To clarify, Nix development will be continuing at both
nix-...@googlegroups.com and http://code.google.com/p/nix-os as well.
The project has forked.
Noah
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote:
Just to say that we moved the development mailing list.
technical ones.
Noah
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote:
Noah Evans wrote:
To clarify, Nix development will be continuing at both
nix-...@googlegroups.com and http://code.google.com/p/nix-os as well.
The project has forked.
I don't understand what is going
Erik, are you looking at the tip? IIRC the webpage points to a stable
version not the tip.
Noah
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:36 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
On Tue Dec 13 07:43:08 EST 2011, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
New features in Go require a new function in the reflect.c
From PJ Plauger when asked about Ratfor:
Q: What's Ratfor?
PJ: To eat cheese.
Noah
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:
ratfor++ to the rescue!
On 2 December 2011 17:39, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
A guy I know at LANL just mandated C++ for
nix-...@googlegroups.com
Noah
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 9:41 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
hey noah, what's the mailing list?
- erik
mkdir /amd64/bin/auth
touch /amd64/bin/auth/.shutuphg
will let you build factotum and friends.
Then from your normal shell and your nix directory(I assume you have
your .hg/hgrc ready for codereview, if not look at /PROCESS):
hg change
fill in change request
hg mail number that you got from hg
don't forget to hg add amd64/bin/auth/.shutuphg
Noah
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com wrote:
mkdir /amd64/bin/auth
touch /amd64/bin/auth/.shutuphg
will let you build factotum and friends.
Then from your normal shell and your nix directory(I assume you have
No. Compile an npxeload from /sys/src/nix/w/pxeload. That should work.
If it doesn't file an issue.
Noah
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:27 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
does 9load do enough to boot the nix 64-bit kernel?
- erik
Not yet, if you're willing to be a test subject head over to nix-dev
and we can work through the steps for you and add a document
explaining the process.
Noah
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Christian Neukirchen
chneukirc...@gmail.com wrote:
quans...@quanstro.net (erik quanstrom) writes:
Submit these changes as code reviews. See /PROCESS if anything is unclear about
how to do that.
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:19 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
well, after a bit of a time resembling /sys/src/cmd/aux/vga/adventure
i currently have my atom box
What I find really curious about the mouse vs keyboard argument is
that so few people are willing to test and quantify it. I ran into an
HCI researcher a while back and posed the mouse/keyboard question to
him and he just said Fitts's law(ie. that the mouse requires more
movement and therefore it
No way am I looking that up at work. :o
Noah
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:
ha ha. i accidentally got some stuff from the attached site (for some
reason it's physically impossible to copy and paste the name). the
manual is available in japanese
I've seen this behavior before, once using 9vx on a remote xsession
and once when using strace on a (broken) 9vx that was compiled for
32bit on a 64bit linux. Are there any mitigating factors that could be
causing your problem?
Noah
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Mathieu Lonjaret
, it is a 64 bits linux and I haven't done anything special or
set any flag when building (cd src; make; make install). Should I?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com wrote:
I've seen this behavior before, once using 9vx on a remote xsession
and once when using strace
Don't discount language barriers.
Noah
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Lucio De Re lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 08:31:09AM -0500, Jacob Todd wrote:
What's your point?
Trolling?
++L
Plan 9 is a research operating system. It also happens that many
people who use it for research also use it in production.
Many of the engineering decisions that went into Plan 9 were a matter
of priorities. The creators of Plan 9 chose a simple, comprehensible C
compiler over more complex
programs
don't receive any arguments - the argv
list is empty for both. Any ideas why
this could be?
Thanks,
ak
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com wrote:
You need filters and the filters need to be set up by default in
rcmain. Anthony is on top of things as usual
Can list members treat each other with greater civility? The list has
been quite nice lately.
Noah
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Venkatesh Srinivas
m...@endeavour.zapto.org wrote:
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Lawrence E. Bakst m...@iridescent.org
wrote:
At 4:31 PM -0500 1/28/11,
You need filters and the filters need to be set up by default in
rcmain. Anthony is on top of things as usual :) It would be nice to
have other users and if you are interested in exercising it ping me
offlist.
