Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Lucio De Re
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 09:36:11AM +, Admiral Fukov wrote: I'm looking at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9/sys/src/ and I noticed that most of the distribution hasn't been updated in years. Is the development of plan 9 abandoned? Why fix what's perfect? ;-) ++L

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Steve Simon
and I noticed that most of the distribution hasn't been updated in years. Is the development of plan 9 abandoned? No it is not, a lot, depends on which file(s) you are looking at. There has been much work recently on the ARM port (guru plug and beagleboard) Other changes happen as required (or

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Brantley Coile
Unlike many open source systems, plan 9 is stable. Very reliable. It doesn't get changed just for fun. iPhone email On Nov 4, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Admiral Fukov admiralfu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9/sys/src/ and I noticed that most of the

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread dexen deVries
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 09:36:11AM +, Admiral Fukov wrote: I'm looking at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9/sys/src/ and I noticed that most of the distribution hasn't been updated in years. Is the development of plan 9 abandoned? Please note the timestamps in listings

[9fans] we all hava a secret life...

2010-11-04 Thread Gorka Guardiola
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Re: [9fans] we all hava a secret life...

2010-11-04 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: I got spam today anouncing Richard Miller PhD at Yoga yoga... :-) http://www.yogayoga.com/special-events/special-topics-richard-miller -- - curiosity sKilled the cat I've been getting more creative spams lately too.

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Admiral Fukov admiralfu...@gmail.comwrote: I'm looking at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9/sys/src/ and I noticed that most of the distribution hasn't been updated in years. Is the development of plan 9 abandoned? There's a plan9changes google

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Admiral Fukov admiralfu...@gmail.comwrote: I'm looking at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9/sys/src/ and I noticed that most of the distribution hasn't been updated in years. Is the development of plan 9 abandoned? There's a plan9changes

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread John Floren
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Stanley Lieber stanley.lie...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:39 AM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote: There's a plan9changes google group I believe that will let you see the commits that have been going in.

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:39 AM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote: There's a plan9changes google group I believe that will let you see the commits that have been going in. http://groups.google.com/group/plan9changes/topics doesn't show any updates since July, 2008. Is there another way

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: Watch Ron's repository, which Venkatesh posted earlier. http://bitbucket.org/rminnich/sysfromiso On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:39 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: sysfromiso makes that clear. It's a great way to

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Don Bailey
Request to add If you're the kind of person who understands that we don't need to change 'cat' any further, then you understand the work that is going on. to fortune. Ron++ D On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:39 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: ignoring the troll, but for the rest of you

Re: [9fans] we all hava a secret life...

2010-11-04 Thread Richard Miller
A crude imposture. Everyone knows I prefer Korzybski's approach to nodualism.

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Admiral Fukov
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:00 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Admiral Fukov admiralfu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9/sys/src/ and I noticed that most of the distribution hasn't been

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Admiral Fukov
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Venkatesh Srinivas m...@acm.jhu.edu wrote: In the ~8 years since the 4th edition release, there has been pretty continuous work on Plan 9, both at Bell Labs and in the 9fans community; nightly an ISO is constructed and uploaded. Changes have been incremental --

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:39 AM, ron minnich wrote: If you're the kind of person who understands that we don't need to change 'cat' any further, then you understand the work that is going on. But why isn't the source for mk (3929 lines w/ headers, okay 4661 with mkfile and acid) at least as

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread andrey mirtchovski
Some people prefer privacy, others are just assholes who want to pick fights because they are bored. Asking a perfectly valid question is not trolling, unlike your reply that adds nothing to the subject at hand. so, no bait and switch then? was your question answered satisfactorily?

[9fans] glean

2010-11-04 Thread Steve Simon
New toy if anyone is interested, a bit of fun really. glean - a network reconnaissance tool. listens to your ethernet, parses NetBIOS and DHCP requests, mounts itself on /lib/ndb/gleaned which is an ndb(6) file of what it has discovered. /n/sources/contrib/steve/glean.tgz -Steve

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Admiral Fukov
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:19 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.comwrote: Some people prefer privacy, others are just assholes who want to pick fights because they are bored. Asking a perfectly valid question is not trolling, unlike your reply that adds nothing to the subject at

Re: [9fans] glean

2010-11-04 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: New toy if anyone is interested, a bit of fun really. glean - a network reconnaissance tool. listens to your ethernet, parses NetBIOS and DHCP requests, mounts itself on /lib/ndb/gleaned which is an ndb(6) file of what

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:00 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Admiral Fukov admiralfu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9/sys/src/ and I noticed that most of the distribution hasn't been

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Charles Forsyth
But why isn't the source for mk (3929 lines w/ headers, okay 4661 with mkfile and acid) at least as long as all that Java in the ant distribution (213151 lines)? That's a lot of catching up to do. The market has clearly spoken, and it appears that more lines dominates the soup. one interesting

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Venkatesh Srinivas
one interesting thing about that example is that if it were done again for the Plan 9 environment, mk might well be even smaller, since some of the existing functionality isn't really used, or might be achieved by simpler mechanisms, or with functionality added instead by further composition

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-04 Thread Bruce Ellis
mash has a make builtin. very brief, as all the shell type stuff in mk goes away.. brucee On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Venkatesh Srinivas m...@acm.jhu.edu wrote: one interesting thing about that example is that if it were done again for the Plan 9 environment, mk might well be even