Re: [9fans] abaco @ plan9port [WAS: Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?]

2008-03-12 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:36 AM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is a bad idea, what if you want to use an alternate webfs (on a different NIC), or an non-standard cookies file? do you want to wait whilst webcookies rescans it databse at startup and webfs rescans

Re: [9fans] It looks like our GSoC application was rejected

2008-03-18 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Skip Tavakkolian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps a little introspection is needed. was it that they didn't like the proposals this year or that they didn't like the outcome of last year's effort? or maybe they just want to spread their love. last

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Iruata Souza
2008/3/26 Rob Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED]: echo -n -n' ' -rob I know this is a silly question, but doesn't this defeats the purpose of the first -n? iru

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I know what I quoted. I changed the B to a Delta to represent change and turned dom to doom. YOU ARE THE TARD IF YOU DID NOT GET THAT. It now reads CHANGE -- DOOM! We need to keep echo the same because of the

Re: [9fans] 9P support for MC

2008-03-26 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I'd just want to let you know I've added 9P support to the Midnight Commander (via libmvfs + libmixp). cu I'm forwarding this to 9p-hackers. iru

[9fans] hot or not

2008-04-06 Thread Iruata Souza
http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?I=ugu.hotnotHN=1113RT=10 iru

Re: [9fans] Drawterm not working in Leopard

2008-04-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Juan M. Mendez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/27 Vinícius de Figueiredo Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://web.ncf.ca/ac895/books/opl_seminar_notes.html I don't think it's necessary to send so many useless answers, or wisecracks for something that could be

Re: [9fans] ext2srv

2008-05-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it still suffer from the 2GB size problem, or s it solved already? Thanks, sincerely, I added symlinks because of fgb's (and others) needs. I can take a look on the 2GB issue too if that would help someone. iru

Re: [9fans] ext2srv

2008-05-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would help me much until I get rid of linux completely. I have dirs with big photos (~ 300MB each) so I had to split them into subdirs to hadle them via ext2srv. i also tried tofiddle with the source, but I gave up. since i already

Re: [9fans] Where is Uriel?

2008-05-19 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He has been MIA since March 11, and his last cat-v blog update was from around that time. Isn't he supposed to be taking care of some things, like the Contrib Index page of the wiki? I just modified his contrindx and

Re: [9fans] crosstool fails on gentoo

2008-06-02 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Roman Shaposhnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 22:37 +0200, Uriel wrote: *yet another layer of complexity so you can look at all that stuff at the same time*. all I care about is that it doesn't leak I don't have any solaris boxes to play

Re: [9fans] Modularizing plan9port

2008-06-11 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Uriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cross-compiling in Gnu/land is a nightmare not worth going into. No, it isn't - as long as you've got a proper toolchain and get around autoshit. (eg. I've got my own libtool

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Bruce Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how the praise of excellent was bestowed on QEMU. It may work well on a x86 emulating an x86 but try something else. It ends in tears. just like opening up an x86 machine and trying to stick a mips processor

Re: [9fans] Getting drawterm to work in Leopard (again)

2008-06-19 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I'm trying to get drawterm to work in Leopard again. Here is my command line: drawterm-osx-intel -c 'tcp!127.0.0.1!17010' -a 'tcp!127.0.0.1!2567' -s 'tcp!127.0.0.1!5356' -u pietro is connecting to

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD-4.3

2008-06-30 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Iruata Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Tim Wiess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can wait a couple days I'll have some time later in the week to port this over to OpenBSD. I'm currently trying to get 9vx work on OpenBSD-4.3

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD-4.3

2008-06-30 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Tim Wiess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can wait a couple days I'll have some time later in the week to port this over to OpenBSD. I'm currently trying to get 9vx work on OpenBSD-4.3 (i386, 750Mhz, 256MB RAM), but each time I want to start 9vx I get the

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-06-30 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barring a mystical bond with its exquisite kernel, of course. it seems you have done much kernel programming, eh? iru

