On 15/03/2011 22:07, Bruce Ellis wrote:
Sounds cool. I'm using AVRs in the jeep fit out for the expedition.
Anyone else here playing with these chips?
yes, I have STK-500 dev kit a pile of chips
I have a little runtime Forth-like for writing code
On 16/12/2010 07:57, Bruce Ellis wrote:
my little buddy mark v. shany is about to turn 30. what a rascal.
i found this today, which is when he was fascinated with kate,
http://groups.google.com/group/net.singles/browse_thread/thread/e015681abe01adc6/b4b762de5d50e71d#b4b762de5d50e71d
i'll have
On 06/16/10 10:11, hugo rivera wrote:
Can someone clarify why the program included outputs 'AB00' (as I
expect) on 32 bit systems and 'AB00' on 64 bit systems?
where all those 1's came from? what's the portable way of doing this?
sorry for newbie questions like this.
On 20/04/2010 11:45, Adriano Verardo wrote:
Hi all.
I'm building an industrial application hosted by several independent
cpu server,
each of them booted from a CFlash on sdD0.
The application doesn't write on sdD0 and there are no redirection on
local files
in the cpurc scripts.
In this
On 01/04/2010 17:01, Corey Thomasson wrote:
But OTOH, who's still making SOTA VHS players (ignoring the VHS/DVD
combos and VHS-USB thingies)
Search for : LG MG64 VHS VCR
On 29/03/2010 21:07, Georg Lehner wrote:
maht wrote:
Until today i'm just a stubborn believer in Plan9. Real world
experience with this system
is, that nothing else works (out of the box) and nobody else uses
it, besides people working
with and for Plan9 just for the sake of it.
Sorry
Until today i'm just a stubborn believer in Plan9. Real world
experience with this system
is, that nothing else works (out of the box) and nobody else uses it,
besides people working
with and for Plan9 just for the sake of it.
Sorry to hear you think like that. I've been using Plan9 for about
On 26/03/2010 11:58, hugo rivera wrote:
maybe this doesn't happen on a native plan 9 installation
loop% echo 1.75e308+1.75e308 | hoc
hoc 6137: suicide: sys: fp: numeric overflow fppc=0x3004 status=0xb988
pc=0x3a75
On 25/03/2010 14:08, erik quanstrom wrote:
http://lwn.net/Articles/378219/
[...] anything which combines tricky locking
and 30-line preprocessor macros is going to raise eyebrows.
But the core concept here is simple: [...]
oh, really?
- erik
Trying to acquire one
On 25/03/2010 17:11, Corey Thomasson wrote:
Not really related, but I got a good laugh from this.
As soon as I opened this email in gmail, the targeted ad changed to
Editing xml is difficult.
well that is true, the following snippets are not the same, the second
has two more nodes
I'd like
something where I could look at a list of components for an entire
Plan 9 compatible machine, or see if anybody else is still using
component X.
John
If it's been thrown in the trash, it should work great!
I mean that as a slur against the upgrade cycle rather than Plan9, I
have
Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might
have just what we needed for the 9phone.
One of these days I'll have something like this on my desk
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9311
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/
On 12/03/2010 10:53, hugo rivera wrote:
Hello,
I have a Slackware installation running on my box. On top of it, I
often use qemu to run plan9, but it's inconvenient to constantly keep
track of the things I do there, like C programs, because many of them
are also useful under Slackware (then I
Hi all,
I am trying 9pfuse (p9p) on my Linux (Fedora 10), and the access to
remote directories/files is extremly slow.
Do I make something wrong?
Thanks in advance.
Pavel
Two things you can test with :
1) real plan9 to the same place
2) qemu plan9 on Fedora to the same place
It's
so you're completely disk bound? if disk activity on the windows
box is also low, your venti machine must be suffering.
It took just over 8 hours to copy 2.2Gb of data from an idle system to a
mostly idle system. The network is 1gbit.
So it's not maxing out the disk, not maxing out the
Hi,
I'm doing Windows - Venti using Limbo
In general all is well.
But when I unvac the resulting score with 9p9 on Debian it segfaults
because 'My Documents' is dr-xr-x-- so unvac creates a read only
directory and then tries to write into it.
I've got round it for now by chmoding 770 'My
wouldn't it suffice to set temporary permissions of 777 and fixup
when leavinging that directory?
depth first, so it could be a while in between. Not really a massive
problem but still an issue
btw. it is a great way to backup. 1% of CPU while running, which is
doubly fortunate
http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/6349-Perceived-Risk.html
modify the source of fc to specify an offset is
probably your easiest solution if you want to
carry on copying at the same speed.
