Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread Uriel
this whole project seems to be high-risk/low-reward, with worthwhile goals that could be much more easily accomplished with much less risk via other routes which don't share any of the technical and legal risks and would have much more potential to be useful in the future. Peace uriel On Tu

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-30 Thread Uriel
I think it is reasonable to ask how worthy it is. Peace uriel

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-30 Thread Uriel
if the project stalls or GSoC ends before it is finished? And in this case it would be another abandoned dead end. So far I see many people posing very substantive objections, and others saying 'it would be nice' uriel

Re: [9fans] 9P writes for directories

2009-03-27 Thread Uriel
ominations. uriel On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: >>> >>> I have thought about that too, but became convinced that POST is more >>> like create (or more like write on a subdirectory -- he

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-27 Thread Uriel
e is the one better tested, in better shape and a better starting point, but I'm mostly guessing. uriel

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Uriel
A 9vx, p9p or inferno cocoa port is a project that seems fairly reasonable and I think everyone (even those that don't use Macs) can agree on (and then if somebody wants they can port it to the other draw users). uriel On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:50 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > let&#x

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Uriel
of an Octopus port. Porting drawterm is a dead end with very little potential of either learning anything interesting or being useful in the future. uriel On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Federico G. Benavento wrote: >> My personal belief is that this is a really bad, if not dangerous cr

Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort

2009-03-20 Thread Uriel
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > the kernel work is another matter; the essential 64-bit changes have been > made, But not released. Maybe the GSoC students can work telepathically on it, that is a skill that will come handy in their future Plan 9 contributions. uriel

Re: [9fans] Strange rc bug for the 9fans bug-squashing squad

2009-03-18 Thread Uriel
7; dogma. Which makes me wonder, would it be excessive to double the current limit? While 8k is quite ample, 16k would be even more so :) Thanks everyone for all the ideas and suggestions uriel On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:25 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Tue Mar 17 20:29:50 EDT 2009, urie...@gma

Re: [9fans] Strange rc bug for the 9fans bug-squashing squad

2009-03-17 Thread Uriel
were getting lost, I probably can figure some way to work around the issue and stitch things together after they get split. uriel

Re: [9fans] Strange rc bug for the 9fans bug-squashing squad

2009-03-17 Thread Uriel
> in your test, try this > >        echo $#x I tried that too, I'm getting the same result for an ifs of '' or (). % ifs=() {x=`{cat f}; echo $#x} 2 % ifs='' {x=`{cat f}; echo $#x} 2 I'm doing something else wrong? uriel

Re: [9fans] Strange rc bug for the 9fans bug-squashing squad

2009-03-17 Thread Uriel
e mystifying, and which are hard to work around. > i would think this small change would be worth > consideration. I will give it a try when I get a chance, but if it fixes the lost chars, I'll be happy. Thanks! uriel > ; diffy -c havefork.c > /n/dump/2009/0317/sys/sr

Re: [9fans] Strange rc bug for the 9fans bug-squashing squad

2009-03-17 Thread Uriel
Thanks martin for your analysis, this makes some sense to me, but as I pointed out, even setting ifs to () doesn't solve the issue, so it would be nice to find a solution to this. Right now having the output of `{} corrupted can be quite inconvenient... Thanks uriel On Tue, Mar 17, 2009

Re: [9fans] Strange rc bug for the 9fans bug-squashing squad

2009-03-17 Thread Uriel
Thanks Geoff for the prompt explanation, but I'm getting the same results with ifs=() Not sure why, but I'm not sure I understand the difference between setting ifs to '' and (). Thanks again uriel On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:40 AM, wrote: > Setting ifs=''

[9fans] Strange rc bug for the 9fans bug-squashing squad

2009-03-16 Thread Uriel
see any obvious errors, but I don't fully understand the code. Peace uriel

