Re: [9fans] plan9port rendering garbled

2016-08-30 Thread Eris Discordia
Look into hinting and subpixel hinting modes of Freetype2. For different people different combinations of modes (full, medium, slight, none for hinting; 0/1/2 for subpixel hinting) give optimal results. Hinting is usually set via symlinks under /etc/fonts/conf.d/ to what's available under

Re: [9fans] OT: What linux has become

2014-08-12 Thread Eris Discordia
That's mainly interpersonal politics. Poettering probably pounded him too hard one time. He isn't giving a technical refutation of systemd and that's actually very well possible. Why shouldn't someone turn the ranter to LFS instead? Someone with 20 years of so-called loyalty and evangelism

Re: [9fans] Small 9pcram update

2013-03-20 Thread Eris Discordia
It's ccTLD for South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. Of course, that's a fancy domain he is using. Tempted to reserve ho.gs and clo.gs. On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 11:40 +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: [Postscript: Sorry for the paid placements. Bandwidth costs money.] I kinda like

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on VIA C7

2011-07-09 Thread Eris Discordia
for that SoC is quite mature, too. --On Friday, July 08, 2011 21:13 -0700 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: If given a choice I'd go with something that does not generate the heat in the first place. agree. Get

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on VIA C7

2011-07-08 Thread Eris Discordia
Despite being touted as fanless and most C7-based boards being equipped only with heatsinks they get hot as hell. Right now I'm experimenting on a board (custom form factor) built around VIA Eden 1.2 GHz, CX700 chipset, with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE (1 GB RAM, 8 GB IDE SSD, networked, and an

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on VIA C7

2011-07-08 Thread Eris Discordia
Very good point. And, an extremely tempting experiment you have introduced me/us to out of your mighty rucksack. Could prove to be the downfall of me, buying a few more PC-104 (don't need be PC-104+, right?) Geode boards (I already got one based on LX 800). Thank you :-) Then, even without

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug catatonic

2011-01-16 Thread Eris Discordia
Is it configured to use a serial console? Tried checking the output there? What's the output from uBoot, if any? As a last resort, tried re-flashing it over JTAG? --On Saturday, January 15, 2011 15:09 -0500 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: has anyone else had a sheevaplug go

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug catatonic

2011-01-16 Thread Eris Discordia
no output from uboot at all. no output of any kind. Assuming it isn't hardware death the only option I can see is re-flashing. i haven't cracked the case. does anyone know if there's a jtag port at all in a sheevaplug? Even if there's no ready-to-use JTAG port on the board on the PCB

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug catatonic

2011-01-16 Thread Eris Discordia
Another possibility -- the omap on chip firmware will use SD-based uboot image if it finds it, instead of flash. If the plug plays by the same rules, you might be able to put a known-good u-boot on an SD and use that image. Marvell chips lack that. TI and Samsung were a tad more thoughtful.

Re: [9fans] Google code-in?

2010-11-12 Thread Eris Discordia
The compound 'code-in' follows the pattern of 'be-in' as in 'Human be-in.' You can google that. --On Friday, November 05, 2010 15:23 -0400 Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: Code-in? Could you elaborate? On Nov 5, 2010 1:22 PM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: Google just announced a

Re: [9fans] quote o' the day

2010-03-28 Thread Eris Discordia
In fact, we have both printed on paper hanging from the wall of the corridor near our office. Let's hope they learn. Learn to... 1. ... not comment their code? 2. ... not include usage instructions? 3. ... not heed that their code might need to compile on any one of a number of platforms

Re: [9fans] pppoe on Plan 9

2010-02-22 Thread Eris Discordia
The IP address is probably that of the service provider's DNS server, for use on machines other than the one that establishes the PPPoE connection. --On Monday, February 22, 2010 10:02 -0800 Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: I got a username, a password, and an IP address from the Internet

Re: [9fans] dataflow programming from shell interpreter

2010-01-22 Thread Eris Discordia
i don't think a direct mapping of COM to Plan 9 fs model is unnecessary. for example, instead of mapping every control or configuration interface and method to synthetic directories and files, a single ctl file will do. It didn't occur to me at all that anyone would want to implement

Re: [9fans] dataflow programming from shell interpreter

2010-01-20 Thread Eris Discordia
Aren't DirectShow filter graphs and programs like GraphStudio/GraphEdit one possible answer to the video processing question? Filter graphs can be generated by any program, GUI or CLI, and fed to DirectShow provided one learns the in and out of generating them. The OP's question, too, finds

