Re: [9fans] Modularizing plan9port

2008-06-11 Thread tlaronde
understanding than I spent myself, putting the emphasis on these sort of tools, is like looking to the finger when plan9 shows you the moon. I put now together: consistancy and concision: hbrw, an hmg to Kn Thmpsn. Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

Re: [9fans] current state of thread programming

2008-07-28 Thread tlaronde
) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] current state of thread programming

2008-07-30 Thread tlaronde
between processes and that it is simplest to put them in the same address space). The most efficient is to have tools that match the way our brains work (or not...). I'm not convinced our brains are parallel (at least mines are not). -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

Re: [9fans] current state of thread programming

2008-07-30 Thread tlaronde
). Parallelism is more at a higher level: methodology, engineering, the same level as, say, structural programming. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] An Observation

2008-11-14 Thread tlaronde
to succeed, they will claim that the recipe is theirs. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-26 Thread tlaronde
Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-26 Thread tlaronde
of a top to bottom thought. The general papers about Unix and Plan 9, the explanations of the logics of the whole can not be, IMHO, tagged as bottom to top. They are simply to the point ;) -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-27 Thread tlaronde
hand, so the other is free to slap when needed (and a foot free to kick if first lesson was not received strong enough). -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Raw Input Driver

2009-03-20 Thread tlaronde
which has put the articulation (the network) on the wrong place: in X11, all the UI handling, except dispatching window events, is done on the processing unit (the client in X11 terminology). -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key

Re: [9fans] Raw Input Driver

2009-03-20 Thread tlaronde
. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Raw Input Driver

2009-03-20 Thread tlaronde
Im my previous message, obviously: s/queue/push/g s/dequeue/pop/g -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] typed sh (was: what features would you like in a shell?)

2009-04-02 Thread tlaronde
in BIOS to let you play with the almost bare machine. I'd like to have a shell that lets me play with the bare OS. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] noweb and literal programming

2009-04-11 Thread tlaronde
since CWEB is hard can be only sustained by people who don't use it.] Will be quiet now (since having work using CWEB). -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] VMs, etc. (was: Re: security questions)

2009-04-17 Thread tlaronde
. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] VMs, etc. (was: Re: security questions)

2009-04-17 Thread tlaronde
for software only organizations). This definitively doesn't mean NUMA has no raison d'être. On the contrary, this is an argument supplementary to the distinction between the UI (terminals) and the CPU. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key

Re: [9fans] VMs, etc. (was: Re: security questions)

2009-04-17 Thread tlaronde
and the handling of users is so that a user can randomly read/write (not sharable). A group can append/write but without modifying records. And others can only (perhaps) read. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7

Re: [9fans] Plan9 - the next 20 years

2009-04-17 Thread tlaronde
or managing the thing. But I have the impression that the Plan 9 framework is the best for such a scheme. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] VMs, etc. (was: Re: security questions)

2009-04-17 Thread tlaronde
on the application side, for the rest my discussion of cloud computing could be a discussion about vapor computing ;) -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Plan9 - the next 20 years

2009-04-18 Thread tlaronde
with as the only means the users' hardware connected is perhaps a WEB 3.0 or more, a 4th millenium idea etc. but is for me at best an error, at worst a swindle. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D

Re: [9fans] Plan9 - the next 20 years

2009-04-18 Thread tlaronde
and as far as the OS is concerned nothing has changed since the node is an unit, an atom. And trying to solve the problem by breaking the border (going inside the atom) is something I don't feel. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com

Re: [9fans] Plan9 - the next 20 years

2009-04-18 Thread tlaronde
not just rule things out because reasonable people don't do them. Unreasonable people write apps too. There are, from times to times, lists of Worst IT jobs ever. I _do_ think yours should come first! Having to say: yes to an user... Br... -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot

Re: [9fans] automatic page sharing

2009-04-18 Thread tlaronde
linking. 2) static shared libraries [your proposal] 3) dynamically linked shared libraries. For what is worth, you can find explanations in Linkers and Loaders by John R. Levine, Morgan Kaufmann, ISBN 1-55860-496-0. HTH, -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

Re: [9fans] FAWN: Fast array of wimpy nodes (was: Plan 9 - the next 20 years)

2009-04-19 Thread tlaronde
(Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Plan9 - the next 20 years

2009-04-23 Thread tlaronde
by advertising a limited not crashing too fast example. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Plan9 - the next 20 years

2009-04-24 Thread tlaronde
not sure that what I do is not to be added to the list of don't do that things. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Google finally announces their lightweight OS