Re: [9fans] python csp

2009-03-11 Thread Uriel
;It allows recursive programming, which is confusing" or some such is the last I remember) *sigh* uriel On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 6:13 PM, wrote: > hello > > i think somone pointed to this on 9fans days ago: > > www.stackless.com > > slds. > > gabi > >

Re: [9fans] Google Summer of code 2009

2009-03-06 Thread Uriel
obody ever did anything, until somebody got feed up and applied, some things went very wrong, but other useful stuff came out of it. I have yet to see anything useful come from the attitude reigning in other parts of the 'community' though, maybe ten years from now the new 64 bit kernel will be

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2009

2009-03-05 Thread Uriel
As Sergey pointed out, there is a google groups for discussing this topics (there is also one only for mentors if you like, where I think both of you are members). http://groups.google.com/group/plan9-gsoc I have started to work on bringing http://gsoc.cat-v.org up to date... uriel On Thu, Mar

Re: [9fans] command repetition in sam/acme

2009-03-04 Thread Uriel
all, counting is a step in that direction. I personally rarely have use for it, and when I do, it is trivial to write a script to generate the desired regexp, and I'm eternally grateful for being free from Perl-induced psychosis. uriel On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Rudolf Sykora wro

Re: [9fans] threads vs forks

2009-03-04 Thread Uriel
What about xcpu? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:33 PM, hugo rivera wrote: > you are right. I was totally confused at the beggining. > Thanks a lot. > > 2009/3/4, Vincent Schut : >> hugo rivera wrote: >> >> > The cluster has torque installed as the resource manager. I think it >> > runs of top of pbs

Re: [9fans] 8c, 8l, and empty files

2009-03-03 Thread Uriel
"Unix never says 'please'" Nor is it supposed to keep users from doing stupid things... thank God, or I could not use it. uriel On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:45 AM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: >> Or perhaps, since the user went to trouble of making sure the file >> di

Re: [9fans] threads vs forks

2009-03-03 Thread Uriel
iders 'confusing' and wont allow in mainline python (I think another reason is that porting it to jython and .not would be hard, but I'm not familiar with the details). uriel On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:08 AM, J.R. Mauro wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote

Re: [9fans] command repetition in sam/acme

2009-03-03 Thread Uriel
it with a new value: awk -v w=1000 -v nw='NewValue' -v ORS=' ' -v 'RS= ' 'NR==w { print nw; next } { print } ' And so on for any other similar tasks. A script that prompts you for line and word number, prints it, and lets you enter a new value should be un

Re: [9fans] command repetition in sam/acme

2009-03-03 Thread Uriel
Ok, I'm a moron for not reading the original post before answering. Never mind. uriel On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Uriel wrote: > awk '{n=n+NF} n>1000 {print ":"NR; exit}' > > That will print something you can plumb and go to the line you want. > >

Re: [9fans] command repetition in sam/acme

2009-03-03 Thread Uriel
awk '{n=n+NF} n>1000 {print ":"NR; exit}' That will print something you can plumb and go to the line you want. Should be obvious enough how to generalize into a reusable script. (Typed from memory and not tested.) uriel On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM, roger peppe w

Re: [9fans] threads vs forks

2009-03-03 Thread Uriel
g to fork, make sure you compile statically, dynamic linking is almost as evil as pthreads. But this is lunix, so what do you expect? uriel On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:19 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:52 AM, hugo rivera wrote: >> >> Hi, >> this

Re: [9fans] Calling vac from C

2009-02-20 Thread Uriel
if the original design decision was really worth it. Peace uriel [1]: http://werc.cat-v.org On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:41 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> I believe that >> 1) Its too much trouble parsing the output everytime. > > i don't buy that.  that takes very little cod

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 source history (was: Re: source browsing via http is back)

2009-02-11 Thread Uriel
'native' git interface for more efficient cloning)? Peace uriel On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Nathaniel W Filardo wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 02:45:43PM -0800, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 17:28 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: >> > what l

