Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Akshat Kumar
> For Lisp variants ask Alex Shinn(alexsh...@gmail.com), he's got an > interesting scheme implementation mostly working. It's a summer of > code project this year. See also my post: http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/news/2009/07/19/0/ and the included link to setting it up on Plan 9. Best, ak

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> Suggestions (model, company, etc.) welcome. > Although, this thing can do photoscanning, copying, > and faxing. I make great use of the former two, > along with printing (of course). this isn't a recommendation. i don't have one. but i was thinking about getting something along the lines of thi

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread Akshat Kumar
gs(1) compiled fine with ijs driver - I hope it doesn't need to be updated as well. Thanks for the information, Russ. I found Prof. Okamoto's page on HPIJS 1.5 port: http://basalt.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp/plan9/s54.html (binaries linked). I'll look into the degree of changes made for the port. If it'

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> I thought IJS was also used to turn a raster into PCL, since IIRC some > non-business-class HP printers come with a stripped-down PCL 5e or > some such. > > I'm probably wrong again, though. I try to not think about the HP PDLs > too much. Probably it's not IJS I'm thinking of and some other cru

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:37 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: >> IJS is probably it; that's the PCL driver for the home-office class printers. > > IJS is not PCL. > > IJS is a custom protocol that is spoken between a bitmap-producing > program like Ghostscrip

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread Russ Cox
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:37 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: > IJS is probably it; that's the PCL driver for the home-office class printers. IJS is not PCL. IJS is a custom protocol that is spoken between a bitmap-producing program like Ghostscript and a bitmap-printing program like /usr/bin/hpijs http://s

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread J.R. Mauro
IJS is probably it; that's the PCL driver for the home-office class printers. Akshat: PCL is proprietary but not closed; you can find references to it online. I would highly recommend never looking at PCL since it will make your eyes bleed. Hopefully the Ghostscript drivers will work for you. On

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> Personally I can't hear over 9119 hz (audio), but I might want to record > 1s of 192Khz (samples I presume) and stretch them by 100x to 9600 hz > (audio) and have a (possibly) interesting time listening to the results > without interpolating. perfect customer for the Phone Company! ☺ - erik

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Noah Evans
For Lisp variants ask Alex Shinn(alexsh...@gmail.com), he's got an interesting scheme implementation mostly working. It's a summer of code project this year. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: > >> So, I was browsing around the

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread Bakul Shah
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 05:24:01 +0800 sqweek wrote: > On 12/08/2009, Tim Newsham wrote: > > Draw the line at what the hardware can be told to decode > > with a flip of a register? The driver interface can easily > > accomodate arbitrary encoding names (see inferno's driver > > for an example). >

Re: [9fans] Lua on Plan9

2009-08-14 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Josh Wood wrote: > >> Just fetched the tarball for lua-5.1.4, changed the CC=gcc to CC=cc >> and tried "make posix". After lots of complaining about the -O2 >> option, I see: >> >> /usr/john/lua-5.1.4/src/liolib.c:178[stdin:2686] incompatible types: >> "IND STRUCT _

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
an old interview with some relevance http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/3.08/thompson.html

Re: [9fans] Lua on Plan9

2009-08-14 Thread Josh Wood
Just fetched the tarball for lua-5.1.4, changed the CC=gcc to CC=cc and tried "make posix". After lots of complaining about the -O2 option, I see: /usr/john/lua-5.1.4/src/liolib.c:178[stdin:2686] incompatible types: "IND STRUCT _1_" and "INT" for op "AS" I'm going to poke around and look into

Re: [9fans] Lua on Plan9

2009-08-14 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:27 +0100, Robert Raschke wrote: > >> Last time I tried, the standard Lua compiled out of the box under the >> APE. Just fetched the tarball for lua-5.1.4, changed the CC=gcc to CC=cc and tried "make posix". Aft

Re: [9fans] Lua on Plan9

2009-08-14 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> What do you use it for? Any kind of fun projects? My idea is to try > and see whether Plan9+Lua would be a more useful combination for > building Web service environment than werc. > > Thanks, > Roman. Kenji has written a webdav server for pegasus (Kenji's httpd branch) using lua.

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua > on Plan9? > Roman. Kenji has written a webdav server for pegasus (Kenji's httpd branch) using lua.

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread sqweek
On 12/08/2009, Tim Newsham wrote: > Draw the line at what the hardware can be told to decode > with a flip of a register? The driver interface can easily > accomodate arbitrary encoding names (see inferno's driver > for an example). One thing I haven't seen mentioned (perhaps because I misunder

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread James Tomaschke
Charles Forsyth wrote: > sorry, i did realise. i'm afraid i just couldn't resist slightly > misquoting Flanders and Swann's `Song of Reproduction' (High Fidelity). > http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Flanders-Swann-Georges-Brassens/dp/B06T4S/ref=pd_sim_b_1 Yes, marketing in general feeds on "more

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread Tim Newsham
By this logic, I need to have my application to convert CDROM-XA ADPCM audio from a device into PCM just to talk to an interface, which in turn must convert it back into ADPCM to play it back because the DMA transfers to the audio hardware buffer require ADPCM. the problem with supporting everyt

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-14 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 09:42 +0100, roger peppe wrote: > 2009/8/13 Roman Shaposhnik : > > Am I totally missing something or hasn't been the binary RPC > > of that style been dead ever since SUNRPC? Hasn't the eulogy > > been delivered by CORBA? Haven't folks realized that S-exprs > > are really quit

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 10:49 -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote: > On Aug 14, 2009, at 3:15 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:58:39 -0400, Daniel Lyons > > wrote: > > > >> I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of > >> Lisp variant. > > > > Maybe that should be my

[9fans] Lua on Plan9

2009-08-14 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:27 +0100, Robert Raschke wrote: > Last time I tried, the standard Lua compiled out of the box under the > APE. That is good to know. Still, I'd rather see it run without APE. > Great little language. I use it in my day job (together with Erlang). *together* with Erlang?