Noah
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Akshat Kumar
aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net
You can keep srv() from eating Tattach's and Tauth's without numeric
userids with the following:
--- a/src/cmd/9pserve.c Wed Nov 03 15:49:22 2010 -0400
+++ b/src/cmd/9pserve.c Thu Nov 11 19:27:02 2010 -0800
@@ -440,6 +440,8 @@
m-tx.uname = getuser();/* what
Are you using the tip of plan9ports?
Noah
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:34 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
You can keep srv() from eating Tattach's and Tauth's without numeric
userids with the following:
this patch + factotum + drawterm yields this for me
on starting drawterm:
Nope, you're right. I got your behavior. There's a race.
Noah
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:34 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
You can keep srv() from eating Tattach's and Tauth's without numeric
userids with the following:
this patch + factotum + drawterm yields this for me
I don't. I say go for it.
Noah
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote:
Does anyone use 9P2000.u anymore?
Can we just remove it from the p9p tree?
Russ
FWIW chrome seems to have major issues with livestream but safari
behaves a bit better.
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:
On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
Check http://www.livestream.com/iwp9 during the workshop. I'll post
an
Doing shell debugging I wrote a fork tracer that would setproc() the
return value of every fork call if non-zero. That worked fine if only
the parent did the forking but it was a pain if different processes
forked at different times it was even more useless when the forked
process immediately
I had the same problem and came to the same (kludgey) solution. The
ethervgbe driver is still a bit of a work in progress. Other ethernet
drivers use the same trick, a pool of Blocks that are never freed, but
they use _xincref inside the driver proper to make sure etheriq(...,
1) doesn't cause a
This kind of problem is character processing, which I would argue is
C's domain. You can massage awk and sed to do the job for you, but at
least for me it's conceptually simpler to just bang out the following
C program:
#include u.h
#include libc.h
#include bio.h
#define isupper(r) (L'A' =
http://ramp.eecs.berkeley.edu/
Tim: Andrew Baumann is aware of Plan 9 but their approach is quite a
bit different. They are consciously avoiding the networking issue as
well(they've been asked to extend their messaging model to the network
and have actively said they're not interested).
On Wed,
Have you read the paper? I don't think you understand the difference
in scope or goals here.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:45 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com wrote:
http://ramp.eecs.berkeley.edu/
Tim: Andrew Baumann is aware of Plan 9 but their approach is quite a
bit different. They are
Do want.
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 14, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Noah Evans wrote:
http://ramp.eecs.berkeley.edu/
Tim: Andrew Baumann is aware of Plan 9 but their approach is quite a
bit different. They are consciously avoiding
Since you're doing character processing rather than record processing,
isn't C your best tool for the job here?
This is what I whipped out YMMV:
#include u.h
#include libc.h
#include bio.h
char *str;
int ntok;
#define WHITESPACE(c) ((c) == ' ' || (c) == '\t' || (c) == '\n')
void
We don't have any travel budget now does coraid have any sponsors
willing to fund travel?
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:06 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net
wrote:
the deadline for submitting papers has
been extended to 20090907.
- erik
Can you get a native kernel working with qemu or parallels?the latest
osx versions crash on inferno for me.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:02 PM, Brian L. Stuart
blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Did you use the plan 9 kencc to build
that inferno kernel? As I
understand, inferno's
One way of phrasing it:
I usually need 9fat to choose which kernel I'm going to use depending
on the circumstances, is there anyway that I could reincorporate 9fat
or something like it? What do I need to do to make it possible?
another way:
You losers never do anything right, where's my 9fat?
Hey Devon,
1. Others know more about that than I do. Wait a bit, that problem
might get solved.
2. drawterm tends to hang on secstore for me. Try a bogus -s option or
use a p9p secstore/factotum and see what happens.
3. what's stopping you from setting up your external network as the
one on
Which machine is this on? I don't quite understand what you're saying.
Aren't the contrib packages you're talking about something outside the
main distribution?
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:02 AM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote:
Upon trying to build /sys/src/cmd for the arm today
Aaaah. now I get it. I found it in fgb's tree. Has any announcing
config(1) on the list?