Re: [9fans] FileServer grid

2009-02-07 Thread Uriel
It isn't http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9/sys/src/ uriel On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:00 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> The link is *not* broken, plan9.bell-labs.com is, sadly and >> unsurprisingly, broken. > > this is incorrect. bell labs web site is working just fine. > > - erik > >

Re: [9fans] FileServer grid

2009-02-07 Thread Uriel
The link is *not* broken, plan9.bell-labs.com is, sadly and unsurprisingly, broken. uriel On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > I'd like to move our softwares to Linux + Apache (where mounting a 9p > fileserver would be easy), but actually it's a Windows +

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Uriel
Cool, thanks again! uriel On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Russ Cox wrote: >> P.S.: Silly question, why is du(1) not built by default in p9p? The >> code already there seems to work as far as I can tell.. > > It's a long story, dating back to when the standard mode of

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Uriel
That was even faster than I expected. Thanks Russ! uriel P.S.: Silly question, why is du(1) not built by default in p9p? The code already there seems to work as far as I can tell.. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Russ Cox wrote: > Sed is fixed in plan9port. > > $ hg diff sed.c

[9fans] sed crash

2009-02-04 Thread Uriel
oy the fun of fixing it. Peace uriel

Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?

2009-01-29 Thread Uriel
helping one keep track of local changes without messing everything up. Of course they also help with things like merges, changelog generation, etc. but I suspect those things are not really wanted. uriel On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:53 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> They [hg/mecurial] are infi

Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?

2009-01-27 Thread Uriel
icky stuff is merges and such, which we don't really need to replace replica). So, all that is needed to get rid of replica is the determination to do so, and I'm sure many people will be happy to help in the effort. Peace uriel P.S.: Other problems this would solve is fast and effi

Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?

2009-01-27 Thread Uriel
> Maybe sources _is_ sick. Or maybe replica sucks. But people keep telling me that replica's unreliability, painful slowness, and general clunkyness, are all in my imagination, so what do I know... uriel

Re: [9fans] p9 file server (npfs) w/ authentication from heterogenous systems

2009-01-25 Thread Uriel
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen > Authentication isn't currently supported by any of the UNIX servers (to my knowledge). At least Inferno and one python 9p implementation do auth on Unix servers. uriel

Re: [9fans] Changelogs & Patches?

2009-01-21 Thread Uriel
d probably will always be until somebody replaces it. There was some idea of replacing it with a version of ken's fs that uses a venti backend... Venti's rock solid design is the only thing that makes fossil minimally tolerable despite its usual tendency of stepping on its hair and falling on his face. uriel > This is quite worrisome for me. At least compared to > ZFS it is. > > Thanks, > Roman.

Re: [9fans] Les Misérables

2009-01-18 Thread Uriel
sly found > inside /n/sources/contrib/steve/chatfs-unfinished.tgz). I seem to remember Mjl, the author if the inferno ircfs, wrote an ircfs for Plan 9 ages ago. Still, seems like a total waste of time when you have a perfectly fine one in limbo, which is a much more convenient language for building such a thing anyway. uriel

Re: [9fans] pull doesn't work due to unavailable sources; travelmate 291LCi specials

2009-01-09 Thread Uriel
What was wrong with the old way of doing mirroring with lsr? It worked quite nicely, and was way more reliable and infinitely faster than replica. uriel On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave wrote: > hello > > Geoff is working to get a replica/pull set up to

Re: [9fans] directly opening Plan9 devices

2009-01-04 Thread Uriel
on of any such design. Seems that despite the many years of thinking, this is still a tricky problem, and # has turned out to be 'good enough' to keep any alternative from appearing. Peace uriel On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 12:41 PM, wrote: >> No one has yet offered a working, cle

Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0

2009-01-02 Thread Uriel
having inferno apps use the Plan 9 (or drawterm) draw device directly would help, but I seem to remember Charles didn't think it would make a big difference, maybe somebody should test it and see if we can track down where the slowdown comes from... uriel On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:

Re: [9fans] Changelogs & Patches?