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Window decorations (as they're called in X-speak) are not mere decorations, they're useful. The two button (+/- wheel) mouse is prevalent because for most people only the index and middle finger are robust enough. The ring

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All these could theoretically become supported (that's different from being included) in an OS if it manages to gather enough public momentum. Without that you can do only your serious stuff which excludes quite some of

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A stand-alone Plan 9 system amounts in conceptual complexity for the user to at least three interconnected machines. Very little has been done to cover that. does distributed gets translated to something else in your web

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Dummies books are essentially non sequiturs arising from marketing schemes. RTFM is really the way to go, but you need to have an incentive, a promise, to RTFM. Obviously, sometimes the incentive is replaced by a

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD-4.3

2008-07-04 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Malik Bazz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious, did your porting attempt suceed? Hope you'll post some news for the OpenBSD port here... sorry for not reporting until now. I´m not at home and have no access to my tree right now, but I can already run 9vx.

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD-4.3

2008-07-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Malik Bazz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me again - Were you successfull in porting 9vx to OpenBSD? If you need some testing help, contact me. http://iru.oitobits.net/src/vx32-0.10-openbsd-compiled.tgz I guess you'll have problems compiling. Let me know if you do.

Re: [9fans] file heuristics on troff input

2008-07-11 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a bit of humor: COMPUTER ME % cd troff % file * advp9prog: directory yes (old attempt at plan 9 programmer's guide) algoawk:

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 and multicores/parallelism/concurrency?

2008-07-14 Thread Iruata Souza
On 7/14/08, sqweek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:45 PM, ssecorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from wikipedia: Plan 9 from Bell Labs is a distributed operating system, primarily used for research. but it doesnt say anything more about the distributed part. In

Re: [9fans] 8 cores

2008-07-16 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Benjamin Huntsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Furthermore, does anyone out there run Plan 9 on non-x86 hardware anymore? only for the fun of it, I'm slowly trying to port it to my SGI O2. iru

Re: [9fans] 8 cores

2008-07-17 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Kernel Panic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iruata Souza wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Benjamin Huntsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Furthermore, does anyone out there run Plan 9 on non-x86 hardware anymore? only for the fun of it, I'm slowly trying

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-19 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wrong on so many levels. Go read the responses 9people gave the original poster. You'll see why it's _right_ on so many levels. Plan 9 obeys the UNIX way: tools that make jobs simpler. A UNIX better than UNIX? I

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-19 Thread Iruata Souza
eris, I agree, thanks. iru

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-20 Thread Iruata Souza
On 8/20/08, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACLs were invented long ago. yes, I like clean and simple solutions too. iru

Re: [9fans] cin is in

2008-09-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Michaelian Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Bruce Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how you get the source but it is a cool program. It can simulate itself simulating itself simulating another program. Lotsa cool

Re: [9fans] cin is in

2008-09-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Bruce Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CINT has nothing to do with cin. There is a good paper on cin in the 9th Edition docs. It went on to become vice, which has an X interface, or samuel, which has a sam interface. CINT looks pretty sucky. your eyes are

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:17 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that type of types. I gave an example (which Charles Forsyth found to be a bad one) to set the types of types apart. I mean types as in named pipes (special files) versus regular files. In my experience which is

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-15 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, neither you nor anyone else have addressed the question of port forwarding using an imported /net. I love science. iru

Re: [9fans] What about Haskell? [was: How can I use alef?]

