Re: [9fans] _xinc vs ainc

2011-05-08 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun May 8 02:01:57 EDT 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: The type signature reveals all: ainc returns a long, and xinc is void. You really can't test the value of the long * after you call xinc because somebody else might have done an xinc after your xinc but before you test the value.

[9fans] Plan 9 IRL

2011-05-08 Thread Comeau At9Fans
Hi, I've have some curiosity about a few things for a while. The thread about the web and Plan 9 got me rethinking… It's often touted that Plan 9 is a research OS, and I believe that, and I understand some of the implications of that (could swear I went to a NYC USENIX(?) meeting at the foot of

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 IRL

2011-05-08 Thread Jacob Todd
Coraid uses plan 9 in a few places; I think firmware that ships with their hardware is a stripped down plan 9. I know there's other companies that use plan 9, but I'm drawing a blank on them right now.

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-08 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 09:54:28AM +, Greg Comeau wrote: Some more food for thought: Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, definition, not smart enough to debug it. --Brian Kernighan

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-08 Thread Mathieu Lonjaret
In Brian Kernighan's sentence, s/cleverly/sophisticatedly/ (this is probably a barbarism, but in french sophistiqué is pejorative: obfuscation, convoluted etc.). Sorry, but it's not. it just means complex, and is not usually employed to make any value judgment. Just look it up in any

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 IRL

2011-05-08 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun May 8 11:58:29 EDT 2011, jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: Coraid uses plan 9 in a few places; I think firmware that ships with their hardware is a stripped down plan 9. I know there's other companies that use plan 9, but I'm drawing a blank on them right now. if you want to participate in

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-08 Thread Comeau At9Fans
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 09:54:28AM +, Greg Comeau wrote: Some more food for thought: Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-08 Thread Lucio De Re
On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 08:27:53PM +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: (this is probably a barbarism, but in french sophistiqué is pejorative: obfuscation, convoluted etc.). In Italian in 1969, sofisticato meant adulterated. I'm not sure if that is still the case. I think I see what you