2008-12-30 Thread Uriel
ent trees were public... uriel

Re: [9fans] Changelogs & Patches?

2008-12-30 Thread Uriel
Knowing *who* made the change is often even more useful than the change comment. uriel On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: >>> i've rarely found per-change histories to be any more useful than >>> most other comments, i'm afraid. > >>An

Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0

2008-12-28 Thread Uriel
can blame VMware for lack of documentation, and instead you should blame Apple for building such a lousy and pathetically documented OS. (Actually I have watched an interesting presentation by the folks that built Fusion on the wonders of how clunky and outright schizoid OS X internals are). > I'

Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0

2008-12-28 Thread Uriel
celeration, certainly much better than vesa on most modern video cards. As for drawterm, can we kill it already? 9vx and Inferno are much better alternatives.. uriel

Re: [9fans] (off-topic) Renée French

2008-12-26 Thread Uriel
I can't think of a single scene in Night on Earth that displays anything less than pure artistic genius. Rome is pure comic gold; and Paris, while more subtle, is not far behind. But of them all, New York will always have my heart. uriel On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:40 AM, Jack Johnson

Re: [9fans] Changelogs & Patches?

2008-12-22 Thread Uriel
*Keep records*. I maintain a FIXES file that describes every change to the code since the Awk book was published in 1988" [1] would be anathema to the Plan 9 way of doing things. uriel [1]: http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~bwk/testing.html On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrot

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
No, '+1' means that he agrees and supports the quoted statement. uriel On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:04 AM, wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:55:50PM -0500, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote: >>> It would be a bit of work but definitely feasible if there's interest. >&

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
Yea, stupid retarded moron I am to give a fuck about the welfare of Plan 9 and its future. After all, I have only invested I don't know how many hundreds of hours of my life in it... uriel On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:52 AM, wrote: >> In fact, one could actually look at what Jo

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
est the BG code at home?! :-) Because we unworthy dirty masses should not bother with what we are not supposed to be interested in. uriel

Re: [9fans] This is classic.

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
d, that displays their usual ignorance of Plan 9 and how its development 'works'. uriel

Re: [9fans] This is classic.

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
D-bus, a disgrace that should never have even been invented, if 9P on linux had not been dead-on-arrival. uriel On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:28 PM, ron minnich wrote: > For no reason that I can see I am now getting this message via a dialogue box: > Packagekit Error > Failed to reset ge

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
Didn't know the amd64 kernel doesn't live in /sys/src/9/pc/. Sorry, I should have guessed that /sys/src/9/not-for-the-unworthy-unwashed-masses/ was much more likely location. Peace uriel On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM, wrote: > This source is backported to the PC kernel in

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
Does it work now with non-amd64 kernels? Peace uriel On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM, wrote: > Devtrace is ready for your consumption, hot out of the > oven and juicy fresh. The source is at > /n/sources/contrib/john/devtrace-backport.tgz > which includes all the necessary sourc

Re: [9fans] MacOS X drawterm doesn't toggle

2008-12-09 Thread Uriel
Why not forget drawterm and use 9vx or inferno instead of wasting more efforts on a dead end project? uriel On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Michaelian Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Michaelian Ennis > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Att

Re: [9fans] Mouse jumps in vmware

2008-12-07 Thread Uriel
l release the code for the /bin/aux/vm* vmware tools so we can fix them. Peace uriel - Not holding his breath. > ++L > > PS: I'm a contented small time user of vmware's ESX Server 3i. All > the products from vmware (not many, I must confess) I have had > occasion t

Re: [9fans] Very Off-Topic: Anybody here reads Sci-Fi? :)

2008-12-03 Thread Uriel
ne of his short stories was recommended (by > which the film Blade Runner was inspired). "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" is now a 'short story'? Or your "sci-fi" expertise is equivalent to your technical "expertise"? Peace uriel PS.: And I agr

Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-11-30 Thread Uriel
Ever heard of Inferno? Or are you using java purely for the masochistic pleasure? uriel On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > I'm currently playing around with some ideas for a new (or perhaps > very old ? ;-o)

Re: [9fans] xml2 and APE

2008-11-25 Thread Uriel
w). Again, just say *no* to xml, even the web 2.0 fools have given it up. uriel On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Federico G. Benavento <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hola, > >> I was wondering if I have to use all the APE to use the library for writing >> a Plan 9 appli

Re: [9fans] plan9port

2008-11-21 Thread Uriel
Ignore those packages, they are insanely ancient and don't really fit well with debian's packaging system anyway. Use a checkout from the hg repo instead, and if you really want, build your own packages. uriel On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Rudolf Sykora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [9fans] sources web interface has gone screwy

2008-11-21 Thread Uriel
You mean that http://plan9.bell-labs.com is up at all? Now that is news! uriel On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:40 PM, matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/ > > > sed: Can't open s/PATH/\/n\/sources\/contrib/g; s/CONTRIB/is/g; d-rwxrwxr-

Re: [9fans] on a slightly more fun note

2008-11-19 Thread Uriel
e it just a few times until we hit 65536 or so. Then > the fun begins: turning on all cores, so we get to > 262144 cpus. Fun indeed... uriel

Re: [9fans] D-Bus ...

2008-11-17 Thread Uriel
D-bus is yet one more example of how the linux community has learned nothing from Plan 9 (or even unix itself). And sadly, together with fuse yet another lost opportunity for 9P which will be likely impossible to undo. Peace uriel On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Rogelio Serrano <[EM

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-16 Thread Uriel
some process with lots of wasted resources along the way. In the Plan 9 world, migrating to a new network protocol is pretty much a non-issue, which as I think somebody pointed out, is not hard to accomplish over a weekend. Peace uriel P.S.: I have zero interest in discussing NAT or IPv6, if yo

Re: [9fans] those funny gnu guys

2008-11-15 Thread Uriel
You don't need the crowds for this kind of 'wisdom', google has been one of the main pushers for distributed compilation lately... with ken on board, that is a rather sad thing to waste resources on. uriel On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 7:29 AM, John Barham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [9fans] Help downloading Plan B using hget

2008-11-14 Thread Uriel
tures' and implement more standards. uriel On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Nov 14, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Uriel wrote: > >> I wonder why was stderr invented... >&g

Re: [9fans] Help downloading Plan B using hget

2008-11-14 Thread Uriel
I wonder why was stderr invented... uriel On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Nov 14, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Dave Eckhardt wrote: > >> commentary > > This is because tho

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-12 Thread Uriel
ld give one access to such 'features' from standard cat/echo interface, something which no lunix system can currently do... If I understood erik correctly, .L will even add auth into the protocol... I guess that only leaves us missing sunrpc for 9P to match NFS4's beauty. > That's just a taste. They're really very very different. May Glenda bless the IBM-induced standard wisdom. uriel > ron > >

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread Uriel
How cool! Tell me more Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. uriel On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:32 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 9grid is a distributed computing project, which features prominently > the Plan 9 from Bell Labs operating system > &

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-11 Thread Uriel
vails, that is what doomed .u and will doom .L and other such silly and pointless hacks, trying to butcher 9P into becoming FUSE, way to go, and pray for ten thousand monkeys with typewriters because you will need them to beat the lunix monkeys at their own game. (Wasn't the disaster of adding .u to p9p a clear enough indication of how hopeless that path is?) Peace uriel

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread Uriel
What is a '9grid'? uriel On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11 Nov, 15:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > Ok, i just ran some local commands from cpu server, and it is ok, i'm >> > gonna use the cpu servers only like a co

Re: [9fans] central list of bugs

2008-10-30 Thread Uriel
The 'community' (whatever that is) is not interested. uriel On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Rudolf Sykora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks, > >> is there any central place, where there is a list of kn