2008-11-20 Thread Iruata Souza
in my contrib there is a more up-to-date lua port On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Federico G. Benavento [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, it's in nils contrib (noselasd) On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:47 PM, John Barham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've often though quite a few languages could be

Re: [9fans] sources web interface has gone screwy

2008-11-21 Thread Iruata Souza
http://9fans.net/archive/2008/10/99 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:40 PM, matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/ sed: Can't open s/PATH/\/n\/sources\/contrib/g; s/CONTRIB/is/g; d-rwxrwxr-x aganti sys 0 May 21 2008 aganti

Re: [9fans] Gmail and upas

2008-11-21 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FUN FACT: GMail works well with links/elinks. does humans work well with that software? iru

Re: [9fans] Explanation of binding from ftpfs

2008-12-06 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Brad Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I use ftpfs to mount a ftp site and then bind /n/ftp to another location. All appears to work fine in /n/ftp and in the other location. When I type ns, I can clearly see the pipe bind for ftpfs mounted to /n/ftp. When I

Re: [9fans] Explanation of binding from ftpfs

2008-12-06 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Brad Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot to mention when I bind /n/ftp I was really binding /n/ftp/directory to another location. if I understand it correctly, the reference to the server is still there even if you don't see /n/ftp anymore. iru

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Iruata Souza
till there, if you want to try something in software take a look at http://bitmux.org/qemu.html. i talked once to ron about porting to the gumstix as a gsoc project i'd be willing to do. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: I´m done with some usb stuff I´m doing

Re: [9fans] plan9port openbsd 4.4

2009-01-25 Thread Iruata Souza
could you send me the core file? are you linking with rthreads? iru On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Fernan Bolando fernanbola...@mailc.net wrote: Hi all I recently installed plan9port on an openbsd pc in order gain access to acme and other tools. rio seems to work fine, but I have been

Re: [9fans] plan9port openbsd 4.4

2009-01-26 Thread Iruata Souza
can't remember on 4.4, but 4.3 did run acme fine. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: The plan9port code depends on the operating system's pthreads being real kernel-level threads, not a fake user-level simulation. The user-level simulations are not good enough,

Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?

2009-01-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: Mercurial and git solve all replica problems, and some more. They are infinitely faster, more reliable, and more useful. And in some ways they are even conceptually simpler (I never quite understood some of the most subtle points

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Pietro Gagliardi pietr...@mac.com wrote: On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:58 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: also, can you please remove debugging output from 9fans? What do you mean? Could you paste the raw text data for one of my emails? PGP for Mac Mail hides

Re: [9fans] Web interface to '/n/sources/contrib' gone??

2009-02-10 Thread Iruata Souza
i may be wrong here but http://9fans.net/archive/2008/10/99 may be suggesting why these problems are occuring. if i'm correct, i feel compeled to say: what's the problem with using old threads that discuss the same issue? iru

Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook

2009-03-19 Thread Iruata Souza
tim weiss started work on kencc mips64 port and I started (w/o the compiler) playing with Plan 9 on mips64 based on the old carrera port. the stupid initial code is at http://src.oitobits.net/9sgi On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:24 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at

Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook

2009-03-20 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: wouldn't it just be easier to use 32-bit compatability mode (http://www.mips.com/products/processors/architectures/mips64/) for bootstrapping using vc? that's how i started playing. iru

Re: [9fans] Security, take 2.

2009-04-19 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: Given the feedback from the list, I've come up with two alternatives. (Well, one of them was actually Mechiel's brainchild). Idea #1 (From Mechiel) Instead of doing typed allocations, give every user an allocation

Re: [9fans] off-topic: small is beautiful article

2009-06-25 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote: TinyScheme has been in contrib for a long time, but I don't know its limitations or how it would stack up against 'ChibiScheme' John Alex (the article's author) mentions it at

Re: [9fans] Question about Plan9 project

2009-07-20 Thread Iruata Souza
it is so difficult to 'fork' the project that it took me less than 10 minutes to turn the kernel sources into a hg repository. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:59 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote: Plan 9 is *not* an open source

Re: [9fans] plan9port behind corporate firewall with no DNS or port access

2009-07-25 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Salman Aljammazs...@finiteless.net wrote: Uriel wrote: If your work firewall proxies port 80, then things get trickier, you could mount sources on the home inferno instance, and then export it using mjl's httpd as a read-only http 'tree'. assuming you've got

Re: [9fans] 9p question

2009-07-30 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Russ Coxr...@swtch.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Venkatesh Srinivasm...@acm.jhu.edu wrote: How come you can't TWalk along an open Fid? In the original 9P protocol, that didn't make sense, because walk always updated the fid it was starting from.

