Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-03 Thread Andrew Simmons
I don't want to imply that Ron is quite such an old fart as me, but somehow I don't get the impression that he was a kid in 1981, when "Time Bandits" came out. Ron, if you could give some clue as to when you saw the movie, I'm pretty sure that the group could mount a co-ordinated effort to identify

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-03 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish I could remember. It had the usual guys in silvery suits. They > walk through a frame and are back in time. Key point was, at the end, > that they ended up escaping but for reasons unknown, walking back > through the frame -- bad idea. Time bandit

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-03 Thread michael block
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 07:16, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A thought ... > > Shared libraries do 2 possibly useful things: > 1) save space > 2) stop you having to re-link when a new library is released. i can see how relinks are painful with gnu-style build systems where you need to run ./configu

Re: [9fans] plan9port lacks exportfs server

2008-11-03 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
[I believe we should go off-line if you're interested in continuing this discussion, since it has very little to do with plan9port at this point. I'll reply to the portion that has relevance on the list here, and will reply to the rest of your email privately] On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 01:15 +0100, En

Re: [9fans] plan9port lacks exportfs server

2008-11-03 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 01:15 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > >Besides the fact that I'm not making binary packages at all, > > >splitted / small sources make packaging a lot easier. > > > > So let me get this straight: you're trying to s

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-03 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
A thought ... Shared libraries do 2 possibly useful things: 1) save space 2) stop you having to re-link when a new library is released. Now 2) doesn't really happen anyway, due to .so versioning hell, so we're left with 1) ... I can run Plan 9 quite nicely in 128 MB of RAM. In the same amount

Re: [9fans] Quick question on stopping a process that waits for IO

2008-11-03 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys, > > when somebody tries to stop a process that is waiting for the IO the process > doesn't get transferred to a Stopped state immediately but only when > the scheduler sees it for the first time. This leads to a pro

Re: [9fans] Quick question on stopping a process that waits for IO

2008-11-03 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 21:55 -0800, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Is there any way I can poke the target process so that it gets attention > from the scheduler an can be put in a Stopped state? I know, I know we all don't like those guys who talk to themselves on mailing lists replying to their own em

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> in particular, i'd like to be able to use factotum to hold my keys. > > btw, i recently added a 2k rsa key for ssh to my secstore. now > my factotum (in 9vx on OS X) periodically crashes. when it > happens, it's always after i ssh using the key. anyone seen > anything similar, or alternately hav

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-03 Thread a
in particular, i'd like to be able to use factotum to hold my keys. btw, i recently added a 2k rsa key for ssh to my secstore. now my factotum (in 9vx on OS X) periodically crashes. when it happens, it's always after i ssh using the key. anyone seen anything similar, or alternately have success wi

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There is a TODO page on the wiki which might give you some ideas. >> >> The two pieces of unfinished business that spring to my mind >> are the Centrino driver and the ssh V2 client, both started by >> Russ. > > contrib/i

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-03 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a TODO page on the wiki which might give you some ideas. > > The two pieces of unfinished business that spring to my mind > are the Centrino driver and the ssh V2 client, both started by > Russ. contrib/install fgb/

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-03 Thread Steve Simon
There is a TODO page on the wiki which might give you some ideas. The two pieces of unfinished business that spring to my mind are the Centrino driver and the ssh V2 client, both started by Russ. These have the advantage of being started by a very talented programmer so you could learn from the e

Re: [9fans] Questions on notes

2008-11-03 Thread Brian L. Stuart
> > > Frankly, I was trying to see whether an external process reading > > > on somebody else's /proc/n/note would make any sense. One thing > > > that I wanted to implement was a "note thief" process that would > > > constantly read on a target's /proc/n/note and handle the notes > > > externally

Re: [9fans] Questions on notes

2008-11-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> > Frankly, I was trying to see whether an external process reading > > on somebody else's /proc/n/note would make any sense. One thing > > that I wanted to implement was a "note thief" process that would > > constantly read on a target's /proc/n/note and handle the notes > > externally using a di

Re: [9fans] Questions on notes

2008-11-03 Thread dave . l
Frankly, I was trying to see whether an external process reading on somebody else's /proc/n/note would make any sense. One thing that I wanted to implement was a "note thief" process that would constantly read on a target's /proc/n/note and handle the notes externally using a different kind of IPC