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Noah Evansnoah.ev...@gmail.com wrote:
Which machine is this on? I don't quite understand what you're saying.
Aren't the contrib packages you're talking about something
For Lisp variants ask Alex Shinn(alexsh...@gmail.com), he's got an
interesting scheme implementation mostly working. It's a summer of
code project this year.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Daniel Lyonsfus...@storytotell.org wrote:
On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
So, I was
Are you sure you're not running two usbds? Can send a listing of your
process table?
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Bela Valekbval...@gmail.com wrote:
I managed to reproduce the error in Bochs, the only thing I did was
turning on the USB support in the emulator (usb_uhci: enabled=1).
usbd
glenda 8 0:00 0:00 356K Rendez usbd
Its a default install, nothing was modified.
2009/8/13 Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com:
Are you sure you're not running two usbds? Can send a listing of your
process table?
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Bela Valekbval
Greetings: Béla
2009/8/13 Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com:
Okay, could you run:
echo 'stacks()' | acid -l thread pid
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Bela Valekbval...@gmail.com wrote:
Logged in with 'none':
none 91 0:00 0:00 356K Sleep usbd
none 92 0
Can you reboot the machine and then pastebin the full transcript of
what happens from boot to your usbd error? AFAIK you shouldn't have
two instances of usbd running.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Bela Valekbval...@gmail.com wrote:
Its a default install, i didnt modify it.
2009/8/13 erik
in /rc/bin/usbstart
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Bela Valekbval...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/8/13 Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com:
Can you reboot the machine and then pastebin the full transcript of
what happens from boot to your usbd error? AFAIK you shouldn't have
two instances of usbd running
Where are you getting the string? Are you malloc'ing it yourself?
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:20 PM, roger pepperogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
just to check i'm not missing something, is there a reasonable
way of getting bio(2) to read from a string rather than an fd?
i can think of various ways,
Do you know the 2-1 chord? Try putting an Edit in the tag, then
leaving the Edit commands in your guide.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Aaron W. Hsuarcf...@sacrideo.us wrote:
Hello,
When using guide files, let's say I have some Edit command or the like that
I run often on certain types of
man 4 disk # disk(4)
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bela Valekbval...@gmail.com wrote:
I have checked it on 3 different installations, the 'usbdisk' manpage
is missing, on fresh installations too. Its not a filesystem
corruption for sure. Most other USB-related manpages still list the
Try it.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Iruata Souzairu.mu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Noah Evansnoah.ev...@gmail.com wrote:
man 4 disk # disk(4)
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bela Valekbval...@gmail.com wrote:
I have checked it on 3 different installations, the
Relax.
koninck% history /sys/man/4/usb
May 31 03:40:48 CES 2009 /sys/man/4/usb 6969 [geoff]
...
koninck% man 4 disk
USB(4) USB(4)
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Iruata Souzairu.mu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:59
Aaron's problem is not dumping per se, it's saving his indentation and
other command line state between sessions. Unless there's something I
missed, you can only enable functions like auto-indent via the command
line(-a) or via Indent on in acme. The dump doesn't preserve indent
state so yes,
What other stuff are you thinking of?
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:02 PM, roger pepperogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/8/7 Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com:
The dump doesn't preserve indent state
personally, i think it should.
and some other stuff as well.
of this should be fairly straightforward,
i've just not made space in my life to do it yet.
and i doubt it would be accepted as a patch anyway.
2009/8/7 Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com:
What other stuff are you thinking of?
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:02 PM, roger pepperogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/8
I think you want to set your editor to the E program discussed on the
list earlier, this will plumb your mails to whatever is listening on
the plumb edit port.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM, plus 852plus...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it possible to use sam as an external editor for the mail programs
/mnt/term/dev/hostdomain?
AFAIK it's always drawterm.net.