Re: [9fans] grëp (rhymes with creep) and cptmp

2009-11-30 Thread Eris Discordia
$ time grëp Obergruppenfuhrersaal * Touché :-) --On Monday, November 30, 2009 01:52 -0600 Jason Catena jason.cat...@gmail.com wrote: hey, this is great stuff!  i really like the approach. Thank you. It evolved from wanting to cut-and-paste character classes, to automatically applying

Re: [9fans] Go

2009-11-11 Thread Eris Discordia
arabic numeral 9 is very close: ۹ Puny pedantry: that's a(n) Hindi/Indic numeral. 9 is already an Arabic numeral. If playing on numerals is allowed why shouldn't they call it IXgo or even Kyuugo? --On Tuesday, November 10, 2009 22:47 -0800 Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote:

Re: [9fans] Pictures from IWP9?

2009-11-07 Thread Eris Discordia
/Stoddard_race_map_1920.jpg --On Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:54 + Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:41:35 +, Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com said: Ah, bad middle-eastern humour. :} I haven't heard any of this since my father passed

Re: [9fans] Pictures from IWP9?

2009-11-05 Thread Eris Discordia
Ah, bad middle-eastern humour. :} I haven't heard any of this since my father passed away. ;) When exactly did India subscribe to the Mideast mailing list? --On Thursday, November 05, 2009 16:48 + Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:35:08 GMT,

Re: [9fans] Announcing ninefs for win32

2009-11-05 Thread Eris Discordia
'dokan /i a' fails to install the (kernel mode) driver but succeeds in installing the mounter service. There's a build of Dokan for Vista x64 but none for XP x64. Thanks for the tip. I won't post here on this matter anymore (unless I find a definite solution in which case I'll post a succinct

Re: [9fans] sed question (OT)

2009-10-30 Thread Eris Discordia
The script has a small bug one might say: it capitalizes the first two words on a line that are _not_ already capitalized. If one of the first two words is capitalized then the third will get capitalized. --On Thursday, October 29, 2009 15:41 + Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote:

Re: [9fans] sed question (OT)

2009-10-30 Thread Eris Discordia
Listing of file 'sedscr:' s/^/ /; s/$/aAbBcCdDeEfFgGhHiIjJkKlLmMnNoOpPqQrRsStTuUvVwWxXyYzZ/; s/ \([a-z]\)\(.*\1\)\(.\)/ \3\2\3/; s/ \([a-z]\)\(.*\1\)\(.\)/ \3\2\3/; s/.\{52\}$//; s/ //; $ echo This is a test | sed -f sedscr This Is a test $ echo someone forgot to capitalize | sed -f sedscr

Re: [9fans] go to this site

2009-10-27 Thread Eris Discordia
I was curious (not that I had any hope of understanding what's going on) so I visited the place. I got this: HTTP/1.0 500 Internal Server Error Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:58:31 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.11 (Debian) PHP/5.2.6-0.1+b1 with Suhosin-Patch mod_python 3.3.1 Python/2.5.2 mod_wsgi/2.3

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

2009-09-21 Thread Eris Discordia
What I haven't found is a decent, no frills, sata/e-sata enclosure for a home system. Depending on where you are, where you can purchase from, and how much you want to pay you may be able to get yourself ICY DOCK or Chieftec enclosures that fit the description. ICY DOCK's 5-bay enclosure

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

2009-09-21 Thread Eris Discordia
. The 7200s have an MTBF of around 0.75 million hours in contrast to RE4s with 1.0-million-hour MTBF. --On Tuesday, September 22, 2009 00:35 +0100 Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: What I haven't found is a decent, no frills, sata/e-sata enclosure for a home system. Depending

Re: [9fans] Simplified Chinese plan 9

2009-09-14 Thread Eris Discordia
I've been, for the time being, officially p9-gagged due to core-dumping on the list. But thanks anyway for the information. And yes, the Latin alphabet does function. --On Monday, September 14, 2009 09:33 + Paul Donnelly paul-donne...@sbcglobal.net wrote: eris.discor...@gmail.com (Eris

Re: [9fans] Simplified Chinese plan 9

2009-09-12 Thread Eris Discordia
i believe this distinction between natural and artificial languages is, uh, arbitrary. Well, I don't think this is true. The distinction is strong enough for everyone to be able to immediately tell apart a language from a non-language. Actually, I think the term artificial language is kind of

Re: [9fans] Simplified Chinese plan 9

2009-09-12 Thread Eris Discordia
i think you need to read some chaucer. you are the boiling frog in a pot of words. English isn't my native tongue. It's a bit too much to expect me to read 14th century stuff only to understand what probably amounts to an affront. You tell me what is the boiling frog in a pot of words.