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Ethan Grammatikidiseeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:29:25 -0300 Iruata Souza iru.mu...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Ethan Grammatikidiseeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:33:18 +0100 Steve Simon st

Re: [9fans] Acme Configuration

2009-08-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Noah Evansnoah.ev...@gmail.com wrote: you mean outside of the dump when acme is dies for reasons other than being killed/exited? with win state, how are you going to handle the state of the shell? I can see why they're dynamic, it could be potentially

Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated

2009-08-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Noah Evansnoah.ev...@gmail.com wrote: man 4 disk # disk(4) On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bela Valekbval...@gmail.com wrote: I have checked it on 3 different installations, the 'usbdisk' manpage is missing, on fresh installations too. Its not a filesystem

Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated

2009-08-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Noah Evansnoah.ev...@gmail.com wrote: Try it. try updating your system.

Re: [9fans] dump9660?

2009-08-20 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Venkatesh Srinivasm...@acm.jhu.edu wrote: Hi, Do any of you still use dump9660? Any recent experiences or stuff I should watch out for using it? mk9660(8) is the main user, but i don't think she reads the list. iru

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote: Er, it doesn't need a new PBS, booting Plan 9 from a Plan 9 kernel already worked just fine with what russ did years ago. uriel i heard that from you already. i just don't know why haven't you done it yet. for the ones

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Tim Newshamnews...@lava.net wrote: for the ones interested, the code is at http://src.oitobits.net/9null. i'm writing a README explaining how to compile and install. Are there plans for this to get folded into the mainline? I wrote it with the hope of getting

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote: Can it load and parse plan9.ini? uriel it can. can you? iru

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, erik quanstromquans...@coraid.com wrote: Do we stick with that file format forever? is it perfect and never to be changed? would it be fair to ask a the same question from a little different perspective? could someone explain what the disadvantages and

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:38 PM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net wrote: It has not been a problem for anyone I know. It might not be perfect or beautiful, but I have yet to hear any suggestion for a replacement that has all the advantages of 9fat (simple, reliable, easily accessible

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:41 PM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net wrote: 9null (the project we're talking about) doesn't require any of it, but allows it. you can have a fat partition with plan9.ini and, say, 9pcf. but it can't reside at the very beginning of the disk. in fact, you should

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Steve Simonst...@quintile.net wrote: 9fat is also a pain in that the 9load file must be created with, and retain its append only file, which has a special meaning to 9fat telling it to create the file in sequential blocks. This could (and has) caused problems

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:23 AM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Federico G. Benaventobenave...@gmail.com wrote: I could achieve the same as I did by doing copy 9load E: on windows with this

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM, mattmaht-9f...@maht0x0r.net wrote: erik quanstrom wrote: i love it.  we have complaining that fat doesn't do more than 8.3 and trolling that there's a patent liability for doing more than 8.3 within 24 hrs. thanks but I'm not trolling, not complaining

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Iruata Souzairu.mu...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM, mattmaht-9f...@maht0x0r.net wrote: erik quanstrom wrote: i love it.  we have complaining that fat doesn't do more than 8.3 and trolling that there's a patent liability for doing more

Re: [9fans] scheme plan 9

2009-09-02 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Eris Discordiaeris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: Although, you may be better off reading SICP as intended, and use MIT Scheme on either Windows or a *NIX. The book (and the freaking language) is already hard/unusual enough for one to not want to get confused by

Re: [9fans] Blocks in C

2009-09-03 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:50 PM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: Apple's using it all over the place in Snow Leopard, in all their native apps to write cleaner, less manual-lock code.  At least,

Re: [9fans] Blocks in C

2009-09-04 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Roman Shaposhnikr...@sun.com wrote: There's been a *lot* of speculation on this thread and very little fact. (...) Trust me, I've seen how it is generated. so we should trust you and not the facts? is that what you are saying? because i haven't seen any

Re: [9fans] lisp again.

