On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 02:50:22PM +1100, Bruce Ellis wrote:
mash has a make builtin. very brief, as all the shell type stuff in mk
goes away..
I seem to remember that the mash source was lost?
++L
no. it was the last thing i wrote for the bidness unit.
brucee
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Lucio De Re lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 02:50:22PM +1100, Bruce Ellis wrote:
mash has a make builtin. very brief, as all the shell type stuff in mk
goes away..
I seem to
One of the ugliest interface in Unix is passing a file descriptor between
processes [1]. Does Plan9 provide any mechanism for it?
[1]
http://book.chinaunix.net/special/ebook/addisonWesley/APUE2/0201433079/ch17lev1sec4.html
--
Kirill A. Shutemov
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 12:29:46PM +0200, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
One of the ugliest interface in Unix is passing a file descriptor between
processes [1]. Does Plan9 provide any mechanism for it?
You can pass fds in channels between threads, but for processes you
should look at #s for
see srv(3)
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/3/srv
On 5 November 2010 10:29, Kirill A. Shutemov kir...@shutemov.name wrote:
One of the ugliest interface in Unix is passing a file descriptor between
processes [1]. Does Plan9 provide any mechanism for it?
[1]
Quite right:
http://code.google.com/p/inferno-os/source/browse/#hg/appl/cmd/mash
Although, no doubt brucee has a new, improved version not fit for mere
mortals to gaze upon.
-eric
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:
no. it was the last thing i
http://code.google.com/p/inferno-os/source/browse/#hg/appl/cmd/mash
that one is indeed fairly old, much as we received it, except for
changes to fit any changes in the environment, but
http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/man/1/mash.html
and
Hi,
In the paper 'Semaphores in Plan 9' by Sape and Russ Cox, there was this
note:
The performance of the semaphore-based lock implementation is sometimes
much better and never noticeably worse than the spin locks. We will replace
the spin lock implementation in the Plan 9 distribution soon.
As
I just did a pull and a recompile.
The kernel boots to the point where it wants to get the root. I tell it the
same root server I used before the rebuild, and the prompt comes back again
asking for the root.
Any thoughts on where I should look?
usb/hub... root is from (tcp)[tcp]: 192.168.1.250
OOPS dumb mistake on my part... I should have just pressed enter there.
I really ought to script that.
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
I just did a pull and a recompile.
The kernel boots to the point where it wants to get the root. I tell it
the same
On Friday 05 of November 2010 14:31:01 Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
Quite right:
http://code.google.com/p/inferno-os/source/browse/#hg/appl/cmd/mash
Although, no doubt brucee has a new, improved version not fit for mere
mortals to gaze upon.
A honest question: what is the rationale for
A honest question: what is the rationale for merging functionality of make and
shell into one?
Use your imagination
Nick
Google just announced a code-in. Is Plan9 participating?
EBo --
On Friday 05 of November 2010 18:18:44 Nick LaForge wrote:
A honest question: what is the rationale for merging functionality of
make and shell into one?
Use your imagination
Tried, failed.
To me, make is a tool for generating an acyclic, directed graph of
dependencies between build
To me, make is a tool for generating an acyclic, directed graph of
dependencies between build steps from some explicit and some wildcard rules
-- and then traversing it in a sensible order. How's that for daily use shell?
your focus is too narrowed on building. a sequence of commands piping
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:32 AM, dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.comwrote:
On Friday 05 of November 2010 18:18:44 Nick LaForge wrote:
A honest question: what is the rationale for merging functionality of
make and shell into one?
Use your imagination
Tried, failed.
To me, make
On Friday 05 of November 2010 18:39:14 andrey mirtchovski wrote:
To me, make is a tool for generating an acyclic, directed graph of
dependencies between build steps from some explicit and some wildcard
rules -- and then traversing it in a sensible order. How's that for
daily use shell?
-- and then traversing it in a sensible order. How's that for daily use
shell?
Why is a shell that can generate acyclic digraphs of dependencies bad?
Someone clearly found a use for it at some point or it wouldn't have been
done.
it is silly bloat if it's not an essential part of the
On 5 November 2010 18:14, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote:
-- and then traversing it in a sensible order. How's that for daily use
shell?
Why is a shell that can generate acyclic digraphs of dependencies bad?
Someone clearly found a use for it at some point or it wouldn't
('', '', '||', if, '|', 'and '`{}') with something general
enough to replace mk, you'd be on to something.
i did a mash-inspired version of mk as an inferno shell module once.
it required no new syntax (although it could be confused by
files named :...)
what you did was very cool, but
Code-in? Could you elaborate?
On Nov 5, 2010 1:22 PM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote:
Google just announced a code-in. Is Plan9 participating?
EBo --
'Summer of code' for high school students?
Frankly, looking at its phrasing, it just looks like open-outsourcing
on a whole new level.
Nick
On 11/5/10, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
Code-in? Could you elaborate?
On Nov 5, 2010 1:22 PM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote:
Google just
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:07 PM, dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 05 of November 2010 14:31:01 Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
Quite right:
http://code.google.com/p/inferno-os/source/browse/#hg/appl/cmd/mash
Although, no doubt brucee has a new, improved version not fit
On Fri Nov 5 16:06:59 EDT 2010, nicklafo...@gmail.com wrote:
'Summer of code' for high school students?
Frankly, looking at its phrasing, it just looks like open-outsourcing
on a whole new level.
i don't think that's accurate. the tasks need to
be small enough and easy enough for a 12-17
i don't think that's accurate. the tasks need to
be small enough and easy enough for a 12-17 year old
student to resonably get one done in a week. it would be
much easier to just do these tasks oneself than to even
write up the task, let alone walk a student through the
problem-solving
i wish #s had a directory structure and enforced group permissions.
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:21 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
Currently, if your processes have a common parent, you can use rfork; if
not, you must resort to #s. '#s' is a pretty unfortunate interface,
though...
Code-in? Could you elaborate?
http://code.google.com/gci
EBo --
i don't think that's accurate. the tasks need to
be small enough and easy enough for a 12-17 year old
student to resonably get one done in a week. it would be
much easier to just do these tasks oneself than to even
write up the task, let alone walk a student through the
problem-solving
i can answer that one easily. that's why it's called mash rather than
random marketting name. the intention was to replace plan9 rc with a
shell that was maintainable and had loadable modules. i wrote it in
limbo to show it works, damned well. the first requirement was a make
loadable. it's not
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