If you're going to start hacking fcp then just add a switch that says
'resume' and it works out the offset for you
On 25/01/2010 01:45, Akshat Kumar wrote:
what are some suggested ways to copy just
the rest of the file, without starting all over?
dd
On 23/01/2010 19:01, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
Maybe it only
happens once in 1000 times, but in that 0.1% of the time, my
finger coming down on the return key accidentally hits the up
arrow and the timing just so happens that I rerun the previous
command instead of the one I just typed, sometimes
search the archives for mails subjected as :
breadth first walking
and
du and find
from December 2009
On 22/01/2010 17:29, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
Hello,
I've been wondering.
The plan9 'replacement' for the (linux/unix-like) find command,
according to the faq, is, in a way,
I've been lurking for the past few months and I've really enjoyed
reading the messages from this list. I'm looking for some ideas or
advice---here's the story: I'm pursuing a Master's degree in computer
science at a small school with limited options for classes. I'm
enrolled in a graduate-level
On 20/01/2010 21:13, Eris Discordia wrote:
Aren't DirectShow filter graphs and programs like
GraphStudio/GraphEdit one possible answer to the video processing
question? Filter graphs can be generated by any program, GUI or CLI,
and fed to DirectShow provided one learns the in and out of
By the end of May, all the root servers should be running DNSSEC
http://royal.pingdom.com/2010/01/19/the-internet-is-about-to-get-a-lot-safer/
Is Plan9 ready for such a move?
Hi,
I updated http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/maht/httpd/* to
sync with current source
/n/sources/contrib/maht/httpd/*
It adds -N option to stop it dropping to none which you have to be the
hostowner to kill
and logs any 404's to /sys/log/httpd/log
I tried to see if it's
As soon as I posted patch came back
I've submitted it as httpd-none and changed -N to -u to match a
different patch that does the same thing for another program
The slightly unobvious part (unless you try man man) is :
% man lookman
which should lead you to
% lookman cd
which should logically make you try
% man cdfs
which explains about CD writing, damn
hmm, the See Also sections says something with 9660 in it (your physical
CD contains an
I understand the everything is text idea
except therefore, you don't :) everything is a file
unless you can read cat /dev/screen
All being well this is a mail routed by my pipefrom
/n/sources/contrib/maht/rc/pipefrom
It has seen the outgoing address of 9fans and changed it to 9fans@9fans.net
It has seen the outgoing address of 9fans@9fans.net and set upasname to be
maht-9f...@maht0x0r.net
unknown fn() Module $Keyring PC 1445847206
unknown fn() Module ./sign_test.dis PC 42
externalexec() sh.b:919.2, 30
rsa
maht
l7w4uJyl+UlC6y4cG/tGYaKRcb5ep1igRvlfumxj3aEBDHu1vKZsmMmHzHGCQZl1B9MlAdY+paCoNqP+In1nCcYdn9S9zIBACz9TLXIk9xGCKKhvPw5rlgSwPOEKVcK7O/kvMhZUOPKm+Woefgx9HaenWX2CqzUr56j8kFyZcN1Ax5
It sounds to me like you have one specific problem you are trying to
generalize by sending ADTs across the wire. Microsoft and IBM solved
it with Com Corba - later picked up by GNOME for the same job -
though, of course, they added RPC into the mix.
XML, S-expr, JSON all try and solve the same
Though I'm guessing that I'll be installing Stefan's vim port asap - I'm
_extremely_ happy that this exists.
http://vmsplice.net/9vim.html
If you want Linux, you know where to find it
ah, the latest n00b writing tutorials :) welcome to the club
there is also this...
http://www.magma.com.ni/moin/Plan9Tutorial
So, I'm beginning with a tutorial
now if somebody can create a script to lookup words in dictionary.com
preformatted without ads. :)
cat $home/bin/rc/odict EOF
#!/bin/rc
hget http://dictionary.com/browse/$1 | htmlfmt | awk ' /dictionary
results/, /Cite This Source/ {print } '
EOF
chmod 755 $home/bin/rc/odict
odict
Lorenzo Bolla wrote:
Hi all,
I've just installed (with few difficulties, I must admit) a fresh
Plan9 on my Dell Inspiron laptop.
I played with it and I'd really like to study it and get used to it.
Ideally, I would like to make it my everyday OS, to do all the nice
stuff you can do with a
the problem with fgb's ssh2 (last time I used it) was that it didn't
do many optional things like -L -R -p
I had to fiddle with the source to get it to use port 222 (yay FOSS)
So there's still room for some work if anyone's up for it
erik quanstrom wrote:
I use ~ patterns for URI matching on my site
what are ~ patterns?
rc shell pattern matching
P.S. So far it seems that werc wouldn't be able to manage
highly dynamic and volatile URI hierarchies as long as it
is run under anything but Plan9. Ironically it doesn't
seem to run there.
