Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-15 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Fri, 8/14/15, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: The fundamental issue ... hwdraw(). Tonight's update: Forget what I said last night about hwdraw() and the difficulty of connecting into the devdraw/memdraw/screen stack. I had one of those embarrassing how did it ever work bugs.

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-15 Thread hiro
cute, you should ship with fresnel lenses, then the reference is complete: http://www.wikinoticia.com/images2//s2.alt1040.com/files/2011/11/Brazil2-800x528.jpg There could also be more modern versions for more IKEA styled students:

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-15 Thread Steve Simon
Vncserv must do something similar, maybe that is worth looking at. I went down a similar route but am planning to just address the display as a different type of device, rather than as a plan9 display. Your progress is very impressive, my project stalled - I must get back to it. -Steve On 15

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-15 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Sat, 8/15/15, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: Vncserv must do something similar, maybe that is worth looking at. I went down a similar route but am planning to just address the display as a different type of device, rather than as a plan9 display. Good point. Hadn't thought about

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-15 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Sat, 8/15/15, hiro 23h...@gmail.com wrote: cute, you should ship with fresnel lenses, then the reference is complete: http://www.wikinoticia.com/images2//s2.alt1040.com/files/2011/11/Brazil2-800x528.jpg rotfl... I hadn't made the association until you mentioned it. I may have to mention

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-15 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Sat, 8/15/15, Joseph Stewart joseph.stew...@gmail.com wrote: Brian, does your uni let you publish your curriculum or course notes? Is this something you've ever considered? I should be able to do at least something along those lines. There are corners of the university that get twitchy

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-15 Thread Joseph Stewart
Brian, does your uni let you publish your curriculum or course notes? Is this something you've ever considered? -joe On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: I have tried to email BLS but fear I am being spam filtered... you there? I did get one message

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-14 Thread Steve Simon
I have tried to email BLS but fear I am being spam filtered... you there? -Steve On 12 Aug 2015, at 23:27, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Wed, 8/12/15, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: the gpio pins don't seem accessible through a filesystem api like i see in

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-14 Thread Brian L. Stuart
I have tried to email BLS but fear I am being spam filtered... you there? I did get one message from you, and replied earlier today. Hopefully it got through. A little more update on recent pi playing. I've been working on a little toy the last few days, namely one of those small SPI driven

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-12 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Wed, 8/12/15, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: the gpio pins don't seem accessible through a filesystem api like i see in plan9-bcm (unless i've missed something). I'm pretty sure it's not there.   it would be great to merge that capability in. I've made a start on that this

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-12 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
On Wed, 8/12/15, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote: Is all that on sources somewhere or accessible otherwise? Richard's latest Raspberry Pi repository is available here: /n/sources/contrib/miller/9/bcm Cool. Somehow I missed that. I'll pull it and play with it. Using the

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-12 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Wed, 8/12/15, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote: Is all that on sources somewhere or accessible otherwise? Richard's latest Raspberry Pi repository is available here: /n/sources/contrib/miller/9/bcm Cool. Somehow I missed that. I'll pull it and play with it. Using the github

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-11 Thread Steve Simon
Richard has an i2c and spi driver for the pi. I grafted the inferno i2c file system interface on top of Richards driver, though the sub addressed reads are awaiting my return from holiday. there is a pi gpio and pwm driver which has a pi audio module which sits on top. this produces strange

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-11 Thread Brian L. Stuart
Richard has an i2c and spi driver for the pi. I grafted the inferno i2c file system interface on top of Richards driver, though the sub addressed reads are awaiting my return from holiday. Steve, Is all that on sources somewhere or accessible otherwise? Last night, I pulled devbcm from

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-08 Thread Alexander Schreiber
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 06:42:04AM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: this board has quite a number of features, and might be useful for education if the cost isn't prohibitive. The list is impressive and the schematics ought to make things simpler, but will support for Plan 9 be a real

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-08 Thread hiro
Liinux running on a device sadly doesn't say anything about available documentation or the complexity of the interface that need to be implemented. On 8/8/15, Alexander Schreiber a...@thangorodrim.ch wrote: On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 06:42:04AM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: this board has

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-08 Thread hiro
Also, crazy closed firmware blobs is a violation of our COC. Some people here develop firmware blobs and don't want to hear such insults.

