Re: [9fans] plan9port acme imageinit: can't open font

2022-03-09 Thread Blake McBride
Thanks for the pointers. I tried them and it didn't help. I suppose I'll move on without acme. If anyone is ever interested in taking a look at this, you can see from my original post what I am running. Thanks. Blake On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 10:26 AM Lucio De Re wrote: > You nay have to

[9fans] plan9port acme imageinit: can't open font

2022-03-03 Thread Blake McBride
Greetings, I am running Plan9port on Fedora 35. When I run acme as root, it runs fine. However, when I try to run it as a regular user, I get: $ acme imageinit: can't open font /mnt/font/Courier/12a/font: 0��� acme: can't open display: 0��� $ Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Blake

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

2014-08-20 Thread Blake McBride
click put etc) Thoughts? On 19 Aug 2014 21:40, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: B 'some directory name with spaces' does load the directory correctly. But as soon as you put the cursor into the directory acme changes the buffer header from some directory name with spaces to some

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

2014-08-19 Thread Blake McBride
B 'some directory name with spaces' does load the directory correctly. But as soon as you put the cursor into the directory acme changes the buffer header from some directory name with spaces to some. Not supporting space in file/directory names has been the single biggest impediment to my use

[9fans] p9p on 64 bit Linux

2014-03-03 Thread Blake McBride
.1 ./x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 ./x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so I think it may be looking for 32 bit shared libraries. I am not sure how things are getting built on a 64 bit environment. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-23 Thread Blake McBride
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.com wrote: Hello ! From - https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/admin Adding Users Add a new user on the file server: echo newuser username /srv/cwfs.cmd The newuser filesystem command is described in the

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-23 Thread Blake McBride
Amazing how something so simple could stump someone. Thanks! On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/23/2013 04:59 PM, Blake McBride wrote: BTW, how do I abort a command such as the cat /dev/kpeint? I tried ^c, ^d. ^\. Nothing worked

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-23 Thread Blake McBride
Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.comwrote: Hello ! From - https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/admin Adding Users Add a new user on the file server: echo newuser username /srv/cwfs.cmd The newuser filesystem command

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-23 Thread Blake McBride
Or perhaps: echo newuser USER-NAME /srv/cwfs.cmd replace USER-NAME with the new user's name. If most commands are in lowercase, it might make sense to use uppercase names as things that need to be specified. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: It works

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-23 Thread Blake McBride
Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name: Or perhaps: echo newuser USER-NAME /srv/cwfs.cmd replace USER-NAME with the new user's name. If most commands are in lowercase, it might make sense to use uppercase names as things that need to be specified. Or perhaps we use the documentation as a way

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-23 Thread Blake McBride
understand when interacting with them, just the other day dove into acme's source to answer a question in #plan9 (about what the Abort command does.) Ruben On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Documentation is always clear to people who already know the material

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-23 Thread Blake McBride
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote: ... Speaking of assumptions, I'm not convinced 'increasing the number of users' does anyone any good. It didn't help Windows any. khm Although number of users may not translate into a quality system (Microsoft is a

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-23 Thread Blake McBride
I am having trouble with that link. Is it correct? Thanks. Blake On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:11 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Thu Dec 19 20:54:04 EST 2013, conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote: ack, thanks... On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM, erik quanstrom

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-23 Thread Blake McBride
Thanks for the new boot trial. I am still getting an error on my HP as follows: ehci . qh . timed out (no inter?) It did boot but I am getting those errors on the screen. Please let me know if more info would be helpful. Hope this helps. Thanks! Blake On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:03

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-23 Thread Blake McBride
Hope my feedback is a help. I'm ready to try more whenever you are. Thanks! Blake On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:30 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Mon Dec 23 22:14:10 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Thanks for the new boot trial. I am still getting an error on my HP

[9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Greetings, I installed 9Front on an old Dell Inspiron 5100. It seems to run fine. While installing it, it asked for dial-up numbers. Since the machine has an ethernet card I just typed in random info to get past the prompts. Now that it is running, I can't seem to get access to the ethernet

