be a desktop
Ethernet? My kingdom for Ethernet on one of those!
Is USB Ethernet really viable? It would be nice to hear from anyone
actually doing it (with performance numbers).
--lyndon
The trouble with this is that the same string can appear more than
once (before, after the field, ...), so the simple substitution isn't
enough.
It's sounding like awk is the wrong tool. It should be trivial to code
up a short piece of C to do the job.
Has anyone taken a crack at running a current Plan 9 under
Microsoft's standalone Hyper-V distribution? It's been a year
and a month since this last came up on the list, and a lot has
happened since then ...
--lyndon
You don't need to do anything special for BIND to slave from your
Plan9 master. I have a BIND slaving from a Plan 9 master without any
issues.
On the Plan 9 master, start ndb/dns with the -n flag, and add dnsslave
entries to /lib/ndb/local for each of your slave hosts. Here are the
relevant
is this english++? i just can't parse it.
If we all ignore him he might go away ...
relax
If I want platitudes I have the whole rest of the internet to gorge
on. Here we try to do actual content.
Please try it out and see if it looks like sources from your
perspective. You may want to change your authdom declaration for
outside.plan9.bell-labs.com in /lib/ndb to
Geoff, I did a walk of /n/sources/contrib and /n/haggis/contrib,
and the latter is missing quite a few files:
48257
Please mail reports, good or bad, to me, not 9fans;
there's no need to add to the volume of traffic on 9fans for this.
How about we convince the mailing list software to stop
inserting Reply-To headers.
There is a searchable mailing list archive at
http://9fans/net/archive that's quite useful.
--lyndon
The only
relevant documentation I've found on the subject
is lp(1) and lp(8), and /sys/src/cmd/lp/.
See also /sys/doc/lp.ps
--lyndon
no alternate locations. sorry.
You sure you don't want me to mirror this stuff?
Mixing \f(CW with '.FP lucidasans' results in text that is wildly out
of proportion. To my eye, the CW font needs to be scaled down by
about 1.5 points to visually match the surrounding text (at the -ms
default point size). I'm curious if this has annoyed anyone else
enough that they've come up
Anybody have a copy of dformat online? For the 4th time I've lost
mine, and I don't relish typing it in yet again from the Labs TR ...
--lyndon
Sweet -- thanks! (That wasn't there the last three times ...)
---BeginMessage---
Anybody have a copy of dformat online?
http://www.troff.org/source.html
-Steve
---End Message---
And then use .EX and .EE around code examples (concept
lifted from the man macros).
For offset code CW seems fine. My problem involves imbedding
CW inline. E.g.
.TS
tab(#);
l0w(.1i) l0w(.1i) lw(.1i) l .
\...#/##Message store root.
#/1##A message in the root folder.
#/2##\f2Ibid.\fP
This is what we do at Sandia. We have one machine which serves
cpu/auth/file, but the actual Venti disks are in a Coraid connected
via GigE. The fossil disk is in the server, but if it dies we can just
build a new one.
Which reminds me of an often overlooked but important point:
Save your
regardless of one's terminal accomidations, i still think it makes
a lot of sense to have a stand-alone fileserver. it really does stink
if your fs goes down for no reason at all. this is especially true if
you're doing a lot of experimenting or don't have a proper terminal.
Amen! Three
Okay, it's authsrv(2) that describes the nvram search sequence. And for
whatever reason I had it in my head that these days it was possible to
grab the nvram across the wire, which in hindsight makes no sense
whatsoever. And now that I think about it, my last (2ed) 'diskless' CPU
server had a
What does the BIOS setup screen say about the motherboard clock's idea of
the time? I suspect what's happening is the motherboard clock is set in
the future, you are formatting venti based on that time, and then later
firing up timesync which interprets the RTC as local time. If your RTC is
Does anyone have a copy online of a working plan9.ini for pxe booting a
diskless cpu server from a fossil? I've been going through the manpages
and wiki but things just aren't clear to me exactly what needs to be done
wrt configuring the nvram settings. Things have changed since 2ed ...