2009-07-08 Thread tlaronde
terminal, CPU and fileserver. And Plan9 was thought with SMP from the beginning. So why all is always Linux based ? And no, I have no problem accessing my data wherever I go, because it is _my_ data. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com

Re: [9fans] Google finally announces their lightweight OS

2009-07-09 Thread tlaronde
programs.] -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Google finally announces their lightweight OS

2009-07-10 Thread tlaronde
problem, with lengthy explanations and so on, were only showing that I was beating around the bush and had no clear idea of what I was doing. It was the same with pure C, except it was not as obvious. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com

[9fans] plan 9 interface color ergonomy

2009-07-10 Thread tlaronde
this ergonomy. Has somebody hints? TIA -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] plan 9 interface color ergonomy

2009-07-10 Thread tlaronde
pain, since it must be work... -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] pc with floppy but without cd/dvd

2009-07-26 Thread tlaronde
plan9 uninstallable on a floppy only machine, but impose an external mean to load/bootstrap. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Woes of New Language Support

2009-07-26 Thread tlaronde
, -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] installation on SATYA disk failed

2009-07-26 Thread tlaronde
capabilities of a bootloader you realize, too late, that you are creating another kernel... and it's simpler to use a stripped kernel as the main part of the bootstrap machinery. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7

Re: [9fans] just an idea (Splashtop like)

2009-08-01 Thread tlaronde
! -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread tlaronde
or tracks followed somewhere else.) Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-03 Thread tlaronde
... -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-03 Thread tlaronde
not (including me). Or because they are trying to learn C from another book than KR's. C shall be the test. If you don't even understand C, explained by KR, then do something else. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-05 Thread tlaronde
probably why FORTRAN is still here and has still its strength in this area. Just my 2 centimes, -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-06 Thread tlaronde
and completed in Selected Papers on Computer Languages, Donald E. Knuth, CSLI ISBN 1-57586-382-0 presenting the state and achievement, among many others, of Zuss Plankalkül (followed by Goldstine/von Neumann, Curry, Mauchly etc.). -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

Re: [9fans] linux stats in last year from linuxcon

2009-09-21 Thread tlaronde
to understand the whole (too much, too long) resulting in the impossibility to evolve... -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-27 Thread tlaronde
(Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-27 Thread tlaronde
) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Two suggestions for ape (was: egrep for Plan9)

2009-10-28 Thread tlaronde
of OS dominating, there is a bias. And since, more and more, even in open OSes, there are BLOBs... -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

[9fans] [Announce] CorTeX: the core of TeX

2009-12-16 Thread tlaronde
verifying the current state (if one wants TeX, one must download an ISO DVD...), and verifying that I can have hope to continue using TeX on my own, I put this aside for the moment. Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key

[9fans] TeX for Plan 9: a point

2009-12-22 Thread tlaronde
the task. Next news about this topic for test in January 2010 (end). This will be my Happy new year to the bazaar model... Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006

Re: [9fans] TeX for Plan 9: a point

2009-12-22 Thread tlaronde
. At least for me, I will be free from anybody; I will depend only on my own stuff maintenable (holding in my hand). At the present time, teTeX is orphaned, and there seems to be only TeXlive to download as a huge iso. This is simply crazy! -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot

Re: [9fans] TeX for Plan 9: a point

2009-12-22 Thread tlaronde
here. i have to bind gs from the dump to print pdf. Mind you, I have already cleaned the Augean stables of GRASS. I'm currently (part time with some more involved stuff) cleaning the Augean stables of the distribution of TeX, so... -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

[9fans] TeX for Plan9: late but not dead

2010-01-31 Thread tlaronde
and to be sure I can do). See you later... -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

[9fans] Man pages for add-ons

2010-03-25 Thread tlaronde
namespace? More generally, what is the policy for add-ons? Providing rc(1) fragments to bind the added stuff? Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Man pages for add-ons

2010-03-25 Thread tlaronde
. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Man pages for add-ons

2010-03-25 Thread tlaronde
for duplicated things etc.---, but I'm still cleaning things and going back to Knuth's books to understand what to keep and what to delete in the change files. With one or two hours per day at maximum, this will still take some weeks (I think). -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

Re: [9fans] Man pages for add-ons

2010-03-26 Thread tlaronde
wants. Conclusion: it should be relatively easy for anyone to end with the stuff where one wants. There will be a default: a) If there is some kind of majority. b) If not, conform to where _I_ want to install for my own personal use ;) -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

Re: [9fans] Man pages for add-ons

2010-03-27 Thread tlaronde
is: it will probably not be pure Plan9 at first (for installation); but it should be trivial to adapt to whatever one sees fit, and it will need less time to anyone to adapt than to argue about taste. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key

Re: [9fans] Man pages for add-ons: pax?