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
1.0.0: vid 03.00.00 1002/4c57 11 0:e808 134217728 1:c001 256 2:fcff 65536 Thanks! On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: what network card is in that machine? run the pci command and tell us the vid/did. -- cinap

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Sorry. 2.1.0 net 02.00.00 14e4/4401 11 0:faffe000 8192 On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:48 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: thats your graphics card (some radeon). i need the ethernet cad. pci | grep net -- cinap

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Okay, thanks! It is an ancient machine. Thought it would be a good place to play with it on. No sense in messing with it further. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Sun Dec 22 14:56:12 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Sorry. 2.1.0 net

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Just for grins, without a network card, how can I mount/read/write to a DOS formatted USB drive? Thanks. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: Okay, thanks! It is an ancient machine. Thought it would be a good place to play with it on. No sense in

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Thanks. I am using 9front on that machine. On /shr I have: d usb d usbnet Under /shr/usb I have: d sdU6.0 - usbevent Under /shr/usb/sdU6.0 I have: - ctl - data - raw Under /dev/sdU6.0 I also have: - ctl - data - raw I don't know what to do from

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Thanks. I freshly formatted the drive with a DOS partition and put some files on it for testing. It reads fine on another machine. When I issued your command I got: part dos 63 31301613 Also, where is a good place to read about formatting, mounting, accessing, flushing, and unmounting?

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:03 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: thats strange. when you plug in the drive, the nusbrc script started the usb disk filesystem and run that fdisk command to register the partitions. for some reason, the partitions step failed. but when you run it manually later

[9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Greetings, I've searched the net to find a way to add a new user. The following command doesn't work: con -l /srv/fscons I gather that command is for fossil, and fossil isn't used anymore. I poked around /srv but couldn't find a substitute. Appreciate any help. Blake

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:03 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: the drive might be sensitive to the timing? can you pull

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
I use ASCII. Take your pick on how I display the three. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 9:37 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.comwrote: While you're at it; is it 9-Front (as Andrey said above) and 9-Atom? So, space with Plan 9 and dash with the other two? both 9᠎Front and 9᠎Atom use

[9fans] 9Atom boot issue

2013-12-21 Thread Blake McBride
in the feedback. Thanks. Blake McBride

[9fans] New release of Dynace on Plan-9

2013-12-20 Thread Blake McBride
Blake McBride (P.S. please make sure you get release 20131220 - in case you are seeing an old, cached web page.)

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: to be more explicit. if a is built from b and mtime(a) = mtime(b), then mk could fail to rebuild a when it needs to. for correctness, mk must use = not . I was thinking about the problem and actually, at least

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:16 AM, dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.comwrote: the problem is not solved, merely one of the manifestation is eliminated. actual solution requires stating all the dependencies. if your list of sources and/or targets is dynamic, consider using mkinclude: |

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Tristan 9p...@imu.li wrote: I for one favor practical usefulness over theoretical correctness. An environment variable option would trivially satisfy both groups. It could operate as-is so nothing pre-existing would be affected. how long does it take

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
Yea, got that. I just thought it made sense for a wider audience. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: No one is stopping you from changing it in your installation. On Dec 19, 2013 11:38 AM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Tristan 9p...@imu.li wrote: how long does it take you to run mk, and then realise you didn't Put your last set of changes? i once changed mk on my local machine to act as you suggest, and then took far too long trying to figure out why the program's

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:07 AM, a...@9srv.net wrote: // If you are working on a project, edit some files, and then // perform a mk, if files you haven't changed get built, I for // one would constantly question myself, about whether or // not I changed that file. It would make things

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote: Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name: What I am beginning to understand from comments like this is that there is a club Plan-9. Everything ever done by the originators of club Plan-9 is correct, period. No mater

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: You can change anything you want on your system; but don't try to ram it down others' throats unless you can prove that you're approach is (a) correct (b) meets the collective sense elegance. Reasoned

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, On 19 December 2013 20:22, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Agreed. I enjoy reasoned debate. I don't enjoy being told the reason is because that's the way we do it. That is not reasoned debate

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.comwrote: What I am beginning to understand from comments like this is that there is a club Plan-9. Everything ever done by the originators of club Plan-9 is correct, period. No mater what exceptions, special cases, or