I use ~ patterns for URI matching on my site
http://ten.steponnopets.net/
it's a bit of a work
Some potential enterprise users might also get interested in running
many Plan 9 instances on Microsoft Virtual Server platform after
seeing it run on Virtual PC (Due to its light weight Plan 9 may be a
good choice for some virtual hosting services).
might makes right ?
one issue with multiple 9p requests is that tags are not order enforced
consider the contrived directory tree
1/a/a
1/a/b
1/b/a
1/b/b
Twalk 1 fid 1
Twalk 2 fid a
Twalk 3 fid b
Tag 3 could conceivably arrive at the server before Tag 2
cgi is more than parsing query strings, there are at least two other
variable passing mechanisms x-www-form-encoded (query string as the POST
body) and multipart/form-data - the sort that's required when uploading
binary stuff.
Common Gateway Interface is a 36 page RFC :
9p is efficient as long as your latency is 30ms
What kind of latency?
For speed of light in fibre optic 30ms is about 8000km (New York to San
Francisco and back)
in that 30ms a 3.2Ghz P4 could do 292 million instructions
There's an interesting article about it in acmq
what could we do today, but don't quite dare?
a Blue Ray writer does 50Gb per disk (we're supposed to be getting one
soon, so maybe I can report back about this later)
ArcVault SCSI autoloading tape drives do from 9.6tb - 76tb
erik quanstrom wrote:
what could we do today, but don't quite dare?
a Blue Ray writer does 50Gb per disk (we're supposed to be getting one
soon, so maybe I can report back about this later)
ArcVault SCSI autoloading tape drives do from 9.6tb - 76tb
J.R. Mauro wrote:
What kind of latency?
For speed of light in fibre optic 30ms is about 8000km (New York to San
Francisco and back)
Assuming you have a direct fiber connection with no routers in
between. I would say that is somewhat rare.
The author found that from
How difficult would it be to use rails or merb in plan9? Is it feasible?
Not Rails or merb or anything non Plan 9 but a few of us are building an
rc shell based system that works anywhere CGI and Plan 9 / plan9port is
available.
http://werc.cat-v.org/
If you want true isolation between the users you should give
them each a VM, not a Plan 9 account.
Russ
So we chose to use a VM, now we have two problems
*http://tinyurl.com/cuul2m
or
*
*
*
My Internet socializing now is mostly:
- email
- calling people with Skype
- reading and commenting in blogs
- posting in my own blogs
- reading and posting in the Linux Questions forums
- reading and posting on this list
- Facebook
better keep another system handy, fully
andrey mirtchovski wrote:
i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to
specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to
receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent beforehand to
establish the available types of documentation (.doc, .pdf,
These docs aren't dated.
they appeared in the last week or so, before that was a page saying TPL
pulled funding and sacked Moore
It is just weird, all very deja vu. The previous generation of Moore's
designs went through a similar quagmire to nowhere.
Robby
poor man, how stressful is that !
but rather that using text streams makes
A|B possible for any A and any B and any input.
What is this text of which you speak ? ASCII EBCDIC UTF-16 UTF-8
ISO8859 etc. etc. etc.
SeaForth is dead already
http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm
http://colorforth.com/S40.htm
Bruce Ellis wrote:
Please share your experience.
http://groups.google.com/group/casella
brucee
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky
pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com wrote:
I am playing with
or perhaps more to the point the
'w' for wheel and 'p' for pedals? you'll never finish.
My steering wheel combines 15 digital inputs (buttons) 3 analogue inputs
(2 pedals and the wheel itself). My joystick has 3 analogues (2 axes of
the stick + a throttle lever)
If one presumes that an
not every environment is Plan 9 so /env is not an option.
Arbitrary limits seem a bit, well, arbitrary ! (not that I'm complaining).
With a flat memory address space and Gbs of memory chucking a realloc in
there is not totally out of technical bounds.
Using rc in werc neutralizes OS
From the picture, the thing has USB. Gotta be a way to DIY ethernet or
wifi into it...
http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/news/2008/12/24/1_New_driver_for_usb_ethernet_devices/
*
*
organizing some bug-fixing weekends or install fests, improving
performance and usability of Plan 9 in various VM's (since this
is probably the safest way to ensure that a new user's install
works the *first* time)...
I sent a Plan9 Qemu qcow to the osZoo people a while ago but
That's a fact. If you have access to The ACM Queue, check out
p16-cantrill-concurrency.pdf (Cantrill and Bonwich on concurrency).
Or you can rely on one of the hackish attempts at email attachment
management or whatever conceptual error lead to this :
nice one.
Getting it upstream would be great. Another you know Y that's in Linux
now, it's from Plan9, but if you want Plan9 you know where to find it
(unless it's down today).
Nathaniel W Filardo wrote:
Just a reminder, nothing novel: if you don't mind being root on the host
briefly (to run ifconfig, brctl, and tunctl commands), you can create a new
TAP interface (and use the file descriptor in 9vx to back a devether) and
use Linux's bridging to get ethernet frames
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