On Mon Aug 18 17:18:07 EDT 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to track down a copy of the Nextstation kernel sources, but not
having much luck.
Geoff Collyer informed me that Steve Jobs has personally said no to
distribution of the sources
except under the 2nd Edition license, and
Seeking an alternative to vi and emacs, I've been giving Acme a try (acme-sac,
actually). After reading the articles and man pages and playing with it for a
few days, I'll admit I don't see how Acme could be even remotely competitive
with vim/emacs for editing code.
Searching the 9fans
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Wendell xe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seeking an alternative to vi and emacs, I've been giving Acme a try
(acme-sac, actually). After reading the articles and man pages and playing
with it for a few days, I'll admit I don't see how Acme could be even
remotely
this setup reminds me of the story about the priest who, playing golf
against the orders of his superiors on sunday morning, hits a hole in one.
ouch.
supposing you're successful in getting a licence and you do great things
with the next port. who are you going to tell?
- erik
Does the
Going by your list, I would conclude your code is something in the
vein of Java plus web stuff, maybe even J2EE, or maybe the scourge of
the editing world, Python.
If that's the case and you have to deal with other people's code, Acme
is probably not going to help you very much. In fact Acme will
supposing you're successful in getting a licence and you do great things
with the next port. who are you going to tell?
- erik
Does the license prevent updating the port as well??
didn't you already determine that the next port is unobtainable
without a 2d edition license? doesn't that
On Aug 19, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Wendell xe wrote:
01. Toggle on/off line wrapping
02. Toggle on/off EOL character display
03. Display line numbers
04. Display ruler
05. Rectangluar block selection
06. Search and replace with confirmation at each item
07. Automatic insertion of spaces for tabs
08.
For me, that's a crucial thing. Keeps my code in check purely through
the text of it.
If I understand what you are saying I find this is really interesting.
I many of the prople I work with use syntax highlighting editors and I
often find their code difficult to read (I use sam).
In the way
11. Bookmarks
Typically handled by 'guide' files. I.e. a file, open in an acme window,
full of B3-able search strings. E.g.:
foo.c:/^main
Also useful with B2-able command strings:
grep -n 'where_is_this_function_called_from\(' *.c
slay program | rc
--lyndon
Don't force it, use a
Plan 9 and the related software just
isn't for someone who wants to Get Their Job Done (tm).
Sorry, I have to bite.
Its because I want to Get my job done™ that I use plan9.
-Steve
It's a research
platform for those who want to tell other people what they should do and
how they should do it and why any other way would be sacrilege.
thanks for setting me straight. for some reason, i thought my company had
shipped
several thousand units based on plan 9. i don't know
You might give Sam a try. I'm still working my way up to Acme too, but Sam has
an edge over vi for me... ...Might be nice if there was an option to open a
document in a default window though, but if it were a big enough concern, I've
got the source and could make the change... :)
-Ben
Ms. Discordia, if you don't like it here why do you stay?
Just lurking, I overheard the hackers say.
--On Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:12 PM -0600 andrey mirtchovski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ms. Discordia, if you don't like it here why do you stay?
No, you justify your salary, dear Sir. I honestly respect you for having
written the nemo book--you're nemo after all. That, however, won't change
my stance on Plan 9 and the 9people. You have nothing else but
researching OS's and submitting papers. That justifies your 9life.
Others, like me,
Wrong on so many levels.
Go read the responses 9people gave the original poster. You'll see why it's
_right_ on so many levels.
Plan 9 obeys the UNIX way: tools that make jobs simpler.
A UNIX better than UNIX? I thought that was just the thing 9people claimed
to be past. Didn't I hear
On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Eris Discordia wrote:
Plan 9 obeys the UNIX way: tools that make jobs simpler.
A UNIX better than UNIX? I thought that was just the thing 9people
claimed to be past. Didn't I hear someone saying, Plan 9 is not
UNIX? Ahem... GNU's Not UNIX, too, nah?
No,
thanks for setting me straight. for some reason, i thought my company
had shipped several thousand units based on plan 9. i don't know what
would have given me that idea.
Somebody would make a bad choice anyway. Microsoft shipped thousands of
copies of Microsoft Bob before they learnt about
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Eris Discordia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wrong on so many levels.
Go read the responses 9people gave the original poster. You'll see why it's
_right_ on so many levels.
Plan 9 obeys the UNIX way: tools that make jobs simpler.
A UNIX better than UNIX? I
take it easy on the porn and get some real sex, eris. you're way too
angry.
Sir, yessir! The Marines don't do Japanese, sir!
--On Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:31 PM -0300 Iruata Souza
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Eris Discordia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wrong on
eris, I agree, thanks.
iru
// Bite if you please. Hook, line, and sinker ;-)
Oh, I'm waiting for a phone call before bed. What the hell.
My job has nothing to do with your 1-3. I agree with Steve exactly: I
use Plan 9 because it allows me to get my job done easier. My job
includes some programming, some document writing,
Ms. Discordia, if you don't like it here why do you stay?
therapy?
Ms. Discordia, if you don't like it here why do you stay?
therapy?
here is the scary.devil.monastery of old systems programmers, after all. :)
No, you justify your salary, dear Sir. I honestly respect you for having
written the nemo book--you're nemo after all. That, however, won't change
my stance on Plan 9 and the 9people.
as i suspected, you're here for therapy.
You have nothing else but researching OS's and submitting
When in doubt say something's shitty and try somother OS. You'll be back.
Others have tried and failed with your strategy.
brucee
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Skip Tavakkolian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, you justify your salary, dear Sir. I honestly respect you for having
written the
Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia.
Geoff! Why not let Eris read your paper on Why Plan 9 Matters?
Pietro why don't you shut up? You annoy my dog.
brucee
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geoff! Why not let Eris read your paper on Why Plan 9 Matters?
Just a few other bits of relevance to the original topic:
On Aug 19, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Wendell xe wrote:
07. Automatic insertion of spaces for tabs
style(6) says not to convert tabs to spaces.
11. Bookmarks
If you know what text the bookmark will point to, make a comment on
the line
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Eris Discordia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Simon's trademark character, I presume, was generated by [Alt]+0153
Wow. Does memorising codepoints fall under your job description aswell?
$ curl gopher://tokyo.ac.jp/a/b/r.tokyo.jpg
$ ifconfig cellnetif num 555
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