Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020

2019-10-24 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
ha! :)

frontier accomodations might be a bit rough for the refined 9fans

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 9:30 PM Kurt H Maier  wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 09:21:04PM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> > Hi Erik! Vashon might be ok depending on time of year due to limited
> > lodging options. I plan to check the O Space for the workshop. lodging
> will
> > be challenging unless we take over campgrounds and set up yurts :)
> 
> AYH could comfortably lodge every active Plan 9 user on earth and has
> decent space for meetings.
> 
> khm

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Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020

2019-10-24 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 09:21:04PM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> Hi Erik! Vashon might be ok depending on time of year due to limited
> lodging options. I plan to check the O Space for the workshop. lodging will
> be challenging unless we take over campgrounds and set up yurts :)

AYH could comfortably lodge every active Plan 9 user on earth and has
decent space for meetings.

khm

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Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020

2019-10-24 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Hi Erik! Vashon might be ok depending on time of year due to limited
lodging options. I plan to check the O Space for the workshop. lodging will
be challenging unless we take over campgrounds and set up yurts :)

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019, 1:48 PM erik quanstrom  wrote:

> vashon has a high density of fans.  :-). (hi, skip). seriously, an iwp9
> anywhere would be great.  bonus points for good weather.
>
> - erik
>
> On Oct 24, 2019 02:45, Jonas Amoson  wrote:
>
> A new IWP9 would be great, and I’d be happy to help out in the preparation
> if needed and wanted, e.g. reading submissions, helping with troff
> formatting of papers or such (although no expert really).
> Regarding location, I’d try to attend anywhere suggested. The more
> important here is that some people are taking the initiative. Although
> anywhere Europe would be much closer to where I am, I think that the place
> might be more of an issue if it would happen more frequently than every
> five year :-)
>
> Jonas
>
> <-Ursprungligt Meddelande->
> *From: Iruat� Souza [iru.mu...@gmail.com ]*
> Sent: 23/10/2019 10:36:41 AM
> To: 9fans@9fans.net
> Subject: Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020
>
> ?I suggest we do it somewhere in Europe. I have the impression most
> active users are here.
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 8:58 AM Steve Simon  wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > i love the idea, what concerns me is the cost of a flight from the UK to
> Michigan.
> >
> > we shall see what tickets i can find.
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> >
> > > On 23 Oct 2019, at 6:49 am, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
> > >
> > > ?
> > >>
> > >> Jeff (jas) and I have been chatting about organizing a "Plan 9 :
> 2020"
> > >> workshop. We're trying to gauge everyone's interest, and to solicit
> agenda
> > >> items, venue suggestions, and hopefully volunteers to help organize
> it.
> > >
> > > I'd be interested in attending, and I don't mind taking some time to
> > > help organize.
> > >
> > >> If you have a different suggestion, or are willing to offer a venue,
> please
> > >> comment.
> > >
> > > Some of us have also been talking about planning an OpenBSD-style
> > > hackathon. (OpenBSD hackathons: Get developers in a room, and write
> > > code for a week, exchanging ideas, trying to get commits into base and
> > > ports. Beer is usually involved.)
> > >
> > > We'd discussed putting together something like that for Plan 9 in the
> > > first half of 2020. Anyone hacking on Plan 9 related code would be
> > > welcome.
> > >
> > > I don't know if this is a different suggestion so much as a different
> > > event. Experience implies that merging the two together may be a bit
> > > too much in one shot.
> > >
> > > Expect a post about that when we start sorting out the details.
> > >
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Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020

2019-10-24 Thread erik quanstrom
vashon has a high density of fans.  :-). (hi, skip). seriously, an iwp9 anywhere would be great.  bonus points for good weather.- erikOn Oct 24, 2019 02:45, Jonas Amoson  wrote:A new IWP9 would be great, and I’d be happy to help out in the preparation if needed and wanted, e.g. reading submissions, helping with troff formatting of papers or such (although no expert really).Regarding location, I’d try to attend anywhere suggested. The more important here is that some people are taking the initiative. Although anywhere Europe would be much closer to where I am, I think that the place might be more of an issue if it would happen more frequently than every five year :-)Jonas
<-Ursprungligt Meddelande->  From: Iruat� Souza [iru.mu...@gmail.com]
Sent: 23/10/2019 10:36:41 AM
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020 
?I suggest we do it somewhere in Europe. I have the impression most

active users are here.

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 8:58 AM Steve Simon  wrote:

>

> hi,

>

> i love the idea, what concerns me is the cost of a flight from the UK to Michigan.

>

> we shall see what tickets i can find.

>

> -Steve

>

>

> > On 23 Oct 2019, at 6:49 am, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:

> >

> > ?

> >>

> >> Jeff (jas) and I have been chatting about organizing a "Plan 9 : 2020"

> >> workshop.  We're trying to gauge everyone's interest, and to solicit agenda

> >> items, venue suggestions, and hopefully volunteers to help organize it.

> >

> > I'd be interested in attending, and I don't mind taking some time to

> > help organize.

> >

> >> If you have a different suggestion, or are willing to offer a venue, please

> >> comment.