2009-09-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:54 AM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM, LiteStar numnumslites...@gmail.com wrote: Well, lisp != common lisp aside, I wouldn't mind a native CL system. I haven't looked at the SBCL backend in quite sometime, but, assuming it's not

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-09 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: anyone written any software recently? writing a new boot(8) that uses rc(1) to drive the boot process. iru

Re: [9fans] Blocks in C

2009-09-11 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Bakul Shah bakul+pl...@bitblocks.com wrote: On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:31:28 PDT David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com  wrote: Having wrestled with this stuff a little bit, and written something.  I can immediately see how one can get away from needing to select in code

Re: [9fans] linux stats in last year from linuxcon

2009-09-24 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Patrick Kelly kameo76...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:55 PM, David Arnold dav...@pobox.com wrote: On 22/09/2009, at 4:47 PM, Jack Norton wrote: In the end I don't care what the linux devs do, but they need to come up with a game plan and

Re: [9fans] 9vx as a perfect proto environment

2009-09-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: It's fast. But the big beauty of it for me is that in vx32/src/9vx/a is pretty much a plan 9 kernel in plan 9 C vernacular. I just spent an easy short time prototyping some new stuff that I can now drop into a real plan 9 kernel

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-06 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Mon Oct  5 17:35:11 EDT 2009, m...@acm.jhu.edu wrote: Hi, For those of us traveling to IWP9, what are recommended ways to get from Atlanta to Athens? We were likely going to Atlanta by train... Thanks, -- vs

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-06 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:19 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: if anyone want to rent a car, let me know so maybe a few people can share the expenses. i should have mentioned that driving is generally very easy as long as you can use the carpool lane.  (but then again, i didn't

Re: [9fans] IWP9 hack session

2009-10-06 Thread Iruata Souza
i second that. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: Should have come up with that before people booked travel.  Thursday night at a pub perhaps? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2009, at 2:50 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to have a

Re: [9fans] 9P in lua

2009-10-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.com wrote: There is a LUA for P9 http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/iru/lua-5.1-plan9.tgz But ... 9P on LUA maybe iRu knows ? i don't. not yet. 2009/10/13 Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org: Guys, has

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-26 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: I thought it was just wonderful, and noticed similar reactions from everyone else. It was a very fine meeting. Makes me even more sick I was unable to come. could somone post a quick summary of the plan9 extra-cirricular

Re: [9fans] sed question (OT)

2009-10-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: To capitalize the first letter of each line wouldn't this be enough? s/^./\u/ ; echo abc def | sed 's/^.\u/' sed: s command garbled: s/^.\u/ i guess you missed the second slash

Re: [9fans] sed question (OT)

2009-10-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Lorenzo Bolla lbo...@gmail.com wrote: To capitalize the first letter of each line wouldn't this be enough? s/^./\u/ L. % echo rwrong | sed 's/^./\u/' urwrong

Re: [9fans] dtrace for plan 9

2009-11-03 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nathaniel W Filardo n...@cs.jhu.edu wrote: On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 11:58:10AM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: On Sun Nov  1 11:55:47 EST 2009, devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: Also, D is not compiled in kernel. The dtrace utility compiles the D script, and the script

Re: [9fans] dtrace for plan 9

2009-11-03 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: i was told dtrace was non-intrusive at the time, but w2 would show the command history from w1. More likely this is ksh sharing a history file. at the time i couldn't reproduce it with other shells. anyway, iirc, no

[9fans] kernel compiling with -R

2009-11-04 Thread Iruata Souza
hello, is there any reason why the kernel is not linked with its text segment rounded? iru

Re: [9fans] MIPS LSB compiler

2009-11-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote:   * A ducktyping of sorts with interfaces and such. On the surface it just saves     you a bunch of extends XXX, but it actually seems to bridge the gap between     dynamically typed world and a statically typed one to an