2010-03-28 Thread tlaronde
. -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Plan ? (was: native install)

2010-03-30 Thread tlaronde
, you have _inhumanity_ since you have increasing of the entropy that is disorder: order is unnatural, and is the mark of human activity. Open source seems very natural in this sense: the bazaar... -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com

Re: [9fans] Plan ? (was: native install)

2010-03-30 Thread tlaronde
(Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

[9fans] ken-cc, 64 bits machine, and 32 bits integers

2010-03-30 Thread tlaronde
bits architectures? /* shame */ I have only ia32 machines---and single core... and I haven't wandered in the sources either... -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] ken-cc, 64 bits machine, and 32 bits integers

2010-03-30 Thread tlaronde
the printed docs (from Vita Nuova), have read them (some times ago), but probably missed the bits because I was not focused on these details then ;) -- Thierry Laronde (Alceste) tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D

[9fans] TeX: TRIP/TRAP passed so almost here

2010-04-09 Thread tlaronde
the dump to load by looking at argv[0]. Cu soon, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

[9fans] APE notes

2010-04-13 Thread tlaronde
in this case for example). - I have been hit by aux/getflags I think that doesn't like too many arguments (typically a sed(1) with a bunch of -e s/.../.../g). I have simply put the rules in a temporary file, and used sed -f. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

[9fans] APE: a further note.

2010-04-15 Thread tlaronde
he was saying: no! he was right, for things that were going silently under NetBSD. And I like sam(1) too... Regexp and the mouse, that's it! -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D

Re: [9fans] APE: a further note.

2010-04-16 Thread tlaronde
signatures to be emitted. the linker won't link mismatched type signatures. i've found this to be very useful. Thanks: I will add the flags by default in the Plan9 parameter file in my framework. Even if it does not catch all, it will help. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

[9fans] TeX: hurrah!

2010-04-16 Thread tlaronde
I think the web pages and the documentation will be online on monday. I will drop a message when done. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] TeX: hurrah!

2010-04-16 Thread tlaronde
. --- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

[9fans] kerTeX and LaTeX: yes...

2010-04-18 Thread tlaronde
against the current state. Welcome to prog'napping! Welcome to mob programming! 25 years of hassle when it could have been simple. Bazaar vs cathedral? A test case... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF

[9fans] Rounding off by one

2010-04-19 Thread tlaronde
could spare some hours... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Rounding off by one

2010-04-19 Thread tlaronde
will finally be able to publish... Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Rounding off by one

2010-04-19 Thread tlaronde
. Nonetheless, thanks for the tips, guys! but I think I have found: -7 / 2 yields -3 (symetric of 7 / 2, but no guarante from C for negatives) while: -7 1 yields -4 (floor, what is wanted by METAFONT). Uh! -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

[9fans] Integer arithmetic: some lessons

2010-04-21 Thread tlaronde
.] Do people having worked with the compilers (Charles Forsythe for example) can infirm/confirm or make the explanations more complete? Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1

Re: [9fans] Integer arithmetic: some lessons

2010-04-21 Thread tlaronde
and for ken-cc to see where they do not compute the same values. This will narrow the things and assembly, on this, will give clues. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006

Re: [9fans] Integer arithmetic: some lessons

2010-04-22 Thread tlaronde
tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] BUG!!! in Plan9 compiler!

2010-04-22 Thread tlaronde
] ; } lab10: ; } -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] BUG!!! in Plan9 compiler!

2010-04-22 Thread tlaronde
[ bisectptr + 10 ] ; } /* end true */ lab10: ; } -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] BUG!!! in Plan9 compiler!

2010-04-22 Thread tlaronde
). Yielding the correct value in x2, that is then divided (or shifted) by 2, hence signed, and no problem? I say non-sense: even in the assignment, there is still arithmetic conversions: the '+'... I don't get it... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http

Re: [9fans] BUG!!! in Plan9 compiler!

2010-04-23 Thread tlaronde
---more conform to what I expected/the way I interpreted the norm---. You gave a very simple test case for verifying a fix. Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006

[9fans] TeX it!

2010-04-23 Thread tlaronde
Finally (english page): http://www.kergis.com/en/kertex.html and french page: http://www.kergis.com/kertex.html If I have correctly written the doc, enough said... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7

Re: [9fans] TeX it!