Re: [9fans] Simplified Chinese plan 9

2009-09-11 Thread Eris Discordia
Maybe it makes a sence to make something like this in Plan9 (an analog kbmap) for typing complex symbols like an hieroglyph ? Your method is in essence what Microsoft's IME on Windows and various IMEs on UNIX-likes (such as SCUM) use. However, an IME for inputting from a list of over twenty

Re: [9fans] Simplified Chinese plan 9

2009-09-11 Thread Eris Discordia
anyway, the general idea is that it can compose kanji from strings of hiragana. it's also been used for other languages (although my memory of that says it was mostly for the transliteration function, rather than the compositing function). is it possible to do something similar for the hanzi,

Re: [9fans] Simplified Chinese plan 9

2009-09-11 Thread Eris Discordia
http://thinkzone.wlonk.com/Language/Korean.htm Interesting. I used to think Korean, too, uses a syllabary. Turns out it's expressed alphabetically. Expressing Japanese that way would create some space for confusion as there are certain sounds that never combine with certain other sounds,

Re: [9fans] Simplified Chinese plan 9

2009-09-11 Thread Eris Discordia
lots of romance languages have exactly that characteristic, though (maybe other languages, too). see C and G in italian. ci is simply pronounced correctly as chi. That's true but isn't exactly the same thing. Irregularly pronounced combinations are still valid combinations. I'd say the

Re: [9fans] Simplified Chinese plan 9

2009-09-11 Thread Eris Discordia
your first problem was whether japanese would have some sort of new or unique problem with an alphabet given the absence of certain syllables (like shi) from the language. the answer is, of course, no: the language would fall into either of the two extant conventions for dealing with the

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

2009-09-08 Thread Eris Discordia
Thanks. Erik Quanstrom, too, posted a link to that page, although it wasn't in HTML. --On Monday, September 07, 2009 22:02 +0200 Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Eris Discordiaeris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: if you have quanstro/sd installed, sdorion(3)

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-07 Thread Eris Discordia
This thread has grown into a particularly educational one, for me at least, thanks to everyone who posted. Vinu Rajashekhar's two posts were strictly to the point. There _is_ a mental model of the small computer to teach along with Scheme and there are ways to get close to the machine from

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-06 Thread Eris Discordia
in fact, none of the things we take for granted --- e.g., binary, digital, stack-based, etc. --- were immediately obvious. and it might be that we've got these thing that we know wrong yet. I don't think we are actually in disagreement here. I have no objections to your assertion. However,

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-06 Thread Eris Discordia
There's a talk Doug McIllroy gave where he joked about how he basically invented (or rather, discovered) recursion because someone said ``Hey, what would happen if we made a FORTRAN routine call itself?'' IIRC he had to tinker with the compiler to get it to accept the idea, and at first, no one

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-06 Thread Eris Discordia
In this respect rating the expressive power of C versus LISP depends very much on the problem domain under discussion. Of course. I pointed out in my first post on the thread that [...] for a person of my (low) caliber, LISP is neither suited to the family of problems I encounter nor suited

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-06 Thread Eris Discordia
Thanks for the first-hand account :-) Don't be Whiggish in your understanding of history. Its participants did not know their way. Given your original narrative I really can't argue. Maybe, as you note, I'm wrongly assuming everyone knew a significant part of that which had come before

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-05 Thread Eris Discordia
PM, Eris Discordia wrote: Above says precisely why I did. LISP is twofold hurtful for me as a naive, below average hobbyist. FYI, it's been Lisp for a while. For one thing the language constructs do not reflect the small computer primitives I was taught somewhere around the beginning of my

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-05 Thread Eris Discordia
One serious question today would be: what's LISP _really_ good for? http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html I could do a similar thing: http://www.schnada.de/quotes/contempt.html#struetics ... and leave you wondering (or not). I won't. Paul Graham's essay/article consists of a success story,