> >

> > Some of us have also been talking about planning an OpenBSD-style

> > hackathon.  (OpenBSD hackathons: Get developers in a room, and write

> > code for a week, exchanging ideas, trying to get commits into base and

> > ports.  Beer is usually involved.)

> >

> > We'd discussed putting together something like that for Plan 9 in the

> > first half of 2020. Anyone hacking on Plan 9 related code would be

> > welcome.

> >

> > I don't know if this is a different suggestion so much as a different

> > event.  Experience implies that merging the two together may be a bit

> > too much in one shot.

> >

> > Expect a post about that when we start sorting out the details.

> >

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Re: [9fans] moving 9fans to new server, but still 9fans@9fans.net

2019-10-24 Thread vp
>> Does 9fans-requ...@9fans.net still work for subscription?
>
> It does not; not at the moment.

I got a note stating this will stay true indefinitely.

In Topicbox' defense their marketing line is "Group email for teams",
so saying it is not a very good mailing list package wouldn't be fair.

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Re: [9fans] moving 9fans to new server, but still 9fans@9fans.net

2019-10-24 Thread Anthony Sorace
Archived-At is from RFC 5064.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5064

The weird "=?UTF-8?B?" is an "Encoded Word", per RFC 2047. Email headers are 
defined to be 7-bit ASCII (yes, still); 2047 provides a way to encode other 
characters in email headers. Mind you, it looks like all the actual Archived-At 
links Topicbox would fit in 7-bit ASCII anyway and it'd be nice if they 
reserved the Encoded Word for when they needed it, but whatever; email is a 
mess and this is nice to have.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2047

Anthony

> On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:45 , Calvin Morrison  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, at 8:03 AM, hiro wrote:
>> this is the case on any other mailing lists or only a topicbox-internal
>> standard...
> 
> Quite right. RFC2369 describes most of the standard headers you'll be used 
> to. However, I'm not aware of a permalink to web archives for each individual 
> post.
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2369
> 
> Cheers,
> Calvin

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Re: [9fans] moving 9fans to new server, but still 9fans@9fans.net

2019-10-24 Thread vp
> Does 9fans-requ...@9fans.net still work for subscription?

It does not; not at the moment.

I complained about it and the issue has been brought to Topicbox
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Re: [9fans] moving 9fans to new server, but still 9fans@9fans.net

2019-10-24 Thread Fazlul Shahriar
Does 9fans-requ...@9fans.net still work for subscription? Can someone
update https://9p.io/wiki/plan9/mailing_lists/ since that's the first
result of a web search.

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> As you may know from the thread back in August, we've been running 9fans
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> front.
>
> I've been working with Calvin Morrison of Fastmail on moving 9fans over to
> Fastmail's hosted mailing list service, Topicbox.
>
> The list address remains 9fans@9fans.net.
> Searchable archives will be hosted at 9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans.
>
> I think everything is ready to cut over, and I plan to try after sending
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>
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>
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Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020

2019-10-24 Thread Jonas Amoson
A new IWP9 would be great, and I'd be happy to help out in the
preparation if needed and wanted, e.g. reading submissions, helping
with troff formatting of papers or such (although no expert really).
Regarding location, I'd try to attend anywhere suggested. The more
important here is that some people are taking the initiative. Although
anywhere Europe would be much closer to where I am, I think that the
place might be more of an issue if it would happen more frequently than
every five year :-)

Jonas

<-Ursprungligt Meddelande->

From: Iruat? Souza [iru.mu...@gmail.com]
Sent: 23/10/2019 10:36:41 AM
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 :
2020 

?I suggest we do it somewhere in Europe. I have the impression most 
active users are here. 

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 8:58 AM Steve Simon  wrote: 
> 
> hi, 
> 
> i love the idea, what concerns me is the cost of a flight from the UK
to Michigan. 
> 
> we shall see what tickets i can find. 
> 
> -Steve 
> 
> 
> > On 23 Oct 2019, at 6:49 am, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: 
> > 
> > ? 
> >> 
> >> Jeff (jas) and I have been chatting about organizing a "Plan 9 :
2020" 
> >> workshop. We're trying to gauge everyone's interest, and to
solicit agenda 
> >> items, venue suggestions, and hopefully volunteers to help
organize it. 
> > 
> > I'd be interested in attending, and I don't mind taking some time
to 
> > help organize. 
> > 
> >> If you have a different suggestion, or are willing to offer a
venue, please 
> >> comment. 
> > 
> > Some of us have also been talking about planning an OpenBSD-style 
> > hackathon. (OpenBSD hackathons: Get developers in a room, and write 
> > code for a week, exchanging ideas, trying to get commits into base
and 
> > ports. Beer is usually involved.) 
> > 
> > We'd discussed putting together something like that for Plan 9 in
the 
> > first half of 2020. Anyone hacking on Plan 9 related code would be 
> > welcome. 
> > 
> > I don't know if this is a different suggestion so much as a
different 
> > event. Experience implies that merging the two together may be a
bit 
> > too much in one shot. 
> > 
> > Expect a post about that when we start sorting out the details. 
> > 

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