2010-04-23 Thread tlaronde
when it should take M_plan9. What gives you (under ape): uname -s? -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] TeX it!

2010-04-23 Thread tlaronde
with: ../risk_comp/.../rkconfig -d 2/tmp/log (You will have to remove /tmp/polynum.KERTEX_M* if it has been created). -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] TeX it!

2010-04-23 Thread tlaronde
for this...;) -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

[9fans] TeX: need feedback

2010-04-26 Thread tlaronde
; but if these are current Web2c, since they redirect to texinfo, it is not a loss, but a gain...) Schedule is dvips(1) in first half of May---I must go back intensively on program-to-get-money-to-be-able-to-eat for now. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http

[9fans] LaTeX: supplementary tips

2010-04-27 Thread tlaronde
is used to enslave people. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] LaTeX: supplementary tips

2010-04-27 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 01:45:14PM +0400, Alexander Sychev wrote: Hello! Thank you! I can't check TeX on Plan9 right now, but I'm going to do this in the nearest future... Can you please add these tips to the corresponding README on kergis.com? Done. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread tlaronde
I was not GNU. And switch to *BSD before asking myself some questions that lead me to Plan9... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-08 Thread tlaronde
for the ones trying to organize these. I was engaged in the first RMLL, and it is for sure work... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-08 Thread tlaronde
, since a nearer but less used spot can increase significantly the travel costs. As said before, since I will unlikely be able to attend, my own living location has not to be taken into account. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com

[9fans] kerTeX and LaTeX: BUG and temp. solution

2010-06-08 Thread tlaronde
is a sh(1) script), for example substituting correct quoting rules ('' and not since rc(1) will take them as is) for the definition of variables. Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89

[9fans] TeX and LaTeX: corrected version

2010-08-19 Thread tlaronde
# english (sort of) Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

[9fans] dvips(1): RFC

2010-08-20 Thread tlaronde
. Are there still ebcdic computers on run that may use dvips(1) ? Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] dvips(1): RFC

2010-08-20 Thread tlaronde
on another o/s will expect to find it. If it is clearly documented, I don't think this is a problem. And since I remove too, in the config file, the 'E' command allowing arbitrary execution of commands via system(3), at least it will be clear that something changed. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde

Re: [9fans] dvips(1): RFC

2010-08-20 Thread tlaronde
employer as a psychorigid since I say (harshly) far more often: no! than yes, and remove more easily than I add... (starting by removing great ideas even before starting to implement them...). So kerTeX will probably never be very popular. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

Re: [9fans] dvips(1): RFC

2010-08-20 Thread tlaronde
of the dumber of the group---because hidden in the community, without responsability and protected by anonymity, individuals can dare things that they will never do if they can be identified. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key

Re: [9fans] fOSSa

2010-10-25 Thread tlaronde
this phenomenon as a new social paradigm. Sigh... And this is with our money... But as soon as I read: INRIA, I knew. There is so much to be done, and so few to do. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF

Re: [9fans] fOSSa

2010-10-26 Thread tlaronde
. But in a structure whose dedication is artificial intelligence with arithmetic means (computers) but without demonstrating first what is wrong or limited in Gödel and Turing results... At least they can claim searching and justify not finding... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum

[9fans] dvips(1) for Plan9: done

2010-11-09 Thread tlaronde
Tomas Rokicki's manual, included in source form in the KerTeX distribution. --8 Enjoy! (Well, I hope...) -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] dvips(1) for Plan9: done

2010-11-09 Thread tlaronde
And I have forgotten the links: http://www.kergis.com/kertex.html (français) http://www.kergis.com/en/kertex.html (laronde's pseudo-english) -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D

Re: [9fans] dvips(1) for Plan9: done

2010-11-09 Thread tlaronde
), it should work just adjusting the definition of the environment variables for the paths (or putting the stuff where kerTeX expects them by default to be). Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95

[9fans] MetaPost and troff

2010-11-11 Thread tlaronde
if the package is called kerTeX, I will _keep_ the troff hability. (This means that mp(1) and dvips(1) can be used also by people using troff(1) as their main typesetting system). -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint

Re: [9fans] p9p factotum available for plan 9

2010-11-13 Thread tlaronde
the numbers are fixed from start. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] another type of static linking: send all the shared libraries with the program!

2010-11-13 Thread tlaronde
today to statically link a program depending on X11. Hence, this solution needed to solve a problem created (I tried to statically link an app depending only on X11 and motif. Hell !...[and failure]). -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-14 Thread tlaronde
to be hold in on hand. Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C pgp9Edbira02h.pgp Description: PGP signature

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