Re: [9fans] Questions on notes

2008-11-03 Thread Brian L. Stuart
> Frankly, I was trying to see whether an external process reading > on somebody else's /proc/n/note would make any sense. One thing > that I wanted to implement was a "note thief" process that would > constantly read on a target's /proc/n/note and handle the notes > externally using a different ki

Re: [9fans] Questions on notes

2008-11-03 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 08:03 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: > > what is the point of reading /proc/n/ note for anything but a > > stopped/borken process? > > or a process already in a note handler? Could you elaborate, please? Do you mean that if the process enters its note handler, then the sure fi

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-03 Thread Kernel Panic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A thought ... Shared libraries do 2 possibly useful things: 1) save space 2) stop you having to re-link when a new library is released. Now 2) doesn't really happen anyway, due to .so versioning hell, so we're left with 1) ... I know it's kind-of hacky and unstructured

Re: [9fans] punched cards live

2008-11-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> It's the ACPI Secure Computing Initiative: fixed input format == no > buffer overflow vulnerabilities. Long live Herman Hollerith! > if bios wants to own the os, using buffer overflow in acpi seems like more effort than necessary. - erik

Re: [9fans] punched cards live

2008-11-03 Thread John DeGood
It's the ACPI Secure Computing Initiative: fixed input format == no buffer overflow vulnerabilities. Long live Herman Hollerith! ron minnich wrote: > This courtesy of the ACPI spec: ""RSD PTR " (Notice that this > signature must contain a trailing > blank character.)" > > So where do we get the

Re: [9fans] punched cards live

2008-11-03 Thread Brantley Coile
As the subject says, punched cards. Except it was a '40'X on the 360. On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:06 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: This courtesy of the ACPI spec: ""RSD PTR " (Notice that this signature must contain a trailing blank character.)" So where do we get the guys who design this stuff? Can we

Re: [9fans] Questions on notes

2008-11-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> I've been experimenting with how Plan 9 handles notes for processes and > I must confess that I'm now confused and in need your help. > > First of all, the proc(3) man page says that "A read [from /proc/n/ > note] of at least ERRLEN > characters will retrieve the oldest note posted to the proce

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-03 Thread dave . l
A thought ... Shared libraries do 2 possibly useful things: 1) save space 2) stop you having to re-link when a new library is released. Now 2) doesn't really happen anyway, due to .so versioning hell, so we're left with 1) ... I know it's kind-of hacky and unstructured (how do you know the vent

Re: [9fans] exporting namespace

2008-11-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> m trying to export a namespace from my file server (that is a > namespace's bootes) to my terminal (logging as a client), i tried to > do: > servname% exportfs -a -r /tmp (from file server) > but i have this error: > exportfs: auth_proxy: auth_proxy write fd: inappropriate use of fd > before doi

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> hi all, > > I want to port some program or driver to plan9 which has not been > ported yet and is of high priority. > Please suggest me ! how about ati driver with decent hw acceleration? the documents can be found on this page http://developer.amd.com/documentation/guides/Pages/default.aspx

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-03 Thread Yoshi Rokuko
> hi all, > > I want to port some program or driver to plan9 which has not been > ported yet and is of high priority. > Please suggest me ! > > Thanks > how about a device driver for Atheros-based Wireless LAN devices like madwifi http://madwifi.org ;-) y0shi

Re: [9fans] punched cards live

2008-11-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> This courtesy of the ACPI spec: ""RSD PTR " (Notice that this > signature must contain a trailing > blank character.)" > > So where do we get the guys who design this stuff? Can we send them > back? Or put them in an infinite loop in a time machine (oh wait see > the subject). i think it's a tra

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-03 Thread Robert Raschke
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Siddharth Prakash Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to port some program or driver to plan9 which has not been > ported yet and is of high priority. > Please suggest me ! I think support for more wireless network cards was mentioned in the past. Or perhaps

Re: [9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-03 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
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[9fans] exporting namespace

2008-11-03 Thread lupin636
Hi All, I'm trying to export a namespace from my file server (that is a namespace's bootes) to my terminal (logging as a client), i tried to do: servname% exportfs -a -r /tmp (from file server) but i have this error: exportfs: auth_proxy: auth_proxy write fd: inappropriate use of fd before doing t

[9fans] I want to port some program or driver

2008-11-03 Thread Siddharth Prakash Singh
hi all, I want to port some program or driver to plan9 which has not been ported yet and is of high priority. Please suggest me ! Thanks