[9fans] Plan 9 article in hacker magazine!

[Roswell Grey]

2600 is a hacker's quarterly magazine that specializes in sharing subtle
tips and tricks related to computer hacking. Volume 33, issue 1, however,
featured something that was pleasent to read: an article on Plan 9. It
describes what it is, how it came to be, how it differs from other OS's,
and how to get it. It's a basic introduction to 9 that most of us already
know about, but nonetheless I wanted to share it with you all to show that
there's still a very strong interest in the OS. And with this article,
perhaps it'll gain a little more! Thanks for reading. Definitely pick up a
copy of 2600 if you have the chance!

[9fans] Limbo manual

[Roswell Grey]

Hello,

it seems that the online documentation for learning limbo is rather
outdated. Does anyone know where I could get a more updated version to
learn limbo coding? Thanks!

-R

Re: [9fans] Issues with USB mouse in 9atom

[Roswell Grey]

Yeah, I installed from the CD. But that image is for amd64, correct? a 64
bit processor? My junk computer is an old gateway, with a celeron D, a
whopping 256 MB of ram, and a full 100 GB hard disk space. But since this
is 32 bit to my knowledge, would a possible solution involve making a
bootable flash disk from this distribution within my installation?

>
>
> i don't see any confirmation, but it looks like the install was from the
> cd image?
> if so, i recommend using the usb install image instead
>
> http://ftp.9atom.org/other/usbinstamd64.bz2
>
> this *should* fix all those issues.  posting a few details on the
> processor might
> be helpful in figuring out any issues.
>
> - erik
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:21:30 +0200
> From: cinap_len...@felloff.net
> To: 9fans@9fans.net
> Subject: Re: [9fans] Issues with USB mouse in 9atom
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> your mp tables are fucked, boot with "*acpi=" boot parameter. see the
> fqa how to get to the > prompt to enter it.
>
> --
> cinap
>
>
>
> End of 9fans Digest, Vol 137, Issue 21
> **
>

[9fans] Basic limbo programming help

[Roswell Grey]

Hello fellow 9fans! I'm currently trying to learn limbo programming for fun
and profit. I'm experienced in java and other languages, but I'd like to
learn limbo because I want to (wait for it, drumroll please!) build a
distributed agent-based system. The agents themselves aren't anything
complicated; I've already written a prototype in java. However, limbo
offers a vastly superior communications system than java (and windows for
that matter), so I believe inferno is going to be a great choice in the
desired platform. However, first thing's first, is learning the language.
So, I'm reading A descent into Limbo. And the first program example runs
fine. However, the second, the graphical hello world, does not. I'm having
a problem with the line:

t := tk-toplevel(ctxt.screen );

The compiler is telling me that screen isn't a reference of ctxt, and it
expected display instead. But if I change the reference from context to
display, well... It will compile and run, but I don't get a button. The
example pictures show a different inferno button than what is in the
current version, so maybe it's an outdated example? Or is ctxt really the
author telling me don't copy and paste, think about what goes here!
Because I'm finding those hinted in other example codes as well. So, if
there are any limbo programmers out there, would you mind giving me a hand?
Thanks!

[9fans] Chrome and 9

[Roswell Grey]

It's no question that the Chromebook makes a wonderful candidate to
integrate features of 9 into. The thing was practically BUILT for
distributed computing, what with app servers and cloud integration tightly
integrated into the hardware. What I was thinking was creating a chrome
extension for 9P and the distributed file system, so that there'd be an
easy way to connect 9 machines and maybe even create a chrome 9 grid for
super processing. What would be your opinion on doing such a thing?
Practical? Waste of time? Wanna help?

[9fans] Easiest programming for graphics in 9?

[Roswell Grey]

Even though 9 doesn't have OpenGL, what is the easiest way to code (as far
as coding amount is concerned) graphics in 9? On a side note, how awesome
would it be to put openGL on 9, and run a distributed system for
supergaming?! 9 is just that awesome. Haha.
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 Today's Topics:

1. Re: glendix (kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp)
2. Re: glendix (arn...@skeeve.com)
3. Re: Change font in Abaco (Mats Olsson)


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 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:37:02 +0900
 From: kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp
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  http://www.glendix.org/

 Please show me short summary of differences
 between p9p and this.
 The major aim seems to  be the same to me,
 that is, to avoid to write device drivers.