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-05 Thread Eris Discordia
I forgot this: Graham basically accuses programmers who don't find LISP as attractive (or powerful, as he puts it) as he does of living on lower planes of existence from which the heavens above of functional (or only LISP) programming seem incomprehensible. He writes/speaks persuasively, he's

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-05 Thread Eris Discordia
general-purpose language good for system programming--you seem to call that being a good OS language-- I take this part back. I mixed your post with Jason Catena's for a moment. --On Saturday, September 05, 2009 15:14 +0100 Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: Let me be a little

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-05 Thread Eris Discordia
Oh, yay, a Xah Lee quote, he's surely a trusted source on all things Lisp. Didja read his page about hiring a prostitute in Las Vegas? Or the one about how he lives in a car in the Bay Area because he's too crazy to get hired? Patience, brother. Search Paul Graham on that page and let your mind

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-05 Thread Eris Discordia
I forgot this: Graham basically accuses programmers who don't find LISP as attractive (or powerful, as he puts it) as he does of living on lower planes of existence from which the heavens above of functional (or only LISP) programming seem incomprehensible. He writes/speaks persuasively, he's

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-05 Thread Eris Discordia
so you're saying that the table in this section is wrong? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer#History_of_computing if it is and you can back it up, i sugeest you fix wikipedia. It isn't wrong. The exact wording from The First Computers: History and Architectures goes: The instruction

Re: [9fans] scheme plan 9

2009-09-04 Thread Eris Discordia
). I downloaded the excerpt in MOV and watched it. --On Thursday, September 03, 2009 08:57 -0700 Bakul Shah bakul+pl...@bitblocks.com wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:29:53 BST Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: I mean, I never got past SICP Chapter 1 because that first chapter got

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

2009-09-04 Thread Eris Discordia
- a hot swap case with ses-2 lights so the tech doesn't grab the wrong drive, This caught my attention and you are the storage expert here. Is there an equivalent technology on SATA disks for controlling enclosure facilities? (Other than SMART, I mean, which seems to be only for monitoring

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

2009-09-04 Thread Eris Discordia
Many thanks for the info :-) if there's a single dual-duty led maybe this is the problem. how many sepearte led packages do you have? There's one multi-color (3-prong) LED responsible for this. Nominally, green should mean drive running and okay, alternating red should mean transfer, and

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

2009-09-04 Thread Eris Discordia
there's a standard for this red fail orange locate green activity maybe you're enclosure's not standard. That may be the case as it's really sort of a cheap hack: Chieftec SNT-2131. A 3-in-2 solution for use in 5.25 bays of desktop computer cases. I hear ICY DOCK has better offers but

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-04 Thread Eris Discordia
Caveat: please add IMH(UI)O in front of any assertion that comes below. Since education was brought up: I remember I found it seriously twisted when I was told mathematics freshmen in a top-notch university not (geographically) far from me are taught not one but two courses in computer

Re: [9fans] scheme plan 9

2009-09-03 Thread Eris Discordia
bakul+pl...@bitblocks.com wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:32:53 BST Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: Although, you may be better off reading SICP as intended, and use MIT Scheme on either Windows or a *NIX. The book (and the freaking language) is already hard/unusual enough for one

Re: [9fans] scheme plan 9

2009-09-02 Thread Eris Discordia
Although, you may be better off reading SICP as intended, and use MIT Scheme on either Windows or a *NIX. The book (and the freaking language) is already hard/unusual enough for one to not want to get confused by implementation quirks. (Kill the paren!) --On Wednesday, September 02, 2009

Re: [9fans] Blocks in C

2009-09-02 Thread Eris Discordia
Perl people love closures. It's one of their common programming techniques. Closures in C? Way to screw its clarity and closeness to the real (or virtual) machine. And in the end closure or no closure doesn't change how the binary looks but allows programmers to pepper source with brain-teasers

Re: [9fans] critique of sockets API

2009-06-11 Thread Eris Discordia
i don't think i understand what you're getting at. it could be that the blog was getting at the fact that select funnels a bunch of independent i/o down to one process. it's an effective technique when (a) threads are not available and (b) processing is very fast. This might help: what he is

Re: [9fans] critique of sockets API

2009-06-11 Thread Eris Discordia
the signal context is the original calling thread. unless ms' diagram is incorrect, this is a single threaded operation; only the i/o originator can process the event. so the plan 9 Of course it is single-threaded operation. That's the very idea behind using callbacks. Originally they were