Re: [9fans] tracing & bricking the e1000e on Linux

2008-10-27 Thread Uriel
We don't have to fear about that with Plan 9, the trace device is for the amd64 kernel, no danger of that bricking anything any time soon. uriel On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:19 PM, matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry if I got this wrong but iirc there was a discussio

Re: [9fans] non greedy regular expressions

2008-10-24 Thread Uriel
t C++ is to C. Maybe Plan 9 regexps are not as 'powerful', but at least I can understand them. uriel

Re: [9fans] Are there any blind users of Plan 9?

2008-10-20 Thread Uriel
acme users like me: http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/sam_lang_tutorial/ ) uriel On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2) An option in rio to automatically open a new window >> 3) A window switching program for rio (think alt+tab in Windows)

Re: [9fans] Reading man pages in acme

2008-10-17 Thread Uriel
This has nothing to do with acme, see plumber(4) and /mnt/plumb/rules uriel On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 7:50 PM, hugo rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello: > When one is using acme under plan 9, it is possible to click in a > given man page name, for example 9pserve(4),

Re: [9fans] fossil:diskWriteRawFailed error with Plan 9 on Microsoft Virtual PC

2008-10-12 Thread Uriel
> Although, the last update to sources is dated April 12, 2008. What makes you think that? uriel

Re: [9fans] fossil:diskWriteRawFailed error with Plan 9 on Microsoft Virtual PC

2008-10-12 Thread Uriel
> Wait for the next ISO release and hope for the best. Useful, stable > patches--and hopefully the one that fixes this problem--will have found their > way into binaries by then. What next ISO release? uriel

Re: [9fans] 9vx mercurial

2008-10-04 Thread Uriel
I just did a fresh clone of the vx32 tree, it took less than a minute, hg is really fast, I suspect your connection to the server hung up or something. Best wishes uriel On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Fernan Bolando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have recently tried getting mercuria

Re: [9fans] trace device paper from aki&john&ron now available

2008-09-30 Thread Uriel
This is very cool. When will the source for the trace device itself become available? Thanks and best wishes uriel On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:15 AM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This was going into greece but I am not going and they aren't either so: > /n/sources

Re: [9fans] The late upamalloc

2008-09-27 Thread Uriel
the amd64 port, so good luck getting hold of that, hahaha. Pace uriel On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Brian L. Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, I've been taking a crack at the broadcom driver > that's been lying around. It's pretty old and used > the upamal

Re: [9fans] sdiahci.c on sources broken?

2008-09-25 Thread Uriel
buted more than others. Peace uriel

Re: [9fans] ape/psh can't exec in 9vx

2008-09-24 Thread Uriel
Which makes me wonder, doesn't Inferno have to deal with the same issue? It has never been quite clear to me how it does it, the whole inferno<->host user mapping stuff has always confused me. Peace uriel On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:09 PM, roger peppe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [9fans] ape/psh can't exec in 9vx

2008-09-24 Thread Uriel
Or we could use extended attributes to store the plan9-related bits. I'm joking, I'm joking! I just couldn't resist mentioning such wicked idea ;)) Probably having fossil become part of the default setup would be the best. Peace uriel On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Stev

Re: [9fans] Init hangs

2008-09-22 Thread Uriel
I would love to try the patch. And I'm still baffled as to why the installer works but the standard kernels don't. Peace uriel On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:54 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thanks Eric. Now I need to try to find the errant code, but I can&#

Re: [9fans] 9p over high-latency

2008-09-18 Thread Uriel
in file servers wont work properly (I might be mistaken, and certainly don't remember the details). This is not to say that there is no use for a protocol like Op (it shares much in common with http, which clearly has found lots of use in the 'real world'). Peace uriel On Thu, Sep 18