 Kenji




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 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:26:32 -0700
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 kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:

   http://www.glendix.org/
 
  Please show me short summary of differences
  between p9p and this.
  The major aim seems to  be the same to me,
  that is, to avoid to write device drivers.
 
  Kenji
 

 Glendix isn't maintained; I looked at the git and the last check-in
 was over 5 years ago.  It's aim is to run Plan 9 binaries, which means
 putting P9 system calls into the Linux kernel.

 p9p is a port of the P9 utilities to *nix; userland only.

 HTH,

 Arnold



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 Message: 3
 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:39:44 +0100
 From: Mats Olsson plan9@gmail.com
 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
 Subject: Re: [9fans] Change font in Abaco
 Message-ID:
 
 caej9f0+a4v4xpvmkueiv8tv5+tdrunxnongv_tjtov82xz+...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Hi sl!

 Thanks for your answer regarding fonts in Abaco. I tried with the
 fonts already installed and that works with some. Then I installed
 contrib and via contrib vera but Abaco can't find them. I've looked
 around and saw a mention of fontsrv. Is that application needed to
 update a fontcache (you can tell I'm a linux user) or something to get
 all the fonts available? Vera fonts work from scratch in Rio and Acme
 but not in Abaco. Any hint would be very appreciated.

 Kind Regards,
 Mats

 2014-11-09 3:18 GMT+01:00, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
  the face files, version of abaco supporting them, and the
  version of readweb that has been modified to support this
 
  are in 9atom.
 
  - erik
 
 



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Re: [9fans] hub issues on 9Pi

[Roswell Grey]

Applying a patch sounds like fun! Could you shoot me an email on how to do
it? Thank ya!

[9fans] USB hub issues on 9Pi

[Roswell Grey]

What are the known issues using hubs on 9Pi? I've tried using two different
hubs to connect my keyboard, mouse, and flash drives, but they don't work.
The optical mouse doesn't even have its laser turned on by the time booting
is finished. The only solution I've found is attaching the devices
directly, which I hate because I can't use my USB stick... Interesting to
note that I/O errors are reported on the boot console using one hub, while
nothing is reported with the other. Where do you think the problem resides
in, and is there any hope of any sort of fix, perhaps an experimental
driver modification? I'm not afraid to roll up my sleeves and code. This is
a programmer's os after all :D any help or advice is certainly appreciated.

Re: [9fans] hub issues on 9Pi

[Roswell Grey]

Unfortunately, I don't have the right wall-wart that would fit the powered
USB hub - this is the one that gives I/O problems. But on the self powered
hub, 9 doesn't even seem to recognize anything. No keyboard or mouse
lights, no console message saying it found those devices... But like I
said, they work fine when plugged in directly.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on an NCube 3

[Roswell Grey]

That startkit looks fun! But, like, 256K flash is a little... Limiting. But
hey, styx on a brick only needed 32K. Maybe a teensy emu could run on there
with an external memory source. You're right, it totally screams 9! Oh,
that gives me an idea... A portable cluster. At 500 MIPS a pop, I bet an
interesting system could come about... Or a weird little distributed
system. Or a coprocessor for the 9-running pi Who knows? But it looks fun :D

[9fans] Plan 9 on an Ncube-3?

[Roswell Grey]

Hello! I was doing some reading about old parallel computers, when I came
across Wikipedia's article on this beast:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCUBE

In short, it used hundreds of specially-designed microprocessors to do some
awesome parallel tasks. This just screams 9, right? Well, apparently, the
NCUBE-3 was supposed to run a microkernel called Transit which was said
to be based on 9. Isn't that awesome? Someone had the right idea! Now I
know 9 ran on blue gene too, but for nostalgic software interest, would
anyone have more information on transit? I think it'd be really cool to see
how they did it with the ncube hardware (hippi networks, custom processors,
custom intranetworks right down to the board) I am aware that it might be
proprietary and closed source, let alone difficult to obtain the source if
it even exists anywhere, but there's got to be documentation floating
around out there... Thanks guys!

Re: [9fans] Added new user

[Roswell Grey]

The thing is, I don't even get a Root is from prompt. The console doesn't
prompt for anything. The last line it displays is something with /init/rc
...no prompt.

[9fans] Rpi rca out?

[Roswell Grey]

Is it possible to use the rca out on the pi as my display? Thanks!