Re: [9fans] critique of sockets API

2009-06-11 Thread Eris Discordia
but given that plan 9 is about having a system that's easy to understand and modify, i would think that it would be tough to demonstrate that asyncronous i/o or callbacks could make the system (or even applications) simplier. i doubt that they would make the system more efficient, either. do you

Re: [9fans] Adventures of a home user

2009-04-23 Thread Eris Discordia
To whom it may concern: had the right patches for Plan 9 to work on Virtual PC been incorporated and a new ISO released half the complaints from Windows users who want to give Plan 9 a try would disappear. Some potential enterprise users might also get interested in running many Plan 9

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox and Plan9

2009-04-22 Thread Eris Discordia
I have tried to boot a number of Plan 9 4e ISOs on a number of VirtualBox releases (even from before Sun acquired it). Just won't work. It will take someone who knows Plan 9 very well to debug it and find out exactly why it doesn't. A problem with Virtual PC was recently solved, I remember,

Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

2009-04-18 Thread Eris Discordia
This thing about Windows updates, I think it's a non-issue. It's not like updates are mandatory and, as a matter of fact, there's rather fine-grained classification of them on Microsoft's knowledge base which can be used by any more or less experienced user to identify exactly what they need

Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

2009-04-18 Thread Eris Discordia
. --On Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:19 PM -0400 J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: This thing about Windows updates, I think it's a non-issue. It's not like updates are mandatory and, as a matter of fact, there's

Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

2009-04-18 Thread Eris Discordia
...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: That is a lie. There are updates which (at least on XP) you could never refuse. Nevermind the fact that Windows would have to restart more than once on a typical series of updates. Windows isn't

Re: [9fans] security questions

2009-04-17 Thread Eris Discordia
Plan 9 itself makes a great platfrom on which to construct virtualisation. I don't know what Inferno is but the phrase 'virtual machine' appears somewhere in the product description. Isn't Inferno the 'it' you're searching for? --On Friday, April 17, 2009 6:48 AM +0200 lu...@proxima.alt.za

Re: [9fans] security questions

2009-04-17 Thread Eris Discordia
I see. Thanks for the edification :-) I found--still find--it hard to understand what Inferno is/does. Actually read http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/papers/bltj.html but it isn't very direct about what it is that Inferno does for a user or what a user can do with it; what distinguishes it

Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

2009-04-17 Thread Eris Discordia
Gagliardi wrote: On Apr 15, 2009, at 4:26 AM, Eris Discordia wrote: Plan 9 is not intended for home or home office. True, but that doesn't mean it can't be used in such an environment. I type all my reports up in Plan 9. Please set aside rare cases and let us know who except for the students

Re: [9fans] security questions

2009-04-17 Thread Eris Discordia
Very nice of you to go to lengths for describing Inferno to a non-techie. Thank you. Just got the Fourth Edition ISO and will try it. Maybe even learn some Limbo in long term. --On Friday, April 17, 2009 1:55 PM +0200 lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: what it is that Inferno does for a user or

Re: [9fans] VMs, etc. (was: Re: security questions)

2009-04-17 Thread Eris Discordia
even today on an average computer one has this articulation: a CPU (with a FPU perhaps) ; tightly or loosely connected storage (?ATA or SAN) ; graphical capacities (terminal) : GPU. It happens so that a reversal of specialization has really taken place, as Brian Stuart suggests. These

Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

2009-04-15 Thread Eris Discordia
I don't know if it's because of bashfulness or what that people aren't telling it to your face: Plan 9 is not intended for home or home office. It hasn't matured to that point and its age is already past when it had a chance to mature. From what I've read on this list it probably serves as the

Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

2009-04-15 Thread Eris Discordia
answers if something goes wrong. I believe there won't be any need for changing your partition table as long as you don't want QEMU read/write from/to a raw partition. --On Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:05 PM +0800 Jim Habegger jimhabeg...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Eris

Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

2009-04-15 Thread Eris Discordia
If you phrased this slightly more gently, people may in fact agree with you. They'd be agreeing with the wrong formulation, then. But Plan 9 is a great environment to experiment in. Sure. So is every nascent or vestigial system. Anyhow, the thread's originator says he's interested in

Re: [9fans] some measurements in plan 9

2009-04-15 Thread Eris Discordia
OK, they just run for a few seconds, so, any suggestions are welcome (in fact needed) /dev/bintime Wouldn't many rounds of running with different data sets (to minimize cache hits) and timing with time also serve the same purpose? Does time introduce some unavoidable minimum margin of error

