Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-17 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:34:03 -0400, Akshat Kumar aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net wrote: Speaking of fonts in Acme, using the default, I spent extra amount of time tracking down a bug in my gs(1) source, which was the mix-up between -lijs and -Iijs. Apparently 'I' is shorter than 'l' by some

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-17 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:31:08 -0400, Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com wrote: For Lisp variants ask Alex Shinn(alexsh...@gmail.com), he's got an interesting scheme implementation mostly working. It's a summer of code project this year. Indeed, there are a number of fairly portable Scheme

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-17 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:56:18 -0400, Daniel Lyons fus...@storytotell.org wrote: If that's something you're thinking about doing, let me suggest you take a look at Clojure. The Java aspect aside, it is a good compromise in design between Scheme and Lisp and introduces lots of good ideas.

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-16 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 14, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik r...@sun.com wrote: I looked at it for a while and came with a realization that it could be just a tad heavier than what I need for most of the stuff I do. Plus I'm not sure how to port it to Plan9 without first porting the JVM. I actually

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-15 Thread Akshat Kumar
Speaking of fonts in Acme, using the default, I spent extra amount of time tracking down a bug in my gs(1) source, which was the mix-up between -lijs and -Iijs. Apparently 'I' is shorter than 'l' by some portion of a pixel. how could I possibly miss that ak P.S.: This isn't Acme's fault - it's

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Robert Raschke
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik r...@sun.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 11:55 -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote: I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp variant. Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua on Plan9?

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Pavel Klinkovsky
Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua on Plan9? I am playing with Lua on my Plan9 computer... BTW I have found a difference between Linux and Plan9 version: - Linux version can handle dividing by 0 without crash of Lua interpretter, - Plan9 version cannot. ;-) Pavel

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:58:39 -0400, Daniel Lyons fus...@storytotell.org wrote: I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp variant. Maybe that should be my next side project. Aaron W. Hsu -- Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 14, 2009, at 3:15 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:58:39 -0400, Daniel Lyons fus...@storytotell.org wrote: I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp variant. Maybe that should be my next side project. If that's something you're thinking

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 10:49 -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote: On Aug 14, 2009, at 3:15 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:58:39 -0400, Daniel Lyons fus...@storytotell.org wrote: I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp variant. Maybe that

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua on Plan9? Roman. Kenji has written a webdav server for pegasus (Kenji's httpd branch) using lua.

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Noah Evans
For Lisp variants ask Alex Shinn(alexsh...@gmail.com), he's got an interesting scheme implementation mostly working. It's a summer of code project this year. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Daniel Lyonsfus...@storytotell.org wrote: On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: So, I was

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Akshat Kumar
For Lisp variants ask Alex Shinn(alexsh...@gmail.com), he's got an interesting scheme implementation mostly working. It's a summer of code project this year. See also my post: http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/news/2009/07/19/0/ and the included link to setting it up on Plan 9. Best, ak

[9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of proportional fonts for programming in Acme. This surprised me, to say the least. He even went as far as to mention that SML was the language they

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Paul Donnelly
Aaron W. Hsu arcf...@sacrideo.us writes: Secondly, if you do use proportional width fonts, why, and what troubles did you encounter; what benefits did you encounter? You can't very well engage in weird formatting tricks, but I'm not much a fan of those anyway. IMO, the more attractive letters

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread roger peppe
2009/8/13 Aaron W. Hsu arcf...@sacrideo.us: Firstly, how many of you using Acme for programming on a daily basis remap your fonts so that the fixed width font is the main one that you use? i use proportional fonts in acme for programming. Secondly, if you do use proportional width fonts, why,

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Robert Raschke
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu arcf...@sacrideo.us wrote: So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of proportional fonts for programming in Acme. I've been programming using

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:14:19 GMT Aaron W. Hsu arcf...@sacrideo.us wrote: So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of proportional fonts for programming in Acme. This surprised me, to say the

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of proportional fonts for programming in Acme. This surprised me, to say the least. He even went as

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread ron minnich
I always get a kick out of this exchange:http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/comp.os.plan9/msg02052.html

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Aug 13 18:36:41 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: I always get a kick out of this exchange:http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/comp.os.plan9/msg02052.html it took me at least 5 seconds to realize that abaco was formatting that page correctly. ☺ the key to the joke, however, is there is

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Daniel Lyons fus...@storytotell.orgwrote: On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of proportional fonts for

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 11:55 -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote: I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp variant. Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua on Plan9? Thanks, Roman. P.S. The more I look into Lua (as a way to help C refuge start doing