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:31 PM, roger pepperogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
i'm probably being stupid here, but what's a good robust way
of detecting in $home/lib/profile that the remote connection
is from drawterm, so that i can start rio
http://9fans.net/archive/2008/05/6
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Jason Catenajason.cat...@gmail.com wrote:
Devon's anecdote is along the lines of my position. I'm sure there's
a paper somewhere that counts parenthesis versus whitespace errors,
but I haven't yet read it. I have programmed
There's nothing wrong with being new. There's nothing wrong with
being polite either.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:52 PM, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote:
At least once a month it happens. We can't escape. We're forever
doomed to get a Can I use Plan 9 as my desktop OS
It's not how you say something, it's what you say.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:24 PM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote:
On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:46, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote:
I think Tog's conclusions (the single set of studies put forth
whenever this thing
comes up) are poorly made
Here's a good starting point if nobody has done anything already:
http://9fans.net/archive/2000/08/260
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Shaowei Wang (wsw)wsw1w...@gmail.com wrote:
What do you mean support chinese ? display chinese chars or input chinese
chars?
If you set the right font rio
http://code.google.com/hosting/createProject
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:06 PM, C H Forsyth fors...@vitanuova.com wrote:
Knowing *who* made the change is often even more useful than the change
comment.
yes. i use ls -lm on our
To clarify Rob's point, the phrase moral equivalence comes with some
pretty hefty baggage. In modern usage it's primarily a right wing
term, used to derogatorily refer to leftist arguments. Morally
equivalent arguments typically assert that pro-western groups have
selfish(typically economic)
We just need some rounded edges.
http://www.creativeandlive.com/article_images//1073/siggi.jpg
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:40 AM, andrey mirtchovski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i don't want to hear anyone complain about the plan9 gui anymore, lest
they be cast into the world of LoseThos:
I'm missing something really obvious. I want to export part of my
local namespace to do this I run:
aux/listen1 -tv tcp!*!1979 exportfs -S /srv/npesurv
listen started
incoming call for tcp!*!1979 from 66.112.249.148 in /net/tcp/40
when I try to mount I get:
term% 9fs tcp! myserver!1979
post...
When I'm using p9p acme under OSX and I have a compile/svn commit
etc... running in a win window and if I click on other windows a few
times acme will freeze. Has any one else noticed this behavior?
Noah
similar.
I don't think it's crashing acme outright, it's just borking the draw
code event loop somehow.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Russ Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Noah Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I'm using p9p acme under OSX and I have a compile
http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lack_of_aesthetical_refinement
Bruce Ellis and Noah Evans, please populate the above
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Little troll, thy baiting f'r fray--
My thoughtless passage has flushed away
Am not _I_ a troll like thee,
Or art not _thou_ a Goddess like me?
Practice your
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know one thing: every major operating system I have ever heard of
leverages shared libraries. Can all those people be wrong? I don't think so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
Be careful what you wish for ;)
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Brian L. Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just booted Plan 9 on a 1024+16 node BG/P this week. .
I'll echo the congratulations.
Plan is to double it just a few times until we hit 65536 or so. Then
the fun begins: turning on all
Nope not yet, but now that people are trickling in should we schedule
a get together on the night of the 29th for everybody coming in?
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:11 AM, sqweek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi from Volos!
Is anyone else here already?
-sqweek
That's my fault. I'll have an updated version by IWP9, I'm still
ironing out a few kinks.
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Taj Khattra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the formatting of the 'mrph' paper by noah evans seems buggered in a
bunch of places (e.g. sentences starting and ending in midstream)
What kind of deal did you guys get at Park hotel? I settled on a
double twin at the Phillipos for 75 euros.
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Jeff Sickel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Go directly to http://www.amhotels.gr/index_ENG.htm. It's a flash site that
can through browsers off, but there is
I think a few folks are going to try to catch an evening bus out of
Athens on the night of the 29th. IIRC there are buses at 6 8 and 10pm
if anyone would like to coordinate.
http://www.uva-aias.net/files/lower/Transport%20to%20Volos1.pdf
Noah
2008/10/9 hiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The timetables
The fixes work very well. Thank you.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Russ Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Russ Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have tracked this down along with another OS X display problem.
I will push out the fix later today.
This fix and the
Is anybody taking an early flight out of Athens on the morning of
11/2? If so, would you be interested in splitting a hotel at athens
airport(160 euros for two single beds) for the night of the 1st?
Noah
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