On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 08:27:53PM +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
> 
> (this is
> probably a barbarism, but in french "sophistiqué" is pejorative:
> obfuscation, convoluted etc.).

In Italian in 1969, "sofisticato" meant "adulterated".  I'm not sure if
that is still the case.  I think I see what you mean.

But as for "clever", there are shades of meaning there, there's a
clever beyond clever that is what you suggest would discover simplicity.
Arguing around subtleties in different languages is sophistic at best.

++L

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