On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 08:27:53PM +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > (this is > probably a barbarism, but in french "sophistiqué" is pejorative: > obfuscation, convoluted etc.).
In Italian in 1969, "sofisticato" meant "adulterated". I'm not sure if that is still the case. I think I see what you mean. But as for "clever", there are shades of meaning there, there's a clever beyond clever that is what you suggest would discover simplicity. Arguing around subtleties in different languages is sophistic at best. ++L