Re: [9fans] vgadb woes

2009-04-15 Thread Eris Discordia
Try generating a working modeline for your X.Org and then just put the numbers from modeline into vgadb. xvidtune should help with generating the modeline. A modeline looks like: Modeline mode_name_here 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 -HSync +Vsync Numbers are from left to

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-11 Thread Eris Discordia
. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: It only starts to balloon once you begin customizing bash. Have you customized your bash by aliases as long as tens or hundreds of lines? Now is it bash's fault you have defined

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-09 Thread Eris Discordia
researchers with high ambitions. --On Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:04 PM -0400 J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: The man page *does* say it's too big and slow. So does the bash manpage. And getting readline to do

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-09 Thread Eris Discordia
It only starts to balloon once you begin customizing bash. Have you customized your bash by aliases as long as tens or hundreds of lines? Now is it bash's fault you have defined an alias for something that ought to be a script/program in its own right? --On Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:34 PM

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-09 Thread Eris Discordia
this is the space-shuttle dichotomy. it's a false one. it's a continuum. its ends are dangerous. So somewhere in the middle is the golden mean? I have no objections to that. *BSD systems very well represent a silver, if not a golden, mean--just my idea, of course. it is interesting to me

Re: [9fans] way OT but shocking none the less

2009-04-07 Thread Eris Discordia
Not really. Rackable Systems has for long been one of those things that were there but you never saw. And SGI's end was coming. When did they decommission IRIX? Wasn't it some years ago? I think Rackable Systems is going to focus on SGI's supercomputing background and boost their line with

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread Eris Discordia
Keyboard bindings for example; why couldn't they be handled by a program that just does keyboard bindings + line editing, and writes finalized lines to the shell. Like... readline(3)? SEE ALSO The Gnu Readline Library, Brian Fox and Chet Ramey The Gnu History Library, Brian Fox

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread Eris Discordia
I see. But seriously, readline does handle bindings and line editing for bash. Except it's a function instead of a program and you think it's a bad idea. --On Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:31 PM +0800 sqweek sqw...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/7 Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com: Keyboard

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread Eris Discordia
of bash's normal behavior or the working .inputrc files I've been using for some time. Anyway, thanks for the info. --On Tuesday, April 07, 2009 3:57 PM -0400 J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote: I see

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Routers?

2009-03-25 Thread Eris Discordia
as long as you restrict your network to plan 9 machines, it is possible to import /net from a gateway machine and avoid sticky things like packet filtering. Back to the future yet? May I suggest that the sticky packet filtering, more generally packet manipulation, has crucial applications in

Re: [9fans] Venti by another name

2009-02-16 Thread Eris Discordia
I'll know soon enough as I'm in the process of building a Venti store for our video files. I just wondered if anyone had done it already. That kindles in me the bystander's interest. It'd be nice of you to report back on results. --On Monday, February 16, 2009 12:13 PM + matt

Re: [9fans] Flash Video

2009-02-03 Thread Eris Discordia
Very interesting. Thank you. By the way, Gnash seems to be quite useful. --On Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:22 PM +0100 Christian Walther cptsa...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/3 Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com: I don't know of any open source implementations of Flash Player

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread Eris Discordia
yes, it is *also* hard to mistype on it. Yeah, you have a point there. It's unimaginable to me how someone can type on that keyboard, but it seems some people do and do well. My question's target was whether it's because of a motor disability that matt uses a Maltron or out of personal

Re: [9fans] Les Mis?rables

2009-01-19 Thread Eris Discordia
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erreplicate. Bye, bye, cute acute. --On Monday, January 19, 2009 6:53 AM + jimmy brisson theotherji...@gmail.com wrote: Although there is already an ircfs for Inferno, since I don't want to run Inferno outside

Re: [9fans] Les Misérables

2009-01-17 Thread Eris Discordia
So it did on Windows + Mulberry. I know, I know, I'll shut up. --On Friday, January 16, 2009 8:17 PM -0500 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Fri Jan 16 20:16:55 EST 2009, aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net wrote: the subject header in the last message came out to be very ugly due to

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-09 Thread Eris Discordia
What'd you say if you had my keyboard? It's got a couple of (useful) Windows keys, a numeric pad, and some multimedia keys. Can't complain, to each their lot ;-) And for the oldies fun: last week I had to replace an AT type PSU and get the right wires (white, black, brown, blue) connected to

