Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote:
|This is why harmful.cat-v.org is so important, and it's why I don't have
These pages contain indeed several of the most stupid things
i have read in a very long time.
|macrocultures in the bud; otherwise we wind up with POSIX everywhere, and
|an entire
And cheap, energy efficient computers for poor kids, which is
a good thing,
I have access to a few thousands poor kids, age 0 to 18. Could I
please have some of these cheap, energy efficient computers for
them?
Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Lucio.
lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
| And cheap, energy efficient computers for poor kids, which is
| a good thing,
|
|I have access to a few thousands poor kids, age 0 to 18. Could I
|please have some of these cheap, energy efficient computers for
|them?
I can't help you there -- not from me.
Anyway: no real kind of starvation over here, on my side.
That makes you an authority in some field, but none that can shed
light on the future of computing for poor children.
++L
This is why harmful.cat-v.org is so important, and it's why I don't have
any interest in suffering fools on internet mailing lists.
I can’t stop laughing.
PS: kudos to Ruben
—
Federico G. Benavento
benave...@gmail.com
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I gather that command is for fossil, and fossil isn't used anymore.
Fossil is still the standard disk file system for Plan 9.
Trying to use 9front by following Plan 9 documentation, or vice versa,
is likely to lead to much frustration.
It's not super required to add a new user on standalone systems.
Obviously file/auth servers have more of a need. You're system isn't
less secure using Glenda. You're going to be host owner no matter
what user you use.
ah, but being hostowner gives you no special status on the file
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello !
From - https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/admin
Adding Users
Add a new user on the file server:
echo newuser username /srv/cwfs.cmd
The newuser filesystem command is described in the
Did you append or truncate. That command should work.
2013/12/23 Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello !
From - https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/admin
Adding Users
Add a new user on the file server:
that command file is really a bidirectional pipe. you didnt
read the pipe so you do not see the command response.
to get in a interactive dialog with the fileserver, you can run:
con -Cl /srv/cwfs.cmd
to leave this dialog, enter Ctrl+\enter and on cons
prompt, type q
the fileserver console
The above echo command did nothing to the /adm/users file for me on
vanilla 9front.
Has anyone verified that he's even running cwfs?
sl
It works now. The docs were unclear to me. For example, this works:
echo newuser george /srv/cwfs.cmd
And this does not work (unsupprisingly):
echo george george /srv/cwfs.cmd
Unless you really look at it, it is unclear when to make a substitution (or
fill in a variable), and when to type it
Or perhaps:
echo newuser USER-NAME /srv/cwfs.cmd
replace USER-NAME with the new user's name. If most commands are in
lowercase, it might make sense to use uppercase names as things that need
to be specified.
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
It works
Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name:
Or perhaps:
echo newuser USER-NAME /srv/cwfs.cmd
replace USER-NAME with the new user's name. If most commands are in
lowercase, it might make sense to use uppercase names as things that need
to be specified.
Or perhaps we use the documentation as
If most commands are in
lowercase, it might make sense to use uppercase names as things that need
to be specified.
If you view man pages as typeset with troff, you will see them
in their full glory with syntactic categories suggested by different
fonts. Instead of typing 'man cmd' try 'man
or man -p
--
cinap
On Mon Dec 23 14:30:58 EST 2013, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote:
or man -p
an equiv would be man -P, but man -p does work, though it's
a completely different approach and looks different due to font
handling.
- erik
Documentation is always clear to people who already know the material but
use the documentation as a reminder. It is difficult for a newbie to
differentiate out-of-date material, branch specific material, and valid
documentation. I am providing feedback from a newbie's perspective. You
can
On Mon Dec 23 15:04:54 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote:
Or perhaps we use the documentation as a way to weed out people who cannot
reason.
Documentation is always clear to people who already know the material but
use
I somewhat agree that some of the answers you are getting have somewhat
been (sometimes, not all, and not constantly) been insulting. But a year or
so ago I was also a Plan9 newbie, and I just read the manuals when I didn't
know how to do something. I followed some long-ago-read advice of first
right right. my mistake. :)
--
cinap
Thanks for the input. I am making an increased effort to search before
asking. I intuitively sense that Plan 9 has something significant to offer
based on the little I know. The actual mechanics have been a challenge for
me. Constructive feedback is deeply appreciated.
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013
Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name:
Documentation is always clear to people who already know the material but
use the documentation as a reminder. It is difficult for a newbie to
differentiate out-of-date material, branch specific material, and valid
documentation. I am providing
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote:
...
Speaking of assumptions, I'm not convinced 'increasing the number of users'
does anyone any good. It didn't help Windows any.
khm
Although number of users may not translate into a quality system (Microsoft
is a
On Dec 23, 2013, at 16:45, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
money to pay core contributors (you?)
http://mveety.com/just-send-the-money
All proceeds go to me, the majority of which then go to khm.
There is value in a community.
What remains of Plan 9 might be a better example of failing to seek
out community in order to preserve the value, which is sometimes
not clearly perceived by the interested few who show up at the party.
Conversely, UNIX diverged from its original design philosophy
On Mon Dec 23 17:10:13 EST 2013, s...@9front.org wrote:
There is value in a community.
What remains of Plan 9 might be a better example of failing to seek
out community in order to preserve the value, which is sometimes
not clearly perceived by the interested few who show up at the party.
What remains of Plan 9 might be a better example of failing to seek
out community in order to preserve the value, which is sometimes
not clearly perceived by the interested few who show up at the party.
isn't this a false dichotomy? rudeness doesn't preserve value.
The TUPE[0] -related
Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
On Mon Dec 23 17:10:13 EST 2013, s...@9front.org wrote:
isn't this a false dichotomy? rudeness doesn't preserve value.
Neither does gladhanding.
it's easy to point out past mistakes. do you think these were obvious
at the time they were
Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name:
There is value in a community.
Irrelevant; the question at hand is whether your specific participation
in a community enhances its value.
On the other hand, you can live in a cave and do whatever you like
if you wish.
*This* is a false dichotomy.
I feel a community code of conduct doc forthcoming in this list's future.
I'll copy/pasta the one from go-nuts, where the discussion surrounding
it was very lively
Please make sure to include tact sucks on the list.
On Dec 23, 2013, at 4:57 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel a community code of conduct doc forthcoming in this list's future.
I'll copy/pasta the one from go-nuts, where the discussion surrounding it was
very
A quote I like from the 80s at the Labs - netnews is like standing up in a
crowded theater and shouting 'anyone wanna buy a used car?'.
Please consider when posting to his list that you might be doing the same.
(Not directed at anyone specifically).
brucee
On 24 December 2013 13:49, Skip
Greetings,
I've searched the net to find a way to add a new user. The following
command doesn't work:
con -l /srv/fscons
I gather that command is for fossil, and fossil isn't used anymore. I
poked around /srv but couldn't find a substitute. Appreciate any help.
Blake
Hello !
From - https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/admin
Adding Users
Add a new user on the file server:
echo newuser username /srv/cwfs.cmd
If needed, make the new user a member of the upas (email) group:
echo newuser upas +username /srv/cwfs.cmd
The newuser filesystem command is
It's not super required to add a new user on standalone systems. Obviously
file/auth servers have more of a need. You're system isn't less secure using
Glenda. You're going to be host owner no matter what user you use.
On Dec 23, 2013, at 0:19, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
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