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote: Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name: There is a difference between valid arguments and club allegiance. You have not demonstrated a necessity for anyone subscribed to this list to give a particular shit about which

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Blake McBride
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: I see your point but would argue (in the most friendly way) that the case you point out would be extremely rare, while the reverse case is very common. Correctness (in the context of software engineering) doesn't

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

2013-12-18 Thread Blake McBride
Thanks for the help! See below: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:37 AM, dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.comwrote: On Wednesday 18 of December 2013 09:23:19 Blake McBride wrote: Problem 1: it seems you have an un-stated dependency/cies among your intermediate targets / prerequisites

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

2013-12-18 Thread Blake McBride
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Problem 3: Somehow Unix or GNU make doesn't mix up buffered stdout with unbuffered stderr output. They remain in order so the total out of make and all of the commands are shown in order and in context. You know, so

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

2013-12-18 Thread Blake McBride
This is not D. It is a language of my own design called Dynace. It adds multiple inheritance, a metaobject protocol, generic functions, weak typing, garbage collection all to standard C. Class users (*.c files) are standard C in every way, there is only one data type added. The system is

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

2013-12-18 Thread Blake McBride
AM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:11:22 CST Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Somehow Unix or GNU make doesn't mix up buffered stdout with unbuffered stderr output. They remain in order so the total out of make and all of the commands are shown

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

2013-12-18 Thread Blake McBride
In response to both of you: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: ... I remain confident that there is a thought out, reasonable algorithm employed by mk that I am yet ignorant of. Blake If you could point me in the right direction, I'd surely

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

2013-12-18 Thread Blake McBride
In particular, why would manual execution while echoing $status (to be sure no errors are reported) work, but mk execution of the exact same sequence not work? Thanks! Blake On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: In response to both of you: On Wed, Dec

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

2013-12-18 Thread Blake McBride
The problem is solved, but I do have questions that I couldn't the answer to in any of the docs. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:37 AM, dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.comwrote: -s won't help you there, because it regards processing of /command line/ arguments, not of prerequisites. consider:

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

2013-12-18 Thread Blake McBride
Thanks. That is what I was wondering. In the interim, and having a better understanding of what is going on, I was able to re-work my mkfile to support parallel builds where possible. I am, however, experiencing a new problem. I will write that up in a separate post. Thank for the info!

[9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-18 Thread Blake McBride
Greetings, I apologize for beating the heck out of the group. I admit that some of my questions are premature. I appreciate everyones help. I have a better handle on what is going on, and with that knowledge, I was able to restructure the mkfile to work correctly in parallel. I am

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-18 Thread Blake McBride
Thanks for the encouragement. I'll move into other areas soon. I'll try to do as much research as possible before posting. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 17:01, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: I apologize for beating

Re: [9fans] 9front pegs CPU on VMware

2013-12-16 Thread Blake McBride
I am running a dual core setup. CPU info is: vendor GenuineIntel procmodel 00020655 / 00010800 features fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat features pse36 clflush dts mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss features pni pclmulqdq ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes hypervisor

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-16 Thread Blake McBride
renewing a port of an OO language extension to it. Blake On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Oleksandr Iakovliev yshu...@lynxline.comwrote: On 2013-12-15 18:05 , Blake McBride wrote: In spite of some really great ideas, I think we'd all agree that Plan-9 has no real future. I would not agree

Re: [9fans] Spell checking with acme in p9p

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Rubén Berenguel ru...@mostlymaths.netwrote: By the way, do you know about 1-2 chords, don't you? For some of these tasks it may be useful. I have only a vague notion of chords at this point. I have two button mouse. I simulate the button-2 with

Re: [9fans] Can't start multiple copies of acme

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
I checked. The following shell script does the trick: # mkdir /tmp/acme-$$ NAMESPACE=/tmp/acme-$$ acme $@ On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, User ho...@awesom.eu wrote: you may change $NAMESPACE, cf. intro(4) % mkdir /tmp/foo; NAMESPACE=/tmp/foo acme

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
Discovering button-3-drag, is there a reason button-3-drag could not be made to load a file or directory with spaces in it? In other words, would this conflict with some other intended operation? Thanks. Blake On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: When