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-08 Thread Eris Discordia
[...] Last thing I did before I packed it in was take the superimposed picture and look at it through a green filter. You remember I was always superstitious about the color green when I was a kid? I always wanted to be a pilot on one of the trading scouts? I love green and I admire

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-27 Thread Eris Discordia
I'm baffled. Slap me, or kick me--your choice. --On Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:36 AM +0100 tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 06:04:42AM +, Eris Discordia wrote: it all begins with Adam and Steve, as Brian Stuart suggests, ways have been found of managing large teams

[9fans] (off-topic) Renée French

2008-12-26 Thread Eris Discordia
How come the Renée French who appears in Jim Jarmusch's Coffee and Cigarettes has nothing to with the Renée French who drew Glenda? How probable is for two people of artistic inclination to have the exact same name? Or is Glenda's creator hiding her identity as part of Plan 9 for World

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-26 Thread Eris Discordia
The Story of Mel [...] I compared Mel's hand-optimized programs with the same code massaged by the optimizing assembler program, and Mel's always ran faster. That was because the top-down method of program design hadn't been invented yet, and Mel wouldn't have used it anyway. He wrote the

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-26 Thread Eris Discordia
building a pyramid, starting at the top is one of those things that just doesn't scale. For that, you have bottom-up, right? But there's no meet-in-the-middle for a pyramid, or for software. Unless, the big picture is small enough to fit in one man's head and let him context-switch back and

Re: [9fans] Very Off-Topic: Anybody here reads Sci-Fi? :)

2008-12-03 Thread Eris Discordia
At last, something I can claim expertise in--you actually see the sci-fi expertise showing on my feeble attempts at technicality ;-) You should definitely try anything by Stanislaw Lem. Reading him in the original Polish would be awesome but somewhat far-fetched. Then there are the German

Re: [9fans] Very Off-Topic: Anybody here reads Sci-Fi? :)

2008-12-03 Thread Eris Discordia
03, 2008 12:54 PM +0100 Uriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At last, something I can claim expertise in--you actually see the sci-fi expertise showing on my feeble attempts at technicality ;-) [...] Then there's Philip K

Re: [9fans] Very Off-Topic: Anybody here reads Sci-Fi? :)

2008-12-03 Thread Eris Discordia
I've read that it talks about what would have happened if Allende had succeded implementing Cybersyn... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn] I am looking for reading this book. That is the most interesting thing I've come by in months. Shame on Augusto Pinochet, unaugust scoundrel,

Re: [9fans] Very Off-Topic: Anybody here reads Sci-Fi? :)

2008-12-03 Thread Eris Discordia
PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are the Great Three, of course. Isaac Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke, and Robert A. Heinlein. Anything they wrote is worth a read. Sometimes a number of reads. Clarke particularly interests me. Try the short

Re: [9fans] xml2 and APE

2008-11-25 Thread Eris Discordia
Again, just say *no* to xml, even the web 2.0 fools have given it up. I agree. Web 2.0 is for fools. I don't agree. Say yes to XML because you have to say yes to some markup language anyway. Why not give the yes to an eXtensible one with a zillion applications already, from TEI to DocBook to

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-21 Thread Eris Discordia
wrong. binary would be the opposite of text. Now I'm becoming convinced you are trying to infuriate me. That 9P is actually binary is a _fact_, which you presented to me, thank you, okay? But, the _idea_, which existed in the posting you had quoted, remained and remains the same

Re: [9fans] Gmail and upas

2008-11-21 Thread Eris Discordia
seems you use IMAP to read gmail. I usually read my gmail mail through my web browser, which is not a problem from opera/firefox in linux. However, I can't do the same from plan9. Neither abaco, nor charon work. Is this so for everyone or just for me? Thanks. GMail's normal web interface is a

Re: [9fans] Gmail and upas

2008-11-21 Thread Eris Discordia
does humans work well with that software? I do, but I doubt I qualify as human--from your point of view. --On Friday, November 21, 2008 5:52 PM -0200 Iruata Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FUN FACT: GMail works well

Re: [9fans] Gmail and upas

2008-11-21 Thread Eris Discordia
, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps: I love science Yeah, and that must be UV. P.S. I know I shouldn't be replying and further staining my already messed up reputation here. --On Friday, November 21, 2008 6:16 PM -0200 Iruata Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:57

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