Re: [9fans] MailRoute: Past Due Invoice for 9fans.net

2019-08-09 Thread Lucio De Re
On 8/9/19, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > Thank you for everything that goes into 9fans' upkeep. > Let me add my own gratitude to Skip's. Not just to Russ, who clearly does all the weight-lifting here, but everyone else that is keeping 9fans and thus everything-9 alive. Honestly, I can't imagine what

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 C compiler for Xtensa CPUs

2019-08-09 Thread Bakul Shah
esp32 doesn’t have an mmu, right? > On Jul 26, 2019, at 03:30, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > I was thinking of doing that since I've got an ESP-32 for some reason > >> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 7:38 AM Cyber Fonic wrote: >> I was reading the post Why Didn't Plan 9 Succeed on Hacker News. >> >>

Re: [9fans] MailRoute: Past Due Invoice for 9fans.net

2019-08-09 Thread Russ Cox
[-mailroute] Sorry about the spam to 9fans everyone. Not sure what made them think to add 9fans to try to contact me, and I didn't notice it was CC'ed at first. Running the list through mailroute has been really great for spam reduction. I'd still really love to move 9fans itself to a proper

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 C compiler for Xtensa CPUs

2019-08-09 Thread Charles Forsyth
The ESP32 has got several MMUs. The characteristics are different depending on the part that a given MMU accesses (flash, ROM, SRAM, external memory). Some things are accessed using Memory Protection Units instead, which control access by Process ID, but don't do mapping. Others including some of

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 C compiler for Xtensa CPUs

2019-08-09 Thread Charles Forsyth
The device I've got is ESP32-WROOM-32. None of the boards I've seen that use it bother with external memory, so memory is limited, especially the way it's partitioned. On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:50 PM Charles Forsyth wrote: > The ESP32 has got several MMUs. The characteristics are different >

Re: [9fans] MailRoute: Past Due Invoice for 9fans.net

2019-08-09 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
that was a poor attempt at humor. i apologize. On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 7:59 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > Anti-Spam-as-a-Service or ASaaS > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 2:03 PM Russ Cox wrote: > >> Hi Christiane, >> >> I received your voicemail and just updated my credit card information >> at

Re: [9fans] MailRoute: Past Due Invoice for 9fans.net

2019-08-09 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
TL;DR: hosted lists aren’t really a thing anymore and anyone doing it is unlikely to do a good job at it. I used to work for an email service / software provider and recently asked some contacts there about this (hosted lists) sort of thing. It's really not so much that it's not a cool thing

Re: [9fans] MailRoute: Past Due Invoice for 9fans.net

2019-08-09 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Hi Russ, May I ask what the monthly cost of mailroute-ing 9fans is? I can't decipher the pricing from their site. Thanks, -Skip

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 C compiler for Xtensa CPUs

2019-08-09 Thread Bakul Shah
On Aug 9, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > Since the resources are small if not tiny, a little systems analysis and > design is probably needed, but it looks like a bit of fun, until the > inevitable moment of "why am I here?". > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 4:50 PM Charles Forsyth

Re: [9fans] MailRoute: Past Due Invoice for 9fans.net

2019-08-09 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Thank you for everything that goes into 9fans' upkeep. On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:20 PM Russ Cox wrote: > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 2:02 PM Skip Tavakkolian > wrote: > > May I ask what the monthly cost of mailroute-ing 9fans is? I can't > decipher the pricing from their site. > > Nothing but good

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 C compiler for Xtensa CPUs

2019-08-09 Thread Shane Morris
Wireless NinePea perhaps? https://github.com/echoline/NinePea On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 7:36 AM Charles Forsyth wrote: > Since the resources are small if not tiny, a little systems analysis and > design is probably needed, but it looks like a bit of fun, until the > inevitable moment of "why am

Re: [9fans] MailRoute: Past Due Invoice for 9fans.net

2019-08-09 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 03:19:49PM -0400, Russ Cox wrote: > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 2:02 PM Skip Tavakkolian > wrote: > > May I ask what the monthly cost of mailroute-ing 9fans is? I can't > > decipher the pricing from their site. > > Nothing but good things to say about Mailroute. > > They're

Re: [9fans] MailRoute: Past Due Invoice for 9fans.net

2019-08-09 Thread Russ Cox
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 2:02 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > May I ask what the monthly cost of mailroute-ing 9fans is? I can't decipher > the pricing from their site. Nothing but good things to say about Mailroute. They're mostly aimed at businesses with individual users. When I contacted them

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 C compiler for Xtensa CPUs

2019-08-09 Thread Charles Forsyth
Since the resources are small if not tiny, a little systems analysis and design is probably needed, but it looks like a bit of fun, until the inevitable moment of "why am I here?". On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 4:50 PM Charles Forsyth wrote: > The device I've got is ESP32-WROOM-32. None of the boards

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 C compiler for Xtensa CPUs

2019-08-09 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
I'm not sure if the effort would be worth it; but if you add support for esp32, I think it would be better for the os to be something like the one you had in kencc for AVR (*) or possibly Russ' libtask, rather than Plan 9. Staying with FreeRTOS would need removal of GCC specific things from OS and