I am unsure I would remove timeouts even from bulk endpoints.
It is true that some devices (the usb/serial for example) need to
read for an undefined time waiting for data, but I don't think that is
an issue as long
as the timeouts are long enough,
Please show us the algorithm that *correctly*
Anybody running a terminal with a GMA950 chipset? I need to verify it
works before I plunk down money on some new terminal hardware. VESA
support is fine, just as long as rio us usable on it.
The Wiki shows i950 VESA support. I'm not sure of i960 == GMA950. The way
vendors are these days you
On that note, my personal experience has found it to be a lot easier
to find and correct scope issues in Python than it has to find missing
braces or semicolons in other languages, sometimes even with matching
enabled. This usually is the case for awful spaghetti-ish code.
I find Python's
But how do you make them? I played with some TTF font generators about
10 years ago that I'm sure I illegally obtained somehow, but I realize
that I have zero idea of how fonts are designed and packaged. Does
anybody know anything about how fonts are created and packaged (info
on subfonts would
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 14:13 -0700, John Floren wrote:
and Ctrl-H should do
a backspace,
(global-set-key \C-h 'delete-backward-char)
(global-set-key \M-? 'help-command)
Emacs may be an atomic hammer, but it's sure as hell a customizable
atomic hammer.
I rarely use emacs these days, but
But what shall I do when the awk script is more complicated, in the
simplest case
Put the awk code into a file and execute ' awk -f foo' in acme.
There are plenty of mirrors, I'm pretty sure the sources is down
AGAIN comments could be mitigated by people improving their 9fs
scripts
A 9fs.local (ala termrc.loca)l would solve a lot of customization
issues.
I think the vital piece of paper is the business reply / product
registration
card which has your unique license ID number on it,
Apparently I was thinking of the SCO Ancient UNIX license. The 2e
Plan9 license came with the books that were the product code we all
had to order. The CDs
'kyle000' provokes an interesting question: what is the status of the 2e
registered licensees list I fuzzily remember?
I used to have the hard copy license from the back of the bubble envelope,
but it now lives in a galaxy far far away.
--lyndon
I happen to have the license in front of me, what do you want to know?
I recall there was a registry of 2e license holders. For those of us
wanting to swap code restricted by the old Labs 2e license, it was the way
to determine if the proposed recipient was a valid license holder.
Again,
Actually, I've got flickr-9P on my 2do-list [ ... ]
Is there any hope of re-winding the clock back to some time pre-
September?
I know one thing: every major operating system I have ever heard of
leverages shared libraries. Can all those people be wrong? I don't think so.
Eight billion Windows users can't be wrong. (Can they?)
you have to love comcast. They just blocked my port 25 incoming. A
quick search around the net reveals they are jerking people around
regularly on this issue.
And people claim UUCP is obsolete.
The amount of fuse traffic for simple operations is
astounding. You stop wondering why? and just try and cope. I'm not
dumping on fuse - it does fill a gap - rather I just don't wish to
look at its implementation.
This sound so much like the argument about shared libraries ...
A standalone statically linked binary is going to be considerable larger
while
in flight over data links.
But that static binary only flies once, geting sucked into memory
with a (mostly) simple bcopy equiv at process launch time. Shared
memory regimes thrash the living daylights out of MMUs
A thought ...
Shared libraries do 2 possibly useful things:
1) save space
2) stop you having to re-link when a new library is released.
Now 2) doesn't really happen anyway, due to .so versioning hell,
so we're left with 1) ...
I can run Plan 9 quite nicely in 128 MB of RAM. In the same amount
This savingrestoring seems flawed to me due to possible race-conditions...
I'd expect each shell had its own copy of /dev/wdir... But I may be
easily wrong...
When a rc forks a subshell the child shares the namespace with the parent.