[9fans] Lua on Plan9

2009-08-14 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:16 +, Pavel Klinkovsky wrote: > > Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua > > on Plan9? > I am "playing" with Lua on my Plan9 computer... What do you use it for? Any kind of fun projects? My idea is to try and see whether Plan9+Lua would be a m

Re: [9fans] Using Guide Files

2009-08-14 Thread yy
2009/8/12 <6o205z...@sneakemail.com>: > Given how useful and important it is to have Edit in the tag of text > windows, is there some reason that it isn't there automatically? After this discussion, I wrote a little patch, which somebody else might find useful: ; diff /sys/src/cmd/acme/exec.c sr

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread Russ Cox
If there is a Ghostscript output device for a printer, then you just need to edit /sys/lib/lp/devices to add an appropriate line giving the output device name and the file where the output goes. ; grep 'gs!' devices hpdeskjet - - /dev/lpt1data - gs!cdj670+nohead generic nospool - - - - canon

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 14, 2009, at 3:15 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:58:39 -0400, Daniel Lyons > wrote: I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp variant. Maybe that should be my next side project. If that's something you're thinking about doing, let me sug

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/8/14 James Tomaschke : > Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >> If hardware is 2...@192, #A is 2...@192 > > I am not aware that #A allows for 24bit samples, I only see an option > "speed" to set sampling rates.  The man page says: "Each sample is a 16 > bit little-endian two's complement integer". > > I wa

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread hiro
I think I can consider myself lucky, that my equipment doesn't know how to do AC-3 or DTS :) Although my soundcard does have some other interfaces i.e. for a S/PDIF clock source. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 17:36 +0200, hiro wrote: >> > This

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread hiro
> If you're recording doing it at 24-bit will pay off in the mixing > stage. Thanks. And there can be some other kinds of stages, too.

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-14 Thread matt
I have not been able to convince coworkers that filesystem namespaces are the way to go. I think they think it is too hard. *shrug* you can lead a horse... Funny, the problem I usually have is that people think file systems are *too simple*, oh, no data types other than *byte stream*

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread matt
Charles Forsyth wrote: Hardware 24...@192khz. the human ear can't hear as high as that still, it ought to please any passing bat! Hi-fi, hi-fi, ... Personally I can't hear over 9119 hz (audio), but I might want to record 1s of 192Khz (samples I presume) and stretch them by 100x to 96

Re: [9fans] file server?

2009-08-14 Thread Robert Raschke
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:07 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > The venti archive starts at 2AM, and my cron job is at 4AM. So far, I've > not > > yet had an archive take longer than 2 hours. But that's partly due to > > triggering one explicitly after a pull that's just replaced all my > > executables

Re: [9fans] file server?

2009-08-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> Without them, your seperate venti server is JBOD :-P Well, not quite. You > can eventually find the right vac score, but you have to manually mount > each and every score in the venti until you find the right one. See > /sys/src/cmd/venti/words/dumpvacroots. You could probably semi-automate >

Re: [9fans] file server?

2009-08-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> The venti archive starts at 2AM, and my cron job is at 4AM. So far, I've not > yet had an archive take longer than 2 hours. But that's partly due to > triggering one explicitly after a pull that's just replaced all my > executables ;-) that's surprising to me that it would take that long. is tha

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread Akshat Kumar
It seems the product specs page previously mentioned is out-of-date. This[1][2] one mentions LIDIL as the standard language, not PCL 3. Which perhaps makes things even more difficult. dying hopes of young lads, ak P.S.: I don't know anything about LIDIL. [1] http://ln-s.net/3uhn "Print driver

[9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread Akshat Kumar
Wonderful, yes, it would be to print papers from my HP Officejet 5610 through my Plan 9 computers. However, the printer reads only HP's (proprietary?) PDL, called PCL (Printer Command Language)[1][2]. Viz., it does not understand Postscript. Any suggestions on getting Plan 9 to print on this? Bes

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:58:39 -0400, Daniel Lyons wrote: I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp variant. Maybe that should be my next side project. Aaron W. Hsu -- Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be th

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread Paul Donnelly
fors...@terzarima.net (Charles Forsyth) writes: >>Hardware 24...@192khz. > > the human ear can't hear as high as that > still, it ought to please any passing bat! > Hi-fi, hi-fi, ... If you're recording doing it at 24-bit will pay off in the mixing stage.

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Pavel Klinkovsky
> Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua > on Plan9? I am "playing" with Lua on my Plan9 computer... BTW I have found a difference between Linux and Plan9 version: - Linux version can handle "dividing by 0" without crash of Lua interpretter, - Plan9 version cannot. ;-) P

Re: [9fans] file server?

2009-08-14 Thread Robert Raschke
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > This is what we do at Sandia. We have one machine which serves >> cpu/auth/file, but the actual Venti disks are in a Coraid connected >> via GigE. The fossil disk is in the server, but if it dies we can just >> build a new one. >> > > Whi

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Robert Raschke
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 11:55 -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp > > variant. > > Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua > on Plan9? > > Thanks, >

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread Charles Forsyth
sorry, i did realise. i'm afraid i just couldn't resist slightly misquoting Flanders and Swann's `Song of Reproduction' (High Fidelity). http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Flanders-Swann-Georges-Brassens/dp/B06T4S/ref=pd_sim_b_1--- Begin Message --- Charles Forsyth wrote: >> Hardware 24...@192khz.