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
that file yet: 9p read plumb/rules $HOME/lib/plumbing ~Fritz Am 15.12.2013 16:25, schrieb Blake McBride: Discovering button-3-drag, is there a reason button-3-drag could not be made to load a file or directory with spaces in it? In other words, would this conflict with some other

Re: [9fans] Can't start multiple copies of acme

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:00 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Sun Dec 15 10:23:13 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote: I checked. The following shell script does the trick: # mkdir /tmp/acme-$$ NAMESPACE=/tmp/acme-$$ acme $@ this is swimming up stream. acme's

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
the hard coded backup behavior. Am 15.12.2013 17:19, schrieb Blake McBride: Blake-Mac-17:tmp blake$ 9p read plumb/rules 9p: mount: dial unix!/tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb: connect /tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb: No such file I don't have to do this when I

[9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
those ideas in an ideal environment. Just like what Smalltalk did to the world - creating C++, Java, the mouse, etc., Plan-9 can bring its ideas to the mainstream through additions and improvements to existing technology like Linux. Just some thoughts. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] Can't start multiple copies of acme

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
As I am sure you would agree, a lot of real, interesting, important, and valuable work gets done on POSIX systems. I'm sure we'd all agree that Plan-9 adds important ideas to those already present in POSIX. While some of the implementation specifics of Plan-9 may be hard to bold onto a POSIX

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
than trying to convince LKML folks that they need userlevel namespaces. People already tried this. 2013/12/15 Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:55 AM, trebol trebol55...@aol.com wrote: . The lack of a web browser capable of deal with today's madness

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
The plumber (when running) is there to find out, if there is a special action to perform, and then do it. Read the paper Plumbing and other utilities to get more details. ~Fritz Am 15.12.2013 17:38, schrieb Blake McBride: I would greatly appreciate it if you could give me the specifics

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
Couldn't agree more. On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Keith orangecal...@gmail.com wrote: Who here remembers/knows of the vision for the apple newton? The iPad realized it when the technology was able and the time was right. Who is to say the same couldn't be said for 9?

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
: On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:05:53AM -0600, Blake McBride wrote: In spite of some really great ideas, I think we'd all agree that Plan-9 has no real future. On the other hand, I believe that some of the best ideas Plan-9 brings us can and should be a part of the future. I think the best, most

[9fans] Acme: tab size

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
Greetings, I noticed tab size on sam is 8 characters. This is somewhat standard. Acme uses 4 (which is perhaps more reasonable in many circumstances). How can one control the tab size on acme? Thanks. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
Linux, android, Windows, and iOS all reached a critical mass in terms of programmer and end-user apps in order to survive. Plan-9 did not. A quality web browser on Plan-9 is critical to its usefullness by many. But this is just one major piece among many. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:18 PM,

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
major piece among many can be more precisely stated as many pieces among many in order for the platform to achieve a critical mass of users. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: But this is just one major piece among many. Perhaps for you but not for me,

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Lee Fallat ircsurfe...@gmail.com wrote: ...Tell that to the people who are maintaining 9front and 9atom. I wasn't aware of those two. Thanks!

[9fans] 9front vs. 9atom

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
installed everywhere I tried but the graphics stuff didn't work.) I briefly looked at 9front and 9atom. I thought I would query this group about the two. Is one better maintained than the other? Does one have better hardware support than the other? Thanks for the help. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] 9front vs. 9atom

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
Thank you, Tristan. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Tristan 9p...@imu.li wrote: Quoting Kurt... Is one better maintained than the other? Yes. 9atom. Does one have better hardware support than the other? Yes. 9front. khm tristan -- All original matter is hereby placed

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Bence Fábián beg...@gmail.com wrote: This whole discussion has devolved into all the exact same discussions when someone comes to save us from ourselves. If you are too lazy to look into the archives at least read this: http://jfloren.net/b/2012/4/27/0 Yes,

Re: [9fans] 9front vs. 9atom

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
Will do. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:37 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: I briefly looked at 9front and 9atom. I thought I would query this group about the two. Is one better maintained than the other? Does one have better hardware support than the other? i'd appreciate