Re: [9fans] usb disks in plan9

2009-11-23 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: Usb disks don't know how to handle partitions. You have to use partfs IIRC or some other tool to partition it. Hmm..  Here is what I would like to do.  I would like to put a FAT32 and a fossil (or kfs) filesystem on a usb

[9fans] auth_getkey(2) and factotum path

2009-12-09 Thread Iruata Souza
hello, i am playing with a kernel configuration where i have factotum in /$cputype/bin/auth/factotum instead of /boot. today this is not possible because auth_getkey(2) requires /boot/factotum or /factotum to be present. would it be a problem if auth_getkey tried the usual place too? iru

Re: [9fans] Announcing: rootless post kernel load startup

2010-01-02 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:56 PM, mycroftiv 9gridchan mycrof...@sphericalharmony.com wrote: More recent work - available on sources in contrib/mycroftiv/rootlessboot as both patches and a compiled ready to use kernel and optional rootfs.tgz additional tools to be placed in 9fat partition.

Re: [9fans] parallels

2010-01-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:12 PM, ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: I don't have enough experience with VirtualBox to make a sensible comparison. The thing that none of the VM monitors seem to offer (though I'd love to be proven wrong) is debugging tools for the guest operating systems.  This

Re: [9fans] problem with pull

2010-02-04 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote: Also, could you tell me what those errors are about and what the /n/boot directory is good for? /n/boot seems to be the mount of #s/boot, the root file server srv file.

Re: [9fans] New User with Problems

2010-02-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Steve carrickfergu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been scouring the Interwebs and haven't been able to find much of a solution. Yesterday I decided to give P9 a try and burned the ISO file available on Plan 9's installation page here:

Re: [9fans] New User with Problems

2010-02-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:13 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:34 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: I did look around and the only possible problems I could find were that maybe since I don't have Windows it was trying to look for the

Re: [9fans] How to mount a P9 partition?

2010-02-19 Thread Iruata Souza
fossil/fossil -f /dev/sdD0/fossil -c 'srv fossil' this should post /srv/fossil as you want. then you can proceed to mounting as you did with the cd. On 2/19/10, Jonas Amoson jonas.amo...@home.se wrote: Hello! I am trying to access files that I have on a harddrive on which the Plan 9

Re: [9fans] (no subject)

2010-03-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:42 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: We have fgb's contrib, and before that just the INDEX files in / contrib on sources. Neither is a perfect solution, but I don't think the problem here would be addressed by the Labs providing some new resource. Between the above and

Re: [9fans] ports duplication

2010-03-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:26 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: As for the smaller things, I would prefer to see ten different bits of code that achieve the same end vs. just one. Diversity is good, and a broader selection of code gives a bigger field to mine for ideas and concepts. I really

Re: [9fans] Plan ? (was: native install)

2010-03-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Corey co...@bitworthy.net wrote: On Monday 29 March 2010 17:24:08 erik quanstrom wrote: In any given social environment, communicating dissatisfaction of the status quo is often the logical first step towards choices (a) and/or (b) - due to the fact that

Re: [9fans] Plan ? (was: native install)

2010-03-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Corey co...@bitworthy.net wrote: Is it that the core Plan 9 design concepts[1] are in fact inappropriate or uninteresting for anything beyond that which Plan 9 currently provides? [1] /sys/doc

Re: [9fans] bootiso.s fixed

2010-04-07 Thread Iruata Souza
i guess this email was for me. ;] On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:52 PM, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: found it! the problem was the LBPB() to load byte 0 from the pvd for comparsion. i loaded it into rBX instead of rBL.  found this out after dumping the buffer and noticed that the contents where the

Re: [9fans] /sys/lib/newuser patch

2010-04-11 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: newuser assumes that your home directory exists, and on a normal plan 9 install, it's likely not possible to create anything in /usr without doing it on the fs console. Maybe I am missing something here, but this is not a normal

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