Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
nevertheless, nobody has a working scanner on plan9 ?? ++pac

Re: [9fans] Drawterm Trouble

2009-11-25 Thread yy
2009/11/24 Martin Gansel ganselmar...@googlemail.com: Drawterm for Linux(I currently run Arch Linux) doesn't allow me to use the middle mouse button emulation(Shift + right mouse button). For example if I run Acme, I can't exec any command via middle button emulation. There is simply no

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Andreas Zell
On 25 Nov., 10:50, tyap...@gmail.com (Peter A. Cejchan) wrote: nevertheless, nobody has a working scanner on plan9 ?? ++pac We have working scanner. www.imageaccess.de You can use the Wt25,WT36,Wt42/48 and WT36DS Scanner. Scan via Touchscreen and upload the images to a Plan9 cifs

Re: [9fans] environment variables

2009-11-25 Thread roger peppe
generally, the correct answer is: don't do that. it's better to treat subshells as if they exist in a different scope, even if the environment group isn't forked. if you want to get values back from a script, send them in its stdout. 2009/11/24 Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com: the easy

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
if i understand it right, your scanner is NOT connected directly to a plan9 native box... ++pac

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Peter A. Cejchan tyap...@gmail.com wrote: if i understand it right, your scanner is NOT connected directly to a plan9 native box... ++pac this is from your web: Requirement - Software: Java Sun Microsystems; Operating System Windows 2000, Windows XP,

Re: [9fans] Where can i get teh code of the Paln 9

2009-11-25 Thread vsong
Thx, got it.

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Jorden Mauro
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:08 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: Has anyone given thought/attempted to getting newer scanners to work on Plan 9? Perhaps the SANE library could be used as a base for something saner (if you'll forgive the pun). i thought that was irony.  :-) -

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Andreas Zell
On 25 Nov., 13:34, tyap...@gmail.com (Peter A. Cejchan) wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Peter A. Cejchan tyap...@gmail.com wrote: if i understand it right, your scanner is NOT connected directly to a plan9 native box... ++pac this is from your web: Requirement - Software:

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Jorden Mauro
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Andreas Zell z...@imageaccess.de wrote: On 25 Nov., 13:34, tyap...@gmail.com (Peter A. Cejchan) wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Peter A. Cejchan tyap...@gmail.com wrote: if i understand it right, your scanner is NOT connected directly to a plan9

Re: [9fans] 9P libraries for Go

2009-11-25 Thread Latchesar Ionkov
I added a Makefile in the repository that builds the packages outside of the go tree. Thanks, Lucho On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Latchesar Ionkov lu...@ionkov.net wrote: Hi, Andrey Mirtchovski and I wrote

Re: [9fans] 9P libraries for Go

2009-11-25 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/11/25 Latchesar Ionkov lu...@ionkov.net: I added a Makefile in the repository that builds the packages outside of the go tree. Any plans for filing a CL to add those to Go's src/pkg repo? I'm sure it would be welcomed. --dho Thanks,    Lucho On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Roman

Re: [9fans] 9P libraries for Go

2009-11-25 Thread Latchesar Ionkov
I did four days ago. No comments yet. I am sure the go team is pretty busy at the moment. Lucho On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/25 Latchesar Ionkov lu...@ionkov.net: I added a Makefile in the repository that builds the packages outside

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
No need for spezial software except a Cifs Server. The scanner use smbclient. i repeat: i do not wish to have anything to do with windoze os, nor with smb and other bullshit. sorry for such a rude wording... windoze annoyed me along with other proprietary sw 20+ yrs i do share all my

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
i dont understand you sry...

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Andreas Zell z...@imageaccess.de wrote: The scanner ist connect via 1G ethernet. On the Touchscreen  is an Option Scan to network. The scanner scans direct to a cifs share (aquarella on plan9). No need for spezial software except a Cifs Server. The scanner

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Brian L. Stuart
The scanner ist connect via 1G ethernet. On the Touchscreen  is an Option Scan to network. The scanner scans direct to a cifs share (aquarella on plan9). No need for spezial software except a Cifs Server. The scanner use smbclient. That's neat. It makes sense too, using ethernet

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: The scanner ist connect via 1G ethernet. On the Touchscreen  is an Option Scan to network. The scanner scans direct to a cifs share (aquarella on plan9). No need for spezial software except a Cifs Server.