Re: [9fans] purposeful omission or amnesia

2008-09-13 Thread Uriel
Yea, fascism and censure will solve the problem! God forbid we stop feeding the trolls! Peace uriel On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 6:53 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> s/completely/almost &/ >> >> Please don't try to educate me > > This is a mailing

[9fans] Driver writing workshop at IWP9. Was: Re: apropos of the glendix post

2008-09-05 Thread Uriel
to whoever writes the best/most driver(s) during the conference. Maybe they are not top of the line anymore, but they were worth quite a bit more than $99. I also can also bring an OLPC XO if anyone is interested in working further on the Inferno/Plan 9 ports. Peace and best wishes uriel P.S.: I

Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post

2008-09-04 Thread Uriel
oever gets stuck. Anyone from the Program Committee wants to comment on this? Richard? Peace uriel P.S.: Maybe to make things easier, it would be helpful to setup a public plan9 server people can both drawterm/cpu to and boot from their custom kernels for testing purposes, that way even not-fully

Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post

2008-09-04 Thread Uriel
Maybe similar sessions for 'file server writing' or 'limbo programming' might be nice for those not familiar with those subjects (and thanks to 9vx and hosted the required setups would allow people with non-plan9 laptops to participate). Peace uriel On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 2:

Re: [9fans] apropos of the glendix post

2008-09-02 Thread Uriel
Interesting. Where is the source for 9sys? Peace uriel On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:09 AM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just stumbled across a talk I gave in 2002: > > Here's one slide: > > How to fix this (2): 9sys > We are building a Plan 9 system cal

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-21 Thread Uriel
mited to resources that can be meaningfully > represented as file systems. Representing a relational database as a file > system is meaningless. The better representation is something along the > lines of the System::Data::DataGrid class on Microsoft .NET framework. Ah, interesting example, isn't it sad that every database system on unix (or windows) needs to include its own networking code, its own authentication, etc.? Peace uriel

Re: [9fans] fossil permission checking

2008-08-06 Thread Uriel
s the same rules to everyone. This is one of the things that were badly broken in the Unix security model and was fixed in Plan 9. I specially recommend reading the 'Security in Plan 9' paper. Peace uriel On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Benjamin Huntsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &

Re: [9fans] 9fans.net/archive

2008-08-05 Thread Uriel
Ah, the old format was very nice, but to have threading at last is very nice too, but I agree having both would be best. Is the code used to generate the 9fans.net web archives somewhere? The output is much better than any other mailing list web archive I have seen. uriel On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at

Re: [9fans] Reliable 9vx(.OSX) crash

2008-08-05 Thread Uriel
The hg web interface can automatically provide tarballs of the latest tip, simply add: allow_archive = bz2 zip to your hgweb.config (there is a way to do this per-project, but I don't remember how). For an example of how it works see http://repo.cat-v.org/hg/ uriel On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Blue Gene

2008-08-04 Thread Uriel
reads. Why not use rsc's libtask instead? It would avoid most of the p9p baggage (which certainly it is not designed to make it easy for people to build apps that depend on it). libtask is small enough that it could easily be distributed together with xcpu. Just an ignorant suggestion by someone that is not even clear on what xcpu does. uriel

Re: [9fans] patch for installation in vmware

2008-07-20 Thread Uriel
I thought I had submitted a patch for this a while ago (which as accepted), but maybe I missed the installer. In any case, using patch(1) will have a better chance of getting in. Peace and best wishes uriel On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Antonin Vecera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [9fans] venti + Nt

2008-07-16 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Benjamin Huntsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone gotten Nt to read/write from Venti on a Plan 9 or Linux system? > > I figure one could set up something with SAMBA, but there's no native 9p for > Nt, right? There is native 9p for Nt. uriel

Re: [9fans] 8 cores

2008-07-16 Thread Uriel
company's Oracle database > on it. > Not because it's not worthy of doing so, but such things just aren't compiled > for it. You might be able to run Oracle with linuxemu... if Firefox runs, anything can! uriel

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