If you want the child rc to divorce its namespace from the
Given a fossil+venti holding a snap -a in, say, /n/dump/0101, is there a
way of obtaining the vac score for the root of /n/dump/0101 such that it
could be used to initialize a new fossil from the snap?
--lyndon
Vac prints the Venti score for a vac(1) archive containing
the tree rooted at dir, which must already be archived to
Venti (typically dir is a directory in the /archive tree).
so, from your example, you want (I think):
vac /archive/0101
vac creates backup
it's
Note to pedants: I am so embarrassed :-(
in other words, if most of the time makes you nervous,
it really is a good idea to have a seperate fileserver,
even if it is running a regular kernel.
As one who is at this moment trying to extricate himself from a corrupted
FS caused by an 'abrupt' restart, I can highly recommend you pay
a windows machine with isa slots will be available to me on tuesday.
i'll try this out and see what happens. of course a better solution
would be to just fork over the cash for a better card...
Where can you even buy an ISA Ethernet (or any) card these days? I don't
even see them on Ebay or
there's no reason it needs to be isa, i have pci slots too. it's just
the only card i have that qualifies as plan 9 supported hardware
ok ;-) i ass-u-med that you were stuck with a real antique out of no
choice.
This being the case, buy an Intel Pro/100[0] PCI card. Accept no
substitutes.
11. Bookmarks
Typically handled by 'guide' files. I.e. a file, open in an acme window,
full of B3-able search strings. E.g.:
foo.c:/^main
Also useful with B2-able command strings:
grep -n 'where_is_this_function_called_from\(' *.c
slay program | rc
--lyndon
Don't force it, use a
I have a CPU/Auth server set up. I'd like to be able to add users
remotely (via drawterm), rather than at the system's console. However,
normally, I can't attach to /srv/fscons, and as I found, can't start
another fscons and open the filesystem under it.
When you drawterm, authenticate as
Yes that works, but isn't that similar to logging in as root to a unix
box over the wire? If I were delegating add user abilities to another
user, that'd mean I'd have to give them the password for bootes...
Yes. Anyone who has access to /srv/fscons owns the file server.
The first alternative
On 2008-Jul-6, at 14:59 , Brantley Coile wrote:
I remember the day I first saw a file magic file. I welcomed it
because for the first time I didn't have access to the source code.
Those were the days when you had to have $45k to get the source.
Closer to $100K for most people. I had
On 2008-Jul-2, at 14:10 , Fazlul Shahriar wrote:
I wrote a file server for the SSH File Transfer Protocol (SFTP). You
can find it here:
Well done! It's nice to see some people still prefer writing code
instead of mail ;-)
I'll give it a beating as soon as I have a free moment.
--lyndon
Most people just want to use a
computer, not learn all about it (just as they want to drive
a car and not look under the hood).
And Windows is the Chevrolet|Ford|Toyota|\* for the common man.
We are not the common man. Buy a bus pass and push off.
On 2008-Jun-11, at 19:31 , erik quanstrom wrote:
right. since the date is attached when delivered to a mailbox,
why doesn't this date change when it's delivered to a secondary
mailbox? why is the assignment a magical property of the inbox?
Most likely it's just an artifact of the original
Today's ISO images are running a bit thin. All that's there is there
directory tree; there are no files inside any of those directories.
This makes for fast downloads, but the installation experience is
rather lame ;-)
--lyndon
On 2008-Apr-22, at 10:11 , erik quanstrom wrote:
is there an existant script for populating this?
/n/sources/contrib/lyndon/rfcmirror is one.
On 2008-Apr-22, at 10:11 , erik quanstrom wrote:
is there an existant script for populating this?
Actually, is uses /lib/ietf/rfc, and the corresponding idmirror script
uses /lib/ietf/id.
On 2008-Apr-18, at 08:35 , Steve Simon wrote:
I believe plan9 uns well under parallels.
Flawlessly would be a more accurate description.
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