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-08 Thread David du Colombier
Another type of machine worth looking at is the EdgeRouter Lite (aka Erlite 3) from Ubiquiti Networks I agree that the EdgeRouter Lite could be a very good platform to make a MIPS64 port. It has a serial port and runs U-Boot, so it's pretty convenient as as development platform. The

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-08 Thread Anthony Martin
hiro 23h...@gmail.com once said: Also, crazy closed firmware blobs is a violation of our COC. Some people here develop firmware blobs and don't want to hear such insults. It says more about you that you're insulted by something so innocuous. Email me privately if you'd like some real insults.

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-08 Thread lucio
It says more about you that you're insulted by something so innocuous. The humourous tone is slipping... Anyone writes firmware blobs, crazy closed or otherwise, should be reported to the authorities for recycling. Lucio.

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-07 Thread Joseph Stewart
Brian, does your uni let you publish your curriculum or course notes? Is this something you've ever considered? -joe On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'm teaching a special topics course this fall I'm calling Computing in the Small. Right now, I'm

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-07 Thread Nick Owens
brian, i have started work on porting 9front to http://www.elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI20. this board has quite a number of features, and might be useful for education if the cost isn't prohibitive. nick On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'm teaching

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-07 Thread da Tyga
Hi Brian, Plan 9 works really well on a Raspberry Pi B for me. Haven't tried it on a RasPi 2 yet though. I would be rather cautious about so called compatible products. I have yet to meet a product that is truly compatible and the quirks tend to take up a disproportionate amount of time to

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-07 Thread lucio
this board has quite a number of features, and might be useful for education if the cost isn't prohibitive. The list is impressive and the schematics ought to make things simpler, but will support for Plan 9 be a real possibility? Persoanlly, I think Gbit ether is essential and a second ether

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-07 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 7 August 2015 at 18:13, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: So depending on where plan9-bcm stands, it might be just right. That seems to be an old version of /sys/src/9/bcm (perhaps with modifications) so Richard Miller's version in contrib will be more up-to-date, I think.

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-07 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Thu, 8/6/15, lu...@proxima.alt.za lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: Olimex in Bulgaria manufacture and market worldwide a very wide range of AVR and ARM based boards and peripherals.  They target the DIY market.  Pay their site (olimex.com works for me) a visit. They do look interesting, and I

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-07 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Wed, 8/5/15, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: I think the big advantage of the Rpi or Rpi2 (for speed, memory and cores)is that there's a wealth of published projects for them, including hardware ones, and other stuff, and they aren't likely to go away. It's true that

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-07 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Wed, 8/5/15, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: RPI's running something like plan9-bcm (check github) where gpio is exposed should work. I'm going to try plan9-bcm this weekend; i'll keep you posted. Thanks for the pointer. I'll definitely check that out. I'm hoping to

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-05 Thread lucio
I'm looking for something based on ARM or MIPS and that has some useful connection to the external world in the form of GPIOs. SPI, I2C, and analog I/O would be nice to have too. Olimex in Bulgaria manufacture and market worldwide a very wide range of AVR and ARM based boards and

[9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-05 Thread Brian L. Stuart
I'm teaching a special topics course this fall I'm calling Computing in the Small. Right now, I'm leaning toward conducting it on a platform that runs Plan 9. I'm looking for something based on ARM or MIPS and that has some useful connection to the external world in the form of GPIOs. SPI, I2C,

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-05 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 5 August 2015 at 21:39, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: Obviously, the Raspberry Pi is a candidate. I think the big advantage of the Rpi or Rpi2 (for speed, memory and cores) is that there's a wealth of published projects for them, including hardware ones, and other stuff, and

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-05 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
RPI's running something like plan9-bcm (check github) where gpio is exposed should work. I'm going to try plan9-bcm this weekend; i'll keep you posted. I like ODROID hardware, but obviously there isn't a Plan 9 port for it. Arduino Yún (MIPS+AVR) could make a cool device for Plan 9, but the MIPS

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-05 Thread Shane Morris
Lib9p to ESP8266 would be quite good. I got two NodeMCU Rev 2 boards from LearCNC here in Oz, I'm planning on using them in little vacuum cleaner robots. On 8/6/15, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: RPI's running something like plan9-bcm (check github) where gpio is exposed