[9fans] Compiling C under 9front

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
Greetings, I've got 9front running but I am having trouble compiling a hello.c program. term% 6c hello.c term% 6l hello.6 ??none??: cannot open file: /amd64/lib/libc.a I already looked in google, the email list, and FAQ's that I could find. Your help is appreciated. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] Compiling C under 9front

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 7:33 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.comwrote: On Sun Dec 15 20:31:47 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Greetings, I've got 9front running but I am having trouble compiling a hello.c program. term% 6c hello.c term% 6l hello.6 ??none??: cannot

[9fans] 9front pegs CPU on VMware

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
Greetings, I am running 9plan on VMware Fusion successfully, however, the CPU is pegged. I've seen this before with DOS. Basically the OS has its own idle loop so VMware sees it as always using CPU. There is a patch to fix this issue with a DOS guest. Any ideas with 9front? Thanks. Blake

Re: [9fans] 9front pegs CPU on VMware

2013-12-15 Thread Blake McBride
Good point. I can't. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 8:58 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.comwrote: welcome to the club. now do the same thing with linux. and try to regale your experience in less than 4 blogposts :)

[9fans] Acme: single quotes and hyphens

2013-12-14 Thread Blake McBride
byte?) character. I understand unicode but I am American-English. My compiler and spell checker expect single byte, standard ASCII codes for dash and single quotes. I absolutely can't use acme like this. I am using the standard font. Is there a way for me to correct this behavior? Thanks. Blake

Re: [9fans] Acme: single quotes and hyphens

2013-12-14 Thread Blake McBride
Fábián beg...@gmail.com wrote: It's your keyboard layout. acme does no such thing to my knowledge. Also it has nothing to do with the font. I assume you use p9p acme on Mac OS X based on your last letter. So I can't help you more. 2013/12/14 Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name Greetings, While

Re: [9fans] Acme: single quotes and hyphens

2013-12-14 Thread Blake McBride
fmt works fine. Thanks. BTW, besides 'Edit ,', is there an easier way to select an entire file (to send to a program)? Thanks again. On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Bence Fábián beg...@gmail.com wrote: No problem. Use |fmt to word wrap. nroff does much more. 2013/12/14 Blake McBride bl

[9fans] Can't start multiple copies of acme

2013-12-13 Thread Blake McBride
an additional copy of acme to edit that one file and then go back to my untouched development environment. (I know about dump/load. That is very useful, and I use it. But I don't want to go through all those extra steps in a quick edit situation.) Thanks. Blake McBride

[9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
current functionality. Any thoughts on this? Thanks. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
I checked. fontsrv didn't compile. I'm sure I can get it to compile but I don't see the point. Acme comes up, I can change fonts, etc.. What will fontsrv buy me? Incidentally, when I look on the net at picture or videos of acme, the fonts they show on all of those are pixilated too. See:

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
://vimeo.com/64487176 The slight pixelation comes from the video compression. The font is Monaco, on my old Macbook How are you exactly changing fonts, though? On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: I checked. fontsrv didn't compile. I'm sure I can get

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: I'm sure I can get it to compile but I don't see the point. The point is that fontsrv allows p9p programs (including acme) to use whatever true-type

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
is working or the 9p ls font wouldn't work. How can I access the font from acme? Thanks. Blake On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Blake McBride bl

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
the first reply in this thread On Wednesday, December 11, 2013, Blake McBride wrote: Okay. I build and installed fontsrv. I have it running. Now when I do: 9p ls font it lists all the fonts on my system. One of them is Courier. From acme, I tried: Font Courier But that doesn't

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
Sorry again. Re-read first post. I forgot the 12a/font part since it wasn't displayed in the ls. Now it works as I had hoped. This totally answers my question. Thank you all! Blake On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: I see. Sorry. I tried two

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: How can I access the font from acme? See the EXAMPLES section of the fontsrv(1) manpage.

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

2013-12-11 Thread Blake McBride
Figured it out. export font=/mnt/font/Courier/12a/font sam On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Interesting. On the bottom it says fontsrv has no support for X11. Is there a way to use the fonts that come with Linux? Another question. Is there a way