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread hiro
I'm using a comparable system here. I have to retrieve the scans with a web interface (but as you say, better than nothing). Standards... On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: The scanner ist connect via 1G ethernet. On the Touchscreen  is an Option

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread erik quanstrom
That's neat. It makes sense too, using ethernet almost always seems a better deal than using USB. coraid agrees. except for the almost part. - erik

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Anthony Sorace
where's my ethernet mouse? ;-) On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:20, erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com wrote: That's neat. It makes sense too, using ethernet almost always seems a better deal than using USB. coraid agrees.  except for the almost part. - erik

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Nov 25 12:49:12 EST 2009, ano...@gmail.com wrote: where's my ethernet mouse? ;-) how to troll like a pro! - erik

[9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread ron minnich
pcc -c -I. /sys/src/cmd/gs/jpeg/jcapimin.c cpp: /sys/src/cmd/gs/jpeg/jpeglib.h:26 /sys/src/cmd/gs/jpeg/jcapimin.c:21 Could not find include file jmorecfg.h /sys/src/cmd/gs/jpeg/jpeglib.h:66[stdin:542] not a function /sys/src/cmd/gs/jpeg/jpeglib.h:66[stdin:542] syntax error, last name: FAR pcc:

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread Federico G. Benavento
ok, that's my contrib package you're trying to build, it looks like that jmlrecfg.h file changed its location in the distribution, I'll fix the contrib package On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:50 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: pcc -c -I. /sys/src/cmd/gs/jpeg/jcapimin.c cpp:

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread Federico G. Benavento
contrib/pull fgb/jpeg it should build ok, now, thanks On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.com wrote: ok, that's my contrib package you're trying to build, it looks like that jmlrecfg.h file changed its location in the distribution, I'll fix the contrib

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Brian L. Stuart
to having cifs as an option.  But when did it become popular to say that ftp should not be an option for transferring a file? The basic little flatbed on the website can scan to FTP. I'm not sure why the original poster chose to mention SMB and not FTP, but it's an option. DOH!

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.com wrote: contrib/pull fgb/jpeg That did it. thanks ron

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread ron minnich
stupid question, I bet: how do I list all the contrib packages I've pulled down. I'm wondering how to know which ones to pull. ron

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote: where's my ethernet mouse? ;-) I thought it was called drawterm. ron

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread W B Hacker
Anthony Sorace wrote: where's my ethernet mouse? ;-) If Plan9 can 'plumb' a remote sound card, (a questionable example long publicized) I'm sure it can do so with a mouse. 'Questionable example', as I've never quite understood how I'd be able to hear the output of a sound card whose

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread Federico G. Benavento
adrian mailed me this script some months ago I think it might help #!/bin/rc replicas=/dist/replica for (i in `{grep '^s=/n/sources/contrib' $replicas/* | sed 's...@.*/(.*):.*/(.*)/repl...@\2/\1@'}) { echo contrib/pull $i } On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:16 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread ron minnich
Maybe this could be added to the contrib system. contrib/pull with no args pulls all contribs that I already pulled contrib/listlocal would list local contribs ron

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
That would be great. I'm just using two clumsy ad-hoc scripts, but I think everyone using contrib needs these two things. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:01 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe this could be added to the contrib system. contrib/pull with no args pulls all contribs that I

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread Federico G. Benavento
I added: contrib/local [ -m ] [ -p ] Contrib/local Lists local contrib installed packages (default). The -m option changes the default behavior and local prints the maintained packages instead of the installed ones.

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.com wrote: comments are welcome Great. We're getting there. I do think in the long term the contrib packages should be tar files. That would get our performance back. ron

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread erik quanstrom
Great. We're getting there. I do think in the long term the contrib packages should be tar files. That would get our performance back. that performance is only for one case. what about the case where i'd like to know if a local file differs from sources? (i suggest contrib/diff as an addition

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:07 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: that performance is only for one case.  what about the case where i'd like to know if a local file differs from sources? Then use replica for that. But replica is just too slow to be a useful for package management.

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Nov 25 17:34:12 EST 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:07 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: that performance is only for one case.  what about the case where i'd like to know if a local file differs from sources? Then use replica for that. But

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread geoff
The slowness of loading openssl probably has something to do with it being bloatware on a par with ghostscript.

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread W B Hacker
ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: The slowness of loading openssl probably has something to do with it being bloatware on a par with ghostscript. And the better alternatives to either are ? Bill

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Charles Forsyth
If Plan9 can 'plumb' a remote sound card, (a questionable example long publicized) I'm sure it can do so with a mouse. it isn't plumbing, but export/import, and it's useful. i had a usable sound system on my r3000 indigo, but my PC had none. on the pc, i imported the indigo's /dev and played

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread cinap_lenrek
what is the sense of this discussion by the way? here are no scanner drivers for plan9 right know. nobody seems to be working at one. nobody cares if you dont like the solutions/hacks to the problem. so just stop this thread and write a driver if you need one. -- cinap ---BeginMessage--- No

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-11-25 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:18 PM, ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: The slowness of loading openssl probably has something to do with it being bloatware on a par with ghostscript. I can't argue with that. But I still believe that replica is not an effective tool for package management. ron

[9fans] sigsegv in 9vx

2009-11-25 Thread ron minnich
Sorry if this is the wrong mailing list. I can get a 100% reproducible panic in 9vx by doing this: 9fs sources cd /sys dircp /n/sources/plan9/sys/src src * 6 Thread 0x7f585f527950 (LWP 4507) panic (fmt=0x46e01d sigsegv on cpu%d) at 9vx/stub.c:517 5 Thread 0x7f5864528950 (LWP 4369)

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Anthony Sorace
erik wrote: // how to troll like a pro! see, i was paying attention! bill wrote: // ...a questionable example... if you have a lab of terminals but only one or two have a working sound card and speakers, it can make good sense. first time i saw that was a demo for something unrelated; we were

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread W B Hacker
Charles Forsyth wrote: If Plan9 can 'plumb' a remote sound card, (a questionable example long publicized) I'm sure it can do so with a mouse. it isn't plumbing, but export/import, and it's useful. i had a usable sound system on my r3000 indigo, but my PC had none. on the pc, i imported the

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread erik quanstrom
'export/import' applied to remote resources - especially 'scarce' or expensive ones (sound cards no longer are..) that could *send back* the results might make a better present-day example. the resource i want is generally particuarly scarce; there is often just one device that will do.

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread W B Hacker
Anthony Sorace wrote: erik wrote: // how to troll like a pro! see, i was paying attention! bill wrote: // ...a questionable example... if you have a lab of terminals but only one or two have a working sound card and speakers, it can make good sense. I'm sure it did *at the time*... But

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread W B Hacker
erik quanstrom wrote: 'export/import' applied to remote resources - especially 'scarce' or expensive ones (sound cards no longer are..) that could *send back* the results might make a better present-day example. the resource i want is generally particuarly scarce; there is often just one

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread erik quanstrom
But it IS a bit frustrating to see drivers available in one F/OSS OS (or variant) and not another, more especially as they are nearly always written in reasonably portable 'C' code these many years. that's easier said than done. Blocks are not the same as sk_bufs. for that matter, they're

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Sam Watkins
I don't know how hideously complicated it would be, to implement a module interface that would support loading linux modules into whatever other OS such as Plan 9. I suppose it would be vastly simpler than something like wine for example. I think that would be useful, because so many devices are

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Sam Watkins
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 05:43:35PM +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: I don't know how hideously complicated it would be, to implement a module interface that would support loading linux modules into whatever other OS such as Plan 9. also perhaps it would be possible to run modules in userland, again

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-25 Thread Sam Watkins
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 05:51:37PM +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: also perhaps it would be possible to run modules in userland, again drivers needing access to direct memory-mapped devices and not doing that through the kernel might be a problem. sorry for